So Naruto's ending in 2014.

I dropped it after Sasuke left. Something told me that the show was gonna go to utter **** after that.

 

It did. And then it didn't. And then it did again.

I'm talking about the manga, of course. I have no knowledge about the anime after Sasuke left.

 

The manga has the most horrible drawing in the entire history of art. It's like a really failed experiment of putting together Sergio Aragonés's way of drawing with everything manga has to offer.

I admit Naruto has gone way WAY too far and it rarely shows anymore glimpses of what it used to be, but it is going be a sad day when i read the final chapter.

 

Get a load of this guy.

 

Exaggeration, i know. But still bad drawing is bad.

 

I remember Naruto. Started not to watch anime after it. Not because of it, I reckon, just a coincidence.

 

Let me level with you. He's not actually bad. A third grader who CAN'T draw a circle is bad. A thirty year old who DECIDES not to draw a circle is a little more arguable. It comes down to why is he not drawing a circle and why he should or shouldn't. In the case of Oda, everything he does is intentionally that way and people often like it for being that way. Oda's art is pared down and simple, that's undeniable. But that suits the writing because the whole of One Piece is pared down and simple. It makes sense and fits well given that he draws and inks 18-30 pages in less than seven days. Yeah, that's how long it takes him to do these things. One Piece is pared down and simple because it has a very specific goal. The goal is purely to be entertaining to a group of people from the age of 10 to 20 roughly. If you try to find a true message or lesson to One Piece beyond the occasional afterschool special thing you'll come up completely empty. It's not artsy and it's not a thinking piece. It's just supposed to be fun. The simple cartoony style fits. So it fits his schedule, his audience and his series. That's three things he's doing correctly. So what's he doing wrong? Actually, nothing. That's what.

So what you're, wrongfully, saying is that this is bad. What you should mean is that you don't like it. You hate it, actually. And that's fine. You should feel however you want to about these things. But to try to give objective quality to your opinion that has no basis in any sort of fact no matter what contortions you make, as you have done here, is stupid.

I could seriously go on to describe why many of the things you like are objectively worse than One Piece, but I don't think you need that to understand that how much you, as an individual, like something and how good it is are, by their nature, completely unrelated.

 

First things first. Dude what?

Let me disagree with you. My main argument for his really bad style of drawing comes from the fact that i've seen some really bad frames in the course of the manga and some very disproportionate characters. There have been certain frames in the course of the past year in which the faces of the characters when in 3/4 face view look awfull. Also in many of the chaotic scenes you can barely understand what is going on, something which is also very common in Naruto. By your logic we can only judge people by whether or not they can draw or not a circle and Oda's art is simple because the writing is simple? Seriously? Do we even read the same series? Techincally you imply simple writing equalls simple drawing style while complex writing equalls more advanced drawing skills. I can't even begin to describe how wrong this whole theory is. Just compare different shonen series like One Piece to Tegami Bachi or One Piece to D. Gray - Man.

Can you just please stop with the attitude? I am well aware of the timeframe a writer/mangaka works i have no need of you telling me. You could argue that he is a bit sloppy because he has to work on limited time which is understandable, both Naruto and One Piece would have been better if they were published on a monthly basis since there would be more time (although even that is still relevant since a bigger time frame would equall more pages).

So when you entertain someone you can't deliver something with quality and you're allowed to be sloppy. Then why series like D. Gray - Man, Tegami Bach or even western weekly releases from Disney stories to your average super hero comic which still according to you exist for your enjoynment (not for one's way of telling a story and being creative, expressing his ideas as you claim on the folowing part of your post) go through the extense of dellivering quality art?

Oh wow you degrade what you defend. Good for you. Let me break it down to you. Every story in whatever form be it, comic, book, movie, regardless if it belongs or not in the avant garde or high art or cheap main stream pop art as most of manga are, have a a message either deep or not and so it is with One Piece. Whether One Piece, Scrooge McDuck, Andy Warholl, Jackson Pollock (who by the way DIDN'T draw any circles!) will make one think or not and pass a message it is entirely upon the perceptual capabilities that person which derive from his/her experiences, memories, feelings, life.

Your personal opinion, totally understandable. I am not saying the story is bad (though the concept of good pirates still is awkward), just the drawing is not of decent quality.

You know this were you completely lost me because that last part of your post made me completely furious. It is bad because it is bad. Yes, i admit i am not the biggest fan of his style but as far as i recall i didn't went to the extremes of saying i hate it, so i would be thankfull if you werer kind enough and stop putting words into my mouth! I am very well aware of the distinction of personal opinion and criticism. Second, i like the series, i like Naruto and yet i have the mind to criticise what is wrong with those series i like. Please learn manners! I didn't call you stupid or degrade your opinion and how the mother flipping universe you know what i like and of what quality are things i like and who the hell you think you are to judge them?! Consider your post reported and i would higly appreciate it if a moderator takes action. I won't tolerate anyone degrading me because i expressed an opinion.

 

You're still wrong.

 

I lasted until the Naruto and Pain fight, even that was a struggle. The show is one of those, sounds kinda cool when someone tells you about a scene or something but in practise I just find prolonged exposure to it incredibly dull.

 

Your arguments are so impressive. Believe what you want.

 

idk man "You're still wrong" is a strong argument. I'm pretty convinced.

 

Funniest quote I've seen in a while, thanks for the laugh. XD

 

The manga has a defined style that you either like or you don't.
Do you say Monet is bad because he's not doing baroque works? No. He's different, not bad. He's good at what he does and either it's to your taste or it's not.
What Jiku said is true, not offensive.

 

Taste is taste i am well aware thank you. Certain painters/artists have some works which are considered better than others you know. Just because you are Monet or Picasso, both with very personal and different styles, it doesn't mean that you are free of critisism. What i am talking about is technical stuff.

When someone calls your opinion stupid it is offensive. He could as well prove his point without any derogatory remarks.