Implemented Skype Group [UNOFFICIAL]

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Is this something that could at least be given a chance to see how it works out? It may surprise you and things may turn out really well. But you won't know unless you try.

And if you have alternative solutions, please share them.

 

I like the idEA. I also have skype

 

In any way did I say that this should not be allowed? No, staff have said that you can go make a chat about this. I'm hoping things work out well, but most of the time I get disappointed. If you can convince me that it will turn out well, then that's good for me.

 

Again, this. No one is going to simply let it go because we're in a different place, and people aren't gonna be different just because it's not KHV. Ask anyone, I'm relatively the same on here and on Skype. People's disgreements will still be there, regardless of wether it's MSN, Skype, or Voxli.

 

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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it's about anyone not liking the idea. People are just saying that this wouldn't be an official "hey this is sponsored by khv staff are in charge of this mofo" thing.

tl;dr: Pretty much you can start this whenever you please xD

 

It doesn't work. Never will.

I was in Voxli, and even that led to problems. Fresh starts don't happen. You can pretend they are fresh starts, but the people are, as Sabby said, subjectively judging others.

And to be frank, I don't see a rift between the members and staff. I see a rift between certain members and staff.

Things are getting out of hand because people are too fucking childish to realize you won't like everything about everything. Sure, there may be some issues on the site, but I'm sure as hell not going to wail on any other members or staff to get it the exact way I want.

I know people on the site don't like me, but I don't give two craps about it, because I simply consider it their problem. I try to avoid being rude towards these members, but of course, I fail sometimes. Thing is, I don't continually keep up a constant bickering, because I finished that in elementary school.

So. Yeah.
Skype groups are fine, but I wouldn't expect anything to be mended, nor would I expect a new start of any sorts.

 

I think it would be cool to have a skype call of people from KHV, but I don't think this needed to be a suggestion, rather than just posting a thread in the spam zone asking if people wanted to join it.

Though, like, I don't know. This might be really wrong and it's just what I've noticed, but it seems as if you guys have already made a skype group, or at least a group in general (has been stated before), and some might not be as welcoming to have certain others join in the skype call, despite wanting to get to know everyone here. Some people can get annoying, and whatever happens outside of KHV can't really be looked into by staff, so disagreements could go down that are allowed to happen and no one can really do anything about it.

 

And what if something happens that a member could be targeted? am I allowed to intervene as a person to stop it? Or am I going to be looked at as staff trying to handle the situation.

 

Just wanted to quote this because of how true it. Most people don't hate staff, or even have anything against them. I know a lot of people whose's best friends are staff. And some of my better friends are staff as well. There's really only a small, but loud, group that seem to be causing a rift between themselves and staff and they seem to think that if something applies to them, it must apply to everyone.

 

Exactly what Christhor and Noroz said.
We've had "unofficial" KHV chatrooms such as large MSN groups, Voxli, tinychat, etc. Usually things end up heated or it passes like any other fad.
KHV can't have an official chatroom because staff would be required to moderate it. Your little group is the one that suggested staff always be approachable when they're needed, a KHV chatroom is no special case.
Also, like every other post here is saying: You don't need to make a suggestion thread. You don't need staff's approval to make a skype group chat (since it is KHV-unaffiliated). Make a thread in the SPam Zone inviting people, but that's really all you need.

And if you want a chill out zone where members can relax and get to know each other, well that's what the freaking forum is for, isn't it? You want people to get to know each other and chill out, then just be friendlier with everybody and anybody. There are some people on this site (particularly a couple in your group) that constantly pick on (I wouldn't necessarily say "bully" as I don't think it's that severe) on the same members. What if those members join the group? Would you stop picking on them? If someone else does, will you tell them to stop?
One thing that ruined Voxli was that everyone was equal there -staff, members, non-KHV members, everyone- but when people started trolling, other people had to gain power and passwords were implemented in order to access, etc.
If you want to get to know members better, if you want a fresh start, if you want a chill-out zone, then the forum is here, so are Private Messages, Visitor Messages, forum games, etc. There really is no need for a separate "chill-out" zone and while group chat always has my vote, your reasons for it are...well, I just addressed them.

 

I think it'd be a good idea to get all the users of KHV into one chat, though not being official.

In fact, i was in one that had a lot of the users of KHV. I enjoyed said chat, until i was kicked out by a user. Still not entirely sure why i was kicked out, but yeah, i feel as though it can also cause tension and hostilities moreso than this forum does at times.

 

I loved Voxli, but it wasn't good for the site. Groups formed and in all honesty if you weren't able to be in the chat you missed out on so much. We should focus on making KHV a safe place to chat instead of making alternate methods. This is a forum, after all, it's the point.

 

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Agreement. I think the gap here is causing a 'rich vs poor' mentality amongst users here. Staff forgets what it was like to be a user, and users forget the responsibilities of staff.

Honestly, look at What? Do you know why our group lurves him and tells him everything (I literally told him there was going to be a ruckus last night before I even made my thread)? Because he takes the time to spend time with us. I feel staff need to make more of an effort to engage in the site's social activities.

Oh, and the 'we don't like some members and don't want to associate with them' reasoning is stupid. That's not how life works, that's not how a job works, and that's not how staff works. We're all here together and staff- you're supposed to be representing the best and most responsible members. Tolerating a social gathering involving someone you dislike and getting to know them better won't kill you.

 

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Speaking in general, sir. This criticizes a lot of my friends, but it's true.

 

This man speaks for me.

 

I think a major point has been left out here.

The issue is not that we need a designated chat or even to make a plan for this, because many of us already do make an effort to add or include staff in our conversations. The problem is that the staff always leave these large conversations. Aside from perhaps two or three of the sectional moderators, all of the others are hard to approach and appear to dislike being brought into groups. That might be because they dislike certain people in the chat or because they are nearly always too busy, but they do avoid getting into large chats with members.

Casual conversation between members and staff is not something that seems to happen very often. As a result, most of what the members see of the staff is a raised hand. The suggestion should be considered with that in mind, because I believe that was the true reason for this thread. Creating a permanent group was just a proxy for getting staff to talk to members in bulk and break what currently seems to be a kind of ice.

Is that right?