Sex Education At A Younger Age

actually i have do have an arguement, which i have been trying to stress ALL ALONG

which is

sex education is something of mature material which therefore is why children should not learn it

i think we all agree that an 8 year old is not mature (not nessacarily for sex but mature in general)

i don't think ANYONE can deny that sex education is mature material

there you go doing it again, twisting my words around that's not very polite you know. i've been stating my views, all you've been doing is twising my words.

there it is again

i agree with the parent thing but i dont' think the option for 8 year olds to learn about sex in elementary school should be there in the first place

 

Why? How is it mature material? It's biology and safety education.

I'm showing you your own argument in relation to other material to point out double standards. The 'twists' of your own words sound pretty silly, don't they? That's what your argument is, silly.

 

ok, that is COMPLETELY wrong right htere, it's mature material becuz for any sex involves nudity and undressing which in itself is mature too.

oh and i hardly see how twisting words shows double standards, the thing with that stupidi geography thing doens't even apply. that's not mature material, sex is. yes, by having sex educaiton for 8 year olds you ARE educating them, but not teaching them something they're ready for.

 

It's understanding the human body, like they don't experience undressing and nudity every time they take a shower? Sexual Education isn't about suggesting awesome positions and lube usage, it's about understanding how you were born, learning about the human body, how it can be dangerous and ways to protect yourself, etc. all so that they're educated and informed about it, instead of getting the wrong information before the correct one.

It is a double standard, because Sex Education is nothing more than that: education. The same argument defending why Sexual Education is 'influencing bad decisions' in children could be applied similarly to how any form of education is 'influencing' them. Coloring books promote vandalism, nap time promotes sloth, Geography promotes abandonment, Earth Science promotes uncleanliness, Social Studies promotes propaganda, Gym class promotes physical fitness which leads to steroids, good lord look at all this foul things being pushed onto our young minds!

 

but that education puts sex in their heads and causes urges that yes they probably wont' act on, but there is the risk they will. and see, we're both going in circles now. i see we both have VERY different definitions of mature which is probably why this is going nowhere

*trying to block the anime laser thing between our eyes that show that 2 ppl are in a disagreement*

EDIT: i'm done for tonight, i'm going to sleep now

 

Geographical education puts exploration in their heads and causes urges to want to explore other continents and countries, yes they probably won't act on, but there is the risk they will, suddenly a family gets up in the morning and they have a note from Little Timmy saying he's off to explore Rome!

That's it guys, Children need to not know of the existence of Europe.

 

Well in my eyes there are really two parts of sex education.

There is the basics, which are dont get pregnant, blah blah blah we all know how that goes right?

And then theres stuff that goes into further detail, such as reproductive organs, condoms, tampons, etc etc.

The basics I believe can be taught at a younger age. Like some people say "Knowledge is power" If kids know about what it is and why its not the greatest idea in the world to do it at a young age, I think they will be less likely to go out and have sex.

And then later on when they are more mature, they can be taught the more mature material.

 

The fact of the matter is that it essentially comes to how the information is used and understood. Being a source education its use is solely for the purpose of furthering knowledge in the context of the right aspects that are associated with it. Arguing that a child knows that they didn't just pop out of thin air will increase their chances of having sex is like saying that teaching drug awareness is going to enthuse children into soliciting and using drugs. Just as every child is told that drugs are bad, they're told they exist as a result of sexual intercourse. It's not like they're being taught about foreplay or the natural pleasure that comes from the act, it's simply informing kids that mom and dad had a much larger role in giving them life.

 

Sex doesn't necessarily involve nudity and nudity doesn't necessarily involve sex.

Allow me to explain.

1. Sex doesn't always involve nudity. Yes it is the most common way to go about it but the people involved do not have to be completely undressed for the act to occur. I'll leave it at that since there's impressionable minds reading.

2. Nudity doesn't always involve sex. The term 'Naked' is more used for sexual situations and 'Nudity' refers more to the artistic aspect of the unclothed human figure. In Ancient Rome and Greece, the nude human figure was the epitome of artistic development in both sculpture and paintings in the period only to be lost to the strict and rigid Byzantium style.

People need to learn the difference between those two wrongly interchangeable words. There is nothing sexual about Botticelli's 'Birth of Venus' or Michelangelo's 'David'. They are nudes of human form but not meant to be sexual.

So I guess teaching the youngsters art history is out of the question now? My my, the curriculum is whittling down.

Anyway, like MuffinMan said, what is it these youngsters are doing when they take a shower? I know I don't stroll into the shower fully dressed. I undress before going into the shower same as those kids undress before entering a bath or whatever. Such things are hardly mature once you get down to it.

I think MuffinMan was trying to make a comparison. I read about a different country and go: 'Hmm...I might like to go there.' Such things would have been viewed as 'treason' in certain days and ages. Still might be in the age we live in now. I don't know how many times I've heard from young anime fans 'Japan sounds so cool! I wanna live there.'
(Pardon if I completely missed the mark there, MuffinMan. It is rather late when I'm posting this.)

Personally, I learned about pads and tampons and my menstruation cycle when I was in the 5th grade. I think I would have been...maybe in the 8-11 range. Same as the men learned about their bits and putting a condom on a banana. The latter more in depth I learned in 7-8th grade and took sex ed in High School.

 

but what i mean is that sex is something mature, no denying that, and 8 year olds are immature both in the mind and the body. i mean yea, i get what you mean with nudity and sex not being totally related but you really can't have sex without SOME sort of nudity.

 

Likewise, learning about sex has no dire consequences. You're talking like learning about sex is the same thing as wanting to have sex although they are two completely different things. Going by your logic, kids shouldn't be taught history because learning about what the Nazis did might make the children want to do the same. Oh noez! =O And isn't it terrible how children are taught chemistry at school? That's practically begging for them to make some home-made explosives.

In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with sexual education early on. A child should have the right to learn about sex whenever he/she becomes interested in it. Perhaps kids shouldn't be told everything in exact detail, but they should be informed of the potential dangers of sex and that there's no rush to have sexual intercourse with another person. The more you sugar coat things for children, the harder the crash landing to reality will be. I'm a firm believer in that ignorance causes more teenage pregnancies than having learned about sex early in life. I'm 14 and I've known about sex since I was 4 (not in detail, mind you, but I did get the basic concept and that it's nothing that should be taken lightly) and I've never really had a desire to have sex myself.

And I fail to see how learning about sex "Takes away part of your innocence." Knowledge is beauty and knowledge about sex is no different. There is nothing impure about sex and there's no reason to treat it as if there was. The more you try to hide it from children, the bigger their interest will become. What little kid doesn't think along the lines of "Hey! Adults don't want to talk about this so it must be cool"? There's no point in letting a kid live in ignorance since finding out the truth is just a matter of time and the more time a child gets to think about it, the faster his/her view on the matter will mature.

 

fine they shouldn't be taught geography at age 8 then, i personally didn't even have history classes until like 7th grade anyway. or sex education. look, what i'm trying to say is that they're not ready for it! it's like trying to teach Calculus to 8 year olds, they're NOT going to understand it very well becuz they're NOT ready. i know it differs with every child and i know that not every kid is going to want to have sex just becuz they know about it (and i NEVER implied that EVERY kid is going to have sex becuz of the education btw) but they should just remain uneducated about it until they're ready. i think middle school children are more appropriate age.

you can't be serious. geography isn't something dirty but sex is. besides how many kids will have the money to go to Rome. i can't believe you actually think that geography would do that.

 

As funny as it is to watch this, it might as well be made clear. The logic of your argument is being satirized. Assuming that sex-ed will increase the desire to have sex in children is the same as assuming that learning about geography will cause people to want to see it up close. It's not like they're going to be handed a half-assed understanding- it's called sex education because it places the subject in a context that can be understood and provide a basis of information to scaffold knowledge from.

 

And how many kids will decide to have sex with someone just because they've been taught sex-ed? Also, how exactly is sex dirty? Creating life should be considered everything but impure. I seriously don't understand why sex is such a taboo subject. Not being mentally (or physically) ready for sex is not the same as not being ready to know what it is.

If you just slow down and think about it, White_Rook's geography example is just as far fetched as your sex-ed argument. I fail to see how learning about sex will increase one's sexual desires.

 

i was sort of being just as sarcastic as he was it's not my fault he didn't say what he actually meant -_- and besides, SEX IS LIKE THE MOST MATURE THING IN THE WORLD. I CAN'T EVEN THINK OF ANYTHING MORE MATURE. anyways, why can't we just let kids be kids for a while? i mean 8 years old is so young for gods sake. and part of being a kid is yes, being ignorant and kinda stupid

like i said, they're not ready. you wouldn't teach them Calculus so why would you teach them sex education? they just won't understand/appreciate it as much as when they're the approrpiate age.

 

I was still a kid after I learned about sex. In the right context it doesn't warp your mind.

 

Evilman I can see what you are saying about allowing kids to be kids, but you talk about sex as though it is something dirty and should be hidden away. Sex is a part of life and a part of nature, they are going to learn about it at some point, surely it is better for them to learn properly instead of being given myths by their peers. Do you have any idea how many teen pregnancies result because of myths like " You can't get pregnant your first time"

Education is education =/ it doesn't encourage them to have sex, hell if anything when we did sex education in put a lot of people OFF *vivid memory of the birth video* O.o

Making sure they are properly informed wont corrupt them or destroy their innocence, I don't know what school was like for you, but I can still remember sex jokes from when I was about 6, kids already have some idea of what it is. Teaching them can only be a good thing. Now I am not saying give them full major hardcore sex classes, but teaching them the basics is not dirty or wrong =/​

 

i guess so but i personally think sex IS something dirty btw. i mean yes educating them is a good thing but not until they're old enough, otherwise it really wont' do them that much good anyways. i'm not saying they should never be educated on it, just hold off on it a little longer. i mean, i learned about it from a friend when i was around that age too, and yes it dint affect me badly but i was GROSSED OUT alot. but i don't think we should teach them the basics of HOW to have sex but rather the precautions/dangers about it. you know, like how drug education. but there is a problem with both educations, both of them would be explicitly telling them it's a bad thing. that would sort of make it have like a "forbidden fruit" sort of charm that most won't fall for, but that charm can't be a good thing (NOT SAYING ALL THE KIDS WILL FALL FOR IT, SO DON'T GO THERE). but i dunno, i just think a 12 year old would handle it more maturely than an 8 year old (and wont' be as grossed out)

 

Exactly, you learnt from a friend xD that isn't really the best way to learn

That's kind of what everyone has been saying >.> no one is suggesting we give them classes on how to actually ****, but to make them aware of the precautions etc and so they have a basic understanding.

Sex education doesn't say that sex is a bad thing, sex education doesn't assign good or bad to sex, it just gives information.

Though if you think about it, there is always going to be a small minority of people who see it that way, no matter what their age is.

There is no reason for them to be grossed out =/ I can see what you are saying, but then some people would be argued that not even a 12 year old is old enough.

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yea it really isn't, he went into HUGE DETAIL and was probably WANTED me to be grossed out. i would've preferred not knowing and preferred to have just kept on believing in the stork, lol.

i think that actually differs from teacher to teacher, my teacher said that sex will destroy your life if you do it unmarried. and then she went on to gross us out when she said "my husband and i don't use condoms anymore we trust each other" and i was like "ILL, don't put that image in my head", lol

i dunno about the exact age they are actually ready to learn this tho but i can say w/o a doubt that 12 years old is a better age to learn this than 8 years old.