Birth by Sleep Secret bosses hint towards next game?

ok from what i just remembered the secret bosses such as xehanort in FM and hten terra in FM+ i believe it is just hinting to the next game so what im thinking with the mysterious figure is that he is going to be important to the plot of the next game... im not talking about coded or 3D. but possibly KH 3.. or maybe even there will be another form of a person such as nobody and heartless and ofcourse the somebody.. because so far each important game has introduced a new form. so any thoughts on this??

 

I actually just mentioned this in another thread, fancy that.

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From the true ending, the most we can glean from the secret boss is that he is Xehanort's partner (Yen Sid said Xehanort was not alone). Given the fighting style of this partner, it may be that he was in contact with Xemnas, or left something of his where Xemnas could find it. There's too little information to say anymore, though; it could be another new character, or a form of one whom we already know. Secret characters have been both.

 

great mind think alike =P but yeah this is true and this is why i love KH so much its such an amazing plot and it thickens more nad more with each theory

 

But why is he dressed in an Organisation XIII cloak?

 

I'd think MF may have led Xehanort to continuing his research though AtW told him not to (possibly a secret apprentice or even a secret advisor). He may be the reason Xehanort and the other apprentices became Heartless (and in turn Nobodies). This would make sense also he may have had contact with Xemnas and I think he may have showed Xemnas how to wield the Ethereal Blades (and he may have showed Xemnas the badass cloak XD). This may just clear up a bit of doubt.

 

I always assumed that was Braig's doing. Plus, it brings the MF's allegiance into question: Did Xehanort want to be split? Effectively, everything that took place during Kingdom Hearts, CoM, II, and Days was wasted time for him; none of it led any of his composite parts to Kingdom Hearts, and he had no awareness of it, nor could he move forward with his plans.

 

Maybe the MF has a score to settle with AtW and so he messed with his assistants until none were left to help him. He could've had an ulterior motive for helping Xehanort in his forbidden research, whether it was revenge or something greater is the one thing I can't figure out though...

 

Plus the coat protects you from the corridors of darkness.

 

Yeah, the coats are to keep the darkness form overtaking you. Even if you ARE a Nobody you're still at risk. This makes me think that MF may have been dealing with a fair amount of darkness in whatever he was doing. (This also supports my theory that he helped Xehanort with his heart research)

 

Well the Corridors of Darkness really only effect those beings with hearts since it corrupts and tempts the heart when you pass through. The reason that the Org wear them I believed is because of Xemnas having the memories of MX who originally wore it as a way to protect himself from losing his heart. MX may have controlled darkness but he was no idiot, only dabbling in it to gain access to the X-blade.
What the objective of this coated guy was I have no clue. He probably is a cohort of Xehanort in some form and may be why he wears the black coat, yet he is never shown using darkness of any kind, so the reason for it is likely the fact it's an as of yet underprice character. I'm guessing almost all of the concept and identity of this guy is probably set but the actual creation is not.

 

This... this explains a lot, though I still don't get what his role in all of this is AT ALL!!! Guess we'll have to wait and see if Re:Coded has any secret bosses (or if they just reuse MF for emphasis)

 

...I didn't know this. This completely eliminates Xehanort as a possibility for the MF. None of his incarnations would have needed the coat, bar Xemnas, who didn't exist at that time.

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In one of the first BbS secret reports, Xehanort states that he long ago forsook his armor while traversing the Lanes Between because he didn't fear the darkness. Later in the reports he states that he can't use Ventus as his new vessel because his heart isn't dark enough. I don't think Xehanort's bothered by it at all, much less enough that he'd need the cloak.

Chronologically, the MF is the first person to wear the cloak. This may be an important step to discerning his identity. Who would have needed that cloak first? Xehanort is big on balance, so perhaps it's a Light user.

 

I'm not so sure that the Corridors only effect those with a heart. In Re:Com, when Diz gives Riku the coat, these are their exact words:

"What's this?"
"The Organization will pursue you. Like a pack of hunting dogs, they will sneak up on you if they sense your presence. However--this cloak that is worn by Nobodies will render their eyes and their noses useless. [referring to Mickey] The ears, not so...
They wear this to give themselves protection from being devoured by darkness. Is it clear? Even the Organization cannot rule the darkness."

No, chronologically Xehanort used the coat first. He is wearing it in the opening video when he is at Destiny Islands with Ven.

 

Maybe Eraqus had a Nobody? After all he did have a stong resolve. You never know...

 

Eraqus couldn't have a Nobody. In order for that to happen, his heart would have to be devoured by darkness to create a heartless first. His heart, however, was not released in any way.

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He merely died, and in the process, gave some of his light to Terra (which is explained in the secret ending). But no heartless was born, so no Nobody was born.

 

As daxma loves to point out, the concept of death isn't in the KH universe. Nomura has stated so. He said that in KH no one truely dies and can be brought back by a number of different means, such as Xehanort coming back as a Somebody, because of the destruction and his Heartless and Nobody. Ansem the Wise is also back, seeing as he appears in Blank Points as a man with a distant memory of himself, though he was suppose to have died in KH2.
Eraqus, since he didn't produce a heart when he was stricken down, is most likely within Terra, since he was the closest body to him at the time and a close connection in terms of their bonded hearts. MX also states in Blank Points that Eraqus is helping Terra fight MX's heart invading his body. Eraqus isn't dead simply somewhere else, in an unknown capacity.

And I'm still confused on why the Org neeed darkness protecting coats, when it's stated in game that darkness holds no sway over them since they have no hearts to tempt and are born from nothingness. At first, the reason the coats were introduced is to hide the character of Xemnas in KH; Final Mix and also both Roxas and Riku in the KH Secret movie since they didn't have proper character designs for them at that stage in development. They were picked up as a trend after that.

I also pose the question that is MX didn't fear the darkness then why was he wearing a Black coat after years of dabbling in darkness? Isn't he, at that point, either immune or uncaring of what happens to him?

 

Oh yeah, that's right. But then, why would--

Well, y'all seem to be on top of things here. xD

I think it would be helpful for us all to remember the foremost function of non-darkness-repellant cloaks: that of disguising one's identity. I always assumed those who wore the cloaks had something to hide, and that they also ward off the darkness doesn't necessarily change that. I can't tell you the relevance to any particular character who wears one, but it's something to consider.

 

In his secret reports I believe he says that his body is becoming weak and fragile. He probably wanted to sustain himself long enough to use Terra as a vessel for his heart. He did care about what happened to him at that point because without Terra's body he would be doomed...