Have you ever had a thought of school rules. Like no cell phones allowed, no gum, no eating in class, no ipods, mp3's things like that. But yet it seems like the teachers break these rules all the time. They pull out their cells, eat, drink juice not water. Now if the the school is so strict in enforcing these rules. Why is it such a big deal when we break them when the teachers do it all the time. I'm not understanding that at all. Doesn't that mean that its the teachers that are showing us to break the rules when they are the ones that enforce some of them. So is there really any point in having guidelines to follow if its going to be broken by the highered staff. Honestly what does that tell you about our education system and how corrupt it is. Even the puishments seem to be unreasonable. How is it you can get 3 days ISS for watching a fight if they catch you.(That's in my school not sure about everyone else.) Or the fact that now you get arrested for watching a fight if the cops catch you.(The reason for this is cause at my school a 2 weeks before the midterms. There was a fight the whole week. So now the cops are at my school.) And it gets to the extream where anyone that watches a fight will get arrested. And the thing is that they can't arrest all those people. So how corrupt are you schools when it comes to not folllowing ceartain rules?
You may not have realized this, but vast majority of adults look down on the young. I guess it's justifiable because it's usually the young adults who are into gambling, drugs and fights. School rules of conduct don't apply to teachers because they see themselves as the "holier than thou" kind of adults who are responsible enough to do no wrong. Another issue is that most kids tend to lie A LOT. THat's why instead of asking whose responsible, teachers will have anyone who's slightly involved punished in order to avoid hearing half-assed excuses or from having to deal with a bigger hassle than necessary. That's why teachers usually get in troule with parents, because parents will at least listen to their child's side of the story and defend them in front of school faculty (a portion of the time). The truth is that it isn't the system that's corrupt, it's the people who run it.
They are older than us , plus they are staff of the school , thry enforce the rules , they do not break the rules because the rules are directed to the students , not at them.
My high school principal gave me a good answer when I asked him about this: Because they're the teachers. In a school hierarchy, teachers are above you. They have their own rules they have to follow and you don't (you could probably have sex with any other student without worrying about losing your job, for example) and you have your rules to follow that they don't. In some schools, even the teachers disagree with some rules, though. I've had teachers that are very lenient when it comes to dress code or let us use ipods/cell phones as long as its only in their class, etc. Teachers are the enforcers of the rules, not the subject of them.
-cracks knuckles- Time for the resident teacher to offer her views from the other side of the desk. We enforce certain rules to cover our own hides in the event that someone actually gets hurt. For example, teachers have probably scolded you in the past for leaning back in your chair. We do this because if we didn't, and you slipped and cracked your head open (or something), we'd have our asses sued off in an instant because we weren't watching you carefully enough. Sometimes state laws don't protect us, so if something happens it's automatically our fault, not the students. However, each teacher has their own certain rules they employ, it just depends on that teacher. I've seen some nasty ones in my time that would be on you if you so much as sneezed while they were talking. Still others wouldn't bat an eyelid if you tried to jump out the third floor window. And when I was a sophomore, I was given one day ISS because I was "involved" in a fight, when all I did was put my hands in front of my face to block a girl from hitting me. The principal ruled that I had technically laid my hands on her and still punished me. She got 5 days OSS, but I shouldn't have been punished at all. Yeah, it's unfair. But it was probably done to discourage me from coming after the girl who started it when she did come back. It might help to try and look at it that way. They're punishing all parties involved to discourage any future outbursts from that same group. In my own classroom, I don't allow gum and all four legs of your chair had better be on the floor. But I also teach a class of fifth graders, so I'm a bit more lenient about things because my students have proven that they can be trusted with certain privileges. We have a snack break midmorning because my students don't get a lunch until almost 12:30, so for about 20 minutes we take a break, have a snack, and unwind. Sometimes we'll add in silent reading, and the class enjoys having a chance to relax. I did this mostly because I'm hypoglycemic and usually by that times my blood sugar is low enough I sound drunk. Cell phones are allowed but they must be silent and stowed in their backpacks. They're allowed to check them at snack and recess only, which is when I'll check my own to make sure there haven't been any emergencies. For the kids, we've told parents to call the office rather than the child's cell phone in the event of an emergency, but sometimes I have difficulty seeing why as both a call from the office and a kid's ringtone are both equally disruptive during a lesson. iPod's, handheld games, etc. we only allow at recess, or for bus rides on field trips, but then those get stowed on the bus when we actually arrive at the field trip. Mario up there kind of beat me to it, but the point of the matter is you have your rules, we have ours. We have to enforce them, even if we don't like them, because it's our job and we could get fined, sued, or terminated if we didn't and something went horribly wrong.
Well, y'all just have some crappy teachers, then. All of mine practice what they preach; if they don't, the class calls them on it and we all get a laugh out of it. Some professors set rules that almost seem to be more for themselves than for their students, as they know how prone they are to certain disruptive behaviors. I don't ever have fights at my schools, so I wouldn't know about that. Although the one college does have campus police, but it's also full of hipsters, hippies and geeks, so no one's getting into fights there. They're just around to keep the drug use under control.
I think I see now I can get how the techers have a different set of guidelines to follow. But does that still give them the right to actual break they guidelines they set themselves. or example if a teacher says no eating in class. And as class goes on and independent work is being done. They pull out some food and begin to enjoy themselves. So to me that would be like hey if they can do it. Why not I. I mean there's no point in saying something unless you folow through with it. That makes you a hypocrite so wouldn't you expect to see kids start sneaking in some snacks and eat while the teacher isn't looking. To me the process starts with the one that set the rules. Yes I fully understand the students are their to learn, and explore new things in a safe enviorment. But yet it seems to me why some fights break out is because one thing was said or done. But some brave soul wanted to defy it so a conflict arose. And then boom that's the spark and from there on. You have one party siding with person A. And the other part siding with person B. And peer pressure comes into play, but that's just one of many ways I see why students like to retaliate to school law. And I mean no disrespect to teachers at all.
lol my teachers do that all the time...... I think it's the 'Do as I say not as I do' thing again one rule for them and another for us
Rules are to restrict you from doing bad. Morally and educationally in this example. If they allowed gum, litter and vandalism would occur more often. If MP3s were allowed, less people would listen in lesson and more people would fail in exams. Rules in school are to push people from failing into succeding. It may not work all of the time, but it does stop some from failing school. And in the end, schools really only care about your results.
