Kingdom Hearts II Scar's Nobody

I was just thinking about his nobody iimo if pride lands makes a further apperance in any future games, perhaps Scar's nobody could be Kovu.

 

That's like Jafar's Nobody should be Aladdin's dad.

 

Kovu was Scar's adopted son, and one of the candidates for the throne, if everything had gone to Scar's plan. I would like Pride Lands to appear, it was fun being so small and having to fight in different ways. If it did though, while Scar's Nobody is a good idea for a possible boss, it wouldn't be Kovu.

 

Eh? Atleast there's some form of connection between Scar and Kovu, they look alike and such.

Jafar and Aladdin's dad have nothing to do with each other.

Also I think Scar's heart was strong enough to create a nobody.

Personally I think it would be an interesting twist.

 

I have to agree with the rest. Scar's Nobody would be a completely different entity apart from Kovu. But it's likely we'll see him in the possible continuation, after all it's mentioned Nala is pregnant in several cutscenes, and Kovu and Keiara are about the same age.

But keep in mind, Pete was searching throughout the worlds to create more powerful Heartless. Organization had a similiar idea, creating both strong Heartless and Nobodies. It's very likely Scar's Nobody is also nearly identical to his orginal self.

The next time we see the Pride lands, it will almost definatley be lush and green, and the main idea of troubles will most likely stem from the presence of Zera and Xarcs.... err.... Scar.

 

Scar's will was simply not strong enough.
Kovu is Scar's son. Square probably wouldn't change the storyline to that degree.

 

Correction: Chosen by Scar. Why? Scar is Simba's Uncle. Simba's Daughter is Keiara(Sp? I haven't seen the movie in years). Kovu and Keiara are lions, granted, but they are also Disney characters. Ergo, Scar does have offspring with Zeira, but Scar chose another Lioness's cub to be his heir, and the cub is not in any known to be his.

And whose to say Scar does not have a strong will? Demyx somehow became an Human-looking Nobody, and we all know Demyx. Scar was defeated by Scar and became a Heartless, so therefore, Scar could very well have a Nobody.

Problematic however, is

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the point that if a Heartless joins Kingdom Hearts before its Nobody is destroyed, then there's the fact is the being becomes whole again once the Nobody is defeated. Scar'll just come back after the climatic Pride Lands battle.

 

Honestly, I don't think Square would bother changing the plot of a Disney world that intricately when there wasn't even an Organization member in the Pride Lands at all during KH2.

Pete's presence in the worlds was kind of a joke, and Pete's plan had no real relation to the Nobodies, so I don't see any evidence there, either.

If Scar did have a Nobody though, it wouldn't be Kovu. Kovu was a different character entirely.
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Which sequel was this in? Is there even a Lion King 3?

If Scar gets a nobody, then a whole lot of other characters, such as Malificent, will too. It's far easier to leave the Disney worlds to be the cheap movie knockoffs they are, and have the nobodies appear in their own world.

 

Not to get off topic, but does this mean that

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the Org. XIII have a possibility of returning? :=D:

 

That's like saying Judge Frollo becomes a Heartless and the resulting Nobody is Quasimodo. No offense, but your theory's a little farfetched. XD

As for Scar, I don't think he'll have a Nobody. He just longed for power and, after he became king, became a whiny little diva (in the movie, anyway). He doesn't have much of a strong heart, always hiding behind his hyenas.

Though if I am correct in assuming, Shan-Yu became a Heartless himself before the final battle with Sora and Mulan, hence the black glow. He is a fearless conquering warlord; I bet he'd have a Nobody.

 

I think Scar will have a nobody, but definately not Kovu. Kovu is a seperate character. But I don't know why people are saying Scar is weak-willed, quite the opposite.

Up until this point, anyone being turned into heartless lost their sense of being and form. Seeing as people being natrually turned into Heartless are always Pureblood, they must become Shadows/Mega Shadows/Gigas Shadows/Bit Snipers/Darkballs/Neoshadows/Novashadows/Darksides/Dark Followers/Possessors/Shadow Stalkers/Dark Thorns/Invisibles/Orcii. Only two retained their sense of self- Sora and Xehanort's Heartless, and only Xehanort's Heartless retained human form.

Scar clearly retains his lion form, showing he is just as strong willed as Sora and Ansem. Throughout the battle he speaks thing such as 'Bow to me', indicating he also retains sense of self. He is strong enough to have made a Nobody.

The same deal goes for Shan Yu, assuming he did become a Heartless. Its not clear if he did as it wasn't stated outright, he could have just been using the powers of darkness.

 

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At the very least, Xehanort.

 

Xehanort's Heartless had the Heartless emblem, meaning it was an emblem Heartless. I imagine it was a pet project of Xehanort. Lead the others into darkness, but made sure he retained his form. Considering this, I'd say it's more likely that Scar was simply using the powers of darkness, because not even Xehanort kept form without an emblem.

 

But didn't Pete say something along the lines of 'Anger and jealousy turned the King of Pride Rock into a Heartless?'


Then again, Pete is so stupid I guess we can't take his word for it.

 

Wasn't it said that the heartless sign was a sign Xehanort put on the artificial heartless that he created so he could tell the difference between an artificial and pureblood heartless. Xehanort could be wearing that emblem because its his own unique symbol he made

 

Quite possibly. It was said by Ansem in one of the KH2 reports (I forget the exact wording) that his apprentices had 'given in to darkness'. This implies a pureblood transformation to me.

If he did turn himself into a Heartless artificially, thus being an Emblem, then surely the very fact he desired to become a Heartless would drive his heart into darkness anyway, triggering a pureblood transformation?