Kingdom Hearts II Scar's Heartless

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  1. Ŧiмє Яǽрεѓ King's Apprentice

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    As we all know, Scar became a Heartless during the first Pridelands story. A few topics have been posted over the years about how surely he must also have a Nobody out there somewhere that may be encountered in future games. But here is something else I'm surprised no one else noticed.

    Scar maintains his original form after becoming a Heartless. The only other being to do this that we know of is 'Ansem' SoD. He also, like 'Ansem', retains the ability to speak (Battle quotes such as 'Bow to me!' when fighting him), which seems to indicate he is not a mindless heart-harvester like other Heartless, and still maintains his own thoughts.

    So, what made Scar special enough to achieve this? 'Ansem' contained the hearts of two very strong-willed, powerful Keyblade Wielders within him, which may have contributed to this. What does Scar have going for him in this regard?
     
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    If you remember, Scar does not exactly maintain his original form. He is darker, and has bits of darkness flying off of him. And his abilities change greatly. However, I think Scar's Heartless isn't really a Heartless that you think of normally- he became a Heartless because of the jealousy in his heart. According to Pete, Scar became a Heartless because of anger, not because he was truly consumed by darkness. He changed because of darkness inside of him, not because of outer darkness, which obviously has some effect- Ansem SoD gave himself to the darkness, and according to Ansem the Wise, the darkness accepted him because of his willingness to lose his heart.

    Scar is almost the same way. He did not choose to give his heart to darkness, but he did so unwillingly. However, this does still further him from other Heartless in a variety of ways. First off, it was because of his emotions, something I believe is rare among Heartless. Secondly, Scar's "death" after being destroyed left a ghost- or a large amount of ghosts, if you remember during your second Prideslands visit. Both of these give Scar some leverage as a powerful Heartless, meaning he is strong enough inside to control the darkness.

    As for his Nobody- that's the thing, where is his Nobody? It could be controlling a new Organization based off of Disney's Nobodies. Or, it could have become a simple Dusk. I think that, however, his Nobody may not be powerful enough to take a human/lion form as a Nobody. He might have become a new breed of Nobody, ones that look like animals. But the rumors of Scar's Nobody appearing anytime soon are almost definitely false. In KH3, it's all new Disney worlds- so no Prideslands. And Disney characters only go between worlds on special occasions. And if we do see Scar's Nobody, we might not recognize it. Or- here's an idea- the ghosts you saw in your second Prideslands visit were Scar's powerful Nobody.

    Scar is just a unique character in Kingdom Hearts, and I think this is actually rather interesting.
     
  3. Ŧiмє Яǽрεѓ King's Apprentice

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    When I said he maintained original form, I meant the same basic structure, as opposed to a Shadow or something. Ansem looked quite different from Xehanort and had many wierd abilities too.

    I was under the impression that there are two ways of a person becoming a Heartless- An individual falls into darkness, or their heart is forcibly taken by another Heartless. It is true that Pete said Scar became a Heartless due to anger and jealousy, and these are dark emotions. I think emotions are the key to becoming a Heartless. He has already murdered his brother and attempted to murder his child nephew (believing he was successful), and the whole of the Pridelands is rotting under his rule, which seems to me like he is falling into darkness. And for all we know, Scar could have been using powers of darkness off-screen to control the various Heartless that attacked Sora and co in the Pridelands. I agree that he did not become one willingly, but I doubt many who become Heartless do. After all, the countless Pureblood Heartless out there were people just like him who fell into darkness.

    And I think Scar's Ghost isn't what it appears to be- its not actually part of him at all. Groundshaker is made up of many of these things- how can someone have more than one ghost? I think that maybe Groundshaker had some ability where it could see into a persons mind and conjure an image that will weaken their heart so they are easier to consume, and chose Simba as a target.

    And just because Pridelands will not be a world in 3D doesn't mean it won't be featured in a later game. Besides, if Scar's Nobody is powerful (which I think it would be considering the strength of his Heartless) it could just Dark Portal to whatever world.
     
  4. Excasr The Forgotten XIII

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    Remember on one of the Secret Ansem Reports?
    3 elements to creat a life:
    Body...Soul... and of course, a Heart.

    When the Heart left the Body and Soul, they become a Nobody. Scar become a heartless but maybe him Heart didn't left the Body and Soul.
    Well but still... he turned into a Heartless and changed a bit...
    And the most the heartless changed himself, stronger he are (exept Xehanort Heartless) and the strongest Nobody when still with him original self form. Scar isn't a great nobody at all...

    Threre many answer. What i said is just another answer my friends told me another day while we were talking about it.