Kingdom Hearts II Roxas's keyblades. Real or Fake?

I know it sounds stupid but it's really bothering me. Why I thought Roxas's keyblades (in this case, oathkeeper and oblivion) may fake? Oathkeeper's keychain

If Roxas hold only Oblivion, I can still believe if that's real keyblade. But Roxas also hold Oathkeeper.

We all know that Oathkeeper's keychain is Kairi's charm. And we all also know that Sora hold that charm before he sleep into that white pod (chain of memories). How can Roxas has Oathkeeper if Sora hold the keychain? He borrow it?

I want to know your opinion and theory about this. Thank you ^^

 

Oath and Oblivion represent Riku and Kairi, Roxas can wield both, why not? In my opinion, Keychains are just memories, every Keychain represents someone's memories.

 

I think Nomura did make that on purpose because if you put the 2 keyblades together Oathkeeper and Oblivion it means something like "(Don't) forget the Promise"

I guess he has those 2 keyblades because of Sora since they are connected

...or because of Xion... but that would be just a theory :/

 

Oathkeeper and Oblivion can't be fake. It is true that it's strange for them to have the same keyblade. Just as RoxasSora2010 stated, They represent Riku and Kairi, Riku being Oblivion, and Kairi being Oathkeeper. If the chain is real the Keyblade is real I believe.

The good luck charm is probably still on Oathkeeper because mainly. Sora never did claim "Oathkeeper" in anyway, only the charm. We're suppose to think Roxas or Sora ripped off the charm and Roxas kept it? O_o

My thoughts though. I could be wrong.

 

If the chain is real then the keyblade pretty much has 2 be real aswell

 

The keychains are made of memories where as the Keyblades are real. This applies for all Keyblades that are real. Xion's Keyblade is fake, but Roxas's, Sora's, Riku's, Kairi's, and Mickky's are all real to my knowledge.

 

I would think they are real, because what other weapon could hurt nobodies? unless he had a heart strong enough to construct a new keyblade, but he doesn't have a heart, so this isn't possible. I think both keyblades are real, and they serve some symbolic purpose, because Nomura does stuff like that.

 

They are real...Sqare enix said.

 

my theory is...... roxas is part of sora so thats why he can wield oathkeeper and oblivion because just like sora.... he is light and darkness.

 

I just thought that since Sora is connected to Roxas, then if Sora can wield them and Roxas can, then they're both real... I don't think that makes sense...

 

Riku can as well.

 

why oblivion represent riku? Is there any evidence that riku has connection with oblivion?

And, if keychain are really made from memories, why the old keychain (like jungle king) didin't come back to Sora after his memory had recovered?

Is oblivion also means promise? I thought Nomura put oathkeeper and oblivion to Roxas cuz those keyblade were popular among fans

In KH wikipedia, Roxas's oathkeeper and Sora's have difference. Sora's oathkeeper is white and Roxas is gray (I myself can't see the difference, though)

And keychain drew keyblade's power, so without keychain (in this case, kairi's charm), the keyblade won't get it's power (my thought though)

there're another weapon that can hurt nobodies. Donald's staff, Goofy's shield, Mulan's sword, etc

there're no evidence yet that Xion's keyblade is fake. If you thought that Xion's is fake, then there's possibility that Roxas also hold the fake keyblade

 

I think it has been said. Then if you think about it it's kinda obvious, in KH1, you find Oblivion after the fight with dark Riku, then in the secret end of KH1, you see Roxas fighting some Heartless, then there's Riku on that skyscraper than he takes Oblivion when he gets down of it to fight with Roxas.

And if you look carefully at Roxas, at 3:22 he has Kingdom Key in his right hand.

 

Roxas is Sora's nobody, so his keyblades would be real, Kairi's charm "Oathkeeper", is what Roxas uses, but doesn't that prove that it's real and that they're connected.

Also if they were fake, how could he beat the nobody's?

 

Oblivion means "Forget/ting"

Oath(keeper) means "Promise"

Put these now together and you receive "Don't forget the promise"

Why "don't"? Because Kairi said that sentence to Sora

Oblivion is actually a "optional keyblade" in KH 1 since you could easily forget it in the treasure above the platform where you fought Riku.

 

In Japan's translation, oblivion name is memories past and the keychain is black version of sora's necklace so to be honest, I can't find any connection about riku and oblivion, except that oblivion have kanji 'darkness' (yami) in it's teeth (it fitted riku in KH 1 but not in KH 2)

and about that video, Roxas threw it to Riku (Strike Raid move, I guess) and Riku catch it. That kingdom key maybe Xion's kingdom key since I never saw Roxas use kingdom key when he with Xion

If it's really Kairi's charm, it'll be totally strange cuz Sora hold it before he sleep into the white pod and we all know that Kairi only made one

After all, there're another weapon (beside keyblade) that can huet nobody and heartless like Soul Eater for example. And Roxas is Sora's nobody so he has abilityto hurt them

From what I know, in japanese translation, oathkeeper's name is amulet of promise and oblivion's name is memories past. So, to be honest, I don't get the message 'don't forget the promise'

beside, sora only made 2 promise
1. To Kairi : "I'll come back to you. I promise"
2. To Riku : Riku said " Take care of her (Kairi)" and sora nodded

 

he also made a "fake" promise to Namine but still said its a promise but that's irrevalant. and those 2 are the promises he won't forget: duh

Think about it, Oathkeeper: Sora keeps his oath to Kairi, keychain being the charm she made him.
Sora's Nobody is Roxas so Sora's memories of Kairi transformed to Oathkeeper Sora turned into a Nobody. The charm turned into a keychain, its not the same charm sora has, just a keychain version of it THAT MAKES THE KEYBLADE REAL.

Oblivion: Riku's darkness i guess. The same with Oathkeeper, Sora's memory of Riku and/or RIku's darkness made Oblivion. I personally think the dark crown keychain represnets the way Riku was the orginial keybearer but chose darkness instead.

 

I always thought they were real,but in Kh 358/2 days,we will know how he got Oblivion and Oathkeeper for sure.I think.

 

Yeah, Sora did make promises BUT the keyblades represent that HE shouldn't forget those TWO promises...

Besides in every language Oblivion means something different; In german it's called "Memoire" which should be in english translated: "Memory"

This game has indeed many mysteries :P

 

Yeah, and hope the next installment (KH 3) will answer it all

Roxas born before Sora made promise to Kairi, right? Doesn't it weird if That memories also transferred to Roxas?

and about oblivion, well, it's logical and explaining about why oblivion's keychain is like sora'snecklace but black. Thanks ^^