Birth by Sleep roxas/ven

please can someone tell me what the difference is between roxas and ven

 

Ven is 10 yrs before Roxas was Sora's nobody they look the same but differnt by age.. and Ven holds his Keyblade differently then Roxas..​

 

Also, Ven's outfit is shiny like Final form's and is different yet similar to Roxas's.

 

Most likely.....not alot. The outfit and 10 year thing are obvious, but what about their species? Human, Unbirth, Nobody, Heartless? What about that?

 

true only time will tell us if Ven is an Unbirth or a Nobody but atleast we know what Roxas looks like before he exists right?

 

true that is very true..... but as far as we know Ven could be an Unbirth.

 

I always thought these things:

Ven is Roxas's Unbirth

Ven is Sora's Unbirth

Roxas was around 10 years back and Sora lost his heart, but got it back (Highly unlikely)

 

We'll never know for sure before the game comes out because of Nomura, for all we know...Sora might be an unbirth. XD Just giving an example..Nomura is a really tricky fellow with these kind of things. :o

 

Actually, a while ago, i had an absolutely flawless theory on this.

it basically stated that Roxas IS Ven. We shall see though :D

 

maybe Ven's heart was somehow connected to Sora's and, instead of getting erased, he was put in a sleep pod. when Sora unlocked his heart, maybe instead of making a nobody, he just awakened Ven, who because he was asleep for ten years without having anyone to take care of his memories, lost all his memories so when Xemnas (I think it was him) named him Roxas, He had forgotten everything so he just went along with it.

 

well we can't know yet if hes an unbirth... only time will show:)

 

i reallydont want Ven to be a unbirth..its to predicatible...


ugh

 

yeah id hate it too... and i think that ven is such a cool char that he shouldn't be..

 

So true. He can't be a fake!!! nothing would make any sense!!!!!

 

I -think- Ven was his own person actually. He seems to be definitely one of the 3 adventurers sent out to stop Master Xehanort, who went corrupt. I don't see any reason why he wouldn't be a real whole person because of this.

Roxas, I think comes about because he's the remaining part of Ven. It's clear that something happens to Ven that Master Xehanort did to him. Terra asks in one scene what Master Xehanort had done to Ven's heart. Ven also says to erase him at a point in the game. So it kind of eludes to the possibility that Ven is made unwhole and perhaps it is what remains of him that ends up with Sora. Roxas I believe is what remains of Ven, after Sora used the Dark Keyblade to separate his Heart from Kairi's so she could return whole again. Namine was also formed there and I -think- that is also how possibly Xion is created. Xion may be what remained of Aqua perhaps and was hidden in Kairi's Heart. I'm not sure on that yet so don't quote me.

However, Roxas and Ven do obviously have a connection though Roxas, as a Nobody and well, only being a portion of Ven but also being connected to Sora, would not recall things. His memory lapse was reasoned in because Sora retained his own memories as a Shadow, though they were beginning to fade and his time as a Shadow was brief as Kairi returned him back to normal. So, in the end, I do think that Roxas is essentially the portion of Ven's Heart and his Soul that endured through being connected to Sora. This is what I can think of so far that makes the most sense.

As for Ven's relation to Sora, I do not know if there is one further than what I described above. I'm -very- sure he's not Sora's father or anything like that. He's way too young for it as he's around 15 when Sora is 4. They may have no blood relation at all, or perhaps he's a brother or a cousin, but nothing has been really shown to state such, so I leave that alone for the time being. At any rate, Ven I think is a whole person who lived and was harmed greatly by Master Xehanort so something was done to fuse what remained of him to Sora. What remained of Ven turned into Roxas when Sora used the Dark Keyblade on himself. Roxas, of course, was his own person, though of course, he was a Nobody. So his identity is his own.

 

im guessing ven is real and Roxas ain't, he doesn't even exist (poor guy)

but im guessing there connection, vens and roxas's, will have something to do with ven getting 'erased'

 

But that makes a Paradox, If Ven is Roxas, Not only is he a nobody but then WHAT was the nobody that was born when Sora became a heartless in Hollow Bastion O_o

I think Ven might have something to do with Roxas' Dual wielding because they both wield differently from other keyblade wielders.
Or maybe The original Three wielders had an impact on image with nobodies?

....I honestly have no clue now.

 

*cough cough* spam

it would be very easy..

i think hes the frist heartless though, cause that thing the MX hold infront of Ven in Olympic Collosum...looks alot like a heart (like the princesses of heart's hearts)

 

I have proof that Ven and Roxas are the same!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd5L7b7Nfm0

Ventus (lol he has a funny name :p ) gets frozen. He might have stayed frozen for 10 years, lost his memory,and was renamed Roxas.

Wow,stuff makes more sense when you write it down.....

 

No, Ven and Roxas are two seperate people

No it doesn't, Keep stuff like this in your head. No one wants to hear this crap.

"Unnecessary" w/e