Birth by Sleep Roxas Theory *Spoilers*

*What your about to read contains spoilers for most of the Kingdom Hearts series including BBS, please leave if you don't want to see. You have been warned.*

Okay so from seeing what happens in BBS I have developed a theory on Roxas.

First of all Roxas is the Nobody of Sora. Roxas was created when Sora used The Keyblade of People's Hearts to return Kairi's heart.

We know fro BBS that Sora's heart is merged with Ventus' full heart. I say full because Vanitas is Ven's darkness and while Ven was under Vanitas' control I do believe that they fused.

Sora eventually grows up and to us Vanitas looks like a black-haired and yellow-eyed Sora. Actually Sora looks like a brown-haired and blue-eyed Vanitas because Vantias' appearance was reveled 10 years before Sora looked like him.

Now for Roxas. Roxas is said to be a special Nobody because it seemed that he could feel emotions and felt like he had a heart. I believe Roxas had a heart. The heart he had was Ven's heart though which is why they look exactly alike. That is also why Roxas didn't have any memories because he was made from Ven's heart not Sora's. Sora's heart was in the Shadow Heartless.

Another thing is that if Sora still had Ven's heart in him while he was in CO he could have remembered that CO is actually The Land of Depature and his body is hidden under the 13 floors and 13 basements. This is not confirmed but could be a possibility.

Also Sora eventually fights the Lingering Sentiment A.K.A. Terra's heart in his armor. He starts by asking for Aqua and Ven then says he thinks he met Sora before. This is because of Sora's appearance to Vanitas. He then starts to talk about how he chose Riku saying to Sora "You aren't the one I chose." He then ends his talk by asking Sora if he is Xehanort. He then yells "Xehanort and fights Sora. If Sora still had Ven's heart Terra would recognize him as Ven instead of Vanitas easily being confused as Xehanort.

At TWTNW Sora absorbs Roxas and he actually knows it. The first time in TT he didn't know so it was almost treated as if it never happened to Sora.

Thoughts?

 

I just want to thank you real quick for not putting a spoiler in the first line.
anyways:

With you so far, but I thought it was called the Keyblade of ONE's Heart?
Either way, it was incomplete. It only had 6 out of 7 pure hearts. I don't understand why it didn't just absorb Kairi's heart instead of breaking apart into the other 6 hearts. I guess it's just because Sora wanted it that way.

I'm glad someone else understands this.

Well, if Roxas did have Ven's heart (which I think he does) he would have his memories. Or at least part of them. It's been said memories are in the heart, and yet Nobodies keep their memories without a heart.
Nobodies aren't born with the heart, they're born because of it. Technically, no Nobody would be born if it required the heart because said heart would be in Heartless.
But you're saying Roxas has a heart, but not Sora's so it makes sense.

Sora had Kairi's heart as well. He remembered Hollow Bastion (which I now think could be because of Ven) but he didn't remember all of her memories even though he had her heart. So it makes sense he wouldn't remember Ven's either. Not to mention the fact that CO makes you forget it. Sora could have recognized it and just forgot without knowing.

I don't think Terra would recognize him as Ven because Sora doesn't look like Ven, despite having his heart. Maybe if Sora was strong enough to recognize the heart in him, but who knows if that's possible.
Also, Terra, as the Lingering Sentiment, doesn't seem to be..all there if you get what I'm saying.

I'm not sure what you're saying here. Sora absorbed Roxas in TT but because he didn't know it, it's like it never happened?
In which case, Roxas still acted through Sora. He cried when he left TT, he knew Roxas' name, he could skateboard (I think), Dual Wield, etc.

 

What about the remaining organisation members in kh2 who said he looked like roxas?

 

I don't remember anyone saying Sora looked like Roxas.
I do remember Xigbar saying Roxas used to give him that same look, but that's because Roxas and Sora two sides of the same coin. Same personality, just exaggerated and angrier. So it's not too far-fetched to think that they would have the same expressions to convey their feelings.
Everyone else just knew that Roxas was in Sora, they didn't say "You look just like Roxas."
Then again, my memory may be faulty.

 

I don't think we necessarily know what happens with Ven's Darkness after the inner and outer battle. It actually seems that Vanitas is destroyed or expelled to me, but either way I believe it is unclear what happened.

I think the fact that Vanitas resembles KH2 Sora more indicates a previous connection between Ventus and Sora even before Sora restored Ventus' heart after having it broken after Vanitas removed from him. Vanitas is an incomplete being born after from Ventus after Sora's natural. I'm inclined to believe that Vanitas' appearance is influenced by Sora not the other way around. A few people on this forum have insisted the later which is ridiculous. Sora already pretty much looks like this at age 5. He was always gonna look the way he does from the time he was conceived. The only reason Vanitas looks like KH2 Sora is because Vanitas is the same AGE as Ventus which is apparently the same age Sora was in KH2 or near at least.

If Roxas has a heart than he is, by definition, not a Nobody. The reasons why Roxas and Namine don't have memories of their times as complete beings has already been clarified. Namine because she was born from Kairi's heart and Sora's body and soul. Roxas because Sora did not remain a Heartless.

Terra never ever saw Vanitas' face so it seems unlikely that he would recognize Sora from that. Aside from that Roxas had already rejoined Sora by that time anyway so I'm not really sure how the whole recognition thing plays out.

Roxas became one with Sora in Twilight Town. Whether or not Sora knows it happened is irrelevant. The battle with Roxas was an inner struggle that resulted in Roxas accepting his fate.

Nomura labeled the Keyblade Ansem SoD used in KH1 Keyblade of People's Hearts. Of the three types mentioned in the Xehanort reports one of the is called a Keyblade of One's Heart. There's probably a correlation but its unclear at this point. I don't the Keyblade of People's Hearts was designed to absorb hearts so there's no real reason why it should've absorbed Kairi's heart.