Kingdom Hearts II Roxas is so great because...?

I like Roxas, but at the same time I don't (hello, he's on my avatar). However, I do agree that he is an emo, but the only reason he probably is is because he wonders about why he has the keyblade and his exinstence. No one really answered him, not even Axel, really, so...maybe that's why he turned out emo? I don't know.

Bottom line (literally), Roxas is okay for what he is. He is selfish and emo, but I don't dislike him.

 

I hate the fact that he's emo but I like him,he's my favorite Kingdom Hearts character.
Besides,he has 2 keyblades AND he's part of Organization XIII.
Why hate him?
C:

 

He DID fell sorry about losing the money when he was going to the beach with his friends. The ice-cream melting was apparently trying to show that he was crying inside. Is that selfish to you?

As for Axel, he probably was trying to keep him out of trouble - the Organization decided to destroy Roxas because he left. If Axel had left too, wouldn't they go after him as well? As for Riku, he problably felt his hostile intentions and decide to defend himself. What's so bad about that?

And sorry if this sounds rude, but you sound very ignorant when saying that he's a wuss. He was just having a hard time trying to remember who he was. Everyone has difficult times, you know. You probably was never in a difficult situation - if you were, you wouldn't be calling others a wuss.

I like Roxas because I could feel his pain when I first played as him.

 

0.0 Wow. You must really dislike Roxas.
*Highfives* Finally someone who dispises (sp) him >;3
Sorry..I just dont like Roxas. Or jessie....Whatever his name is...

 

So you say you hate him so much that you can't even remember his own name? Interesting... I think... I don't know, I can't think of what his name is either.

 

This thread makes me laugh. It's utterly pathetic.

I cannot believe a response to a poll of all things has turned into a great big rant against Roxas. Get a life people.

Reason 1 - Roxas isn't selfish at all. The reason why he left the damn organization was to find out about Sora and then Riku and DiZ came and attacked him anyway, and threw him into a prison. No reasoning or explanation.

They then made him live a lie and then terminated it all. Yeah, he was mad alright. Imagine if someone came up to you without explaining anything and said your life meant nothing it was all an illusion and now your life has to end to so you can go back to this bloke called Sora and oh by the way your feelings don't matter anyway because you have no heart.

Reason 2 - *SPOILERS* of course he cared about his friends. The amount of times he calls 'Hayner, Pence, Olette!' when he was in trouble, how he was a well respected person in the virtual TT and used to help the citizens, how he ran after Namine and they promised they would meet again and how he and Axel where the only ones in the organization who even bothered to have a friendship. Also might I add to everyone that in FF+ Xehanort says that Roxas's appearance to Sora in TWTNW was triggered by Axel's death and Roxas and Axel get to have one last meeting together so don't say Roxas was never bothered about Axel because he was when you saw Sora lean down as if to say bye to Axel, Roxas was with him too because he is a part of Sora. Also Roxas was part of Sora when he was fighting the members of O13 and so he always worked towards Sora causes it was just Axel's death which made him have doubts.

Reason 3 - Yeah I would've thought a Riku fan would say that after all Riku was supposed to get the keyblade but Sora did. So if Sora deserved it so did Roxas. Riku was just jealous the same as he was with Sora like when Riku calls to Roxas 'Why do you have the keyblade?!' on Day 6. Of course he didn't trust Riku the boy was blindfolded he didn't even know who he was he'd already been deceived into doing things by Xehanort. Also it was Riku was under orders to get Roxas back to Sora and then he went so far as to harness the powers of darkness to do it.

You don't hate Roxas but you call him a 'annoying emo brat'? That's so mean!

 

I was more neutral towards Roxas.
I tend to obsess more over games, rather than the characters.

What I don't understand is why people hate characters in a video game.
I've heard things like, "I hate Kairi because she's in between Sora and me!"
That's just stupid.

Roxas was a little annoying, but he was a great contrast to Sora.
Roxas was more down, while Sora was always happy; Roxas was somewhat distant from others, but Sora was close with his friends.

I think SE did that purposely, since Roxas is basically the opposite of Sora.

 

Yeah, I agree with you. He doesn't even know the truth of his esistence for cryin' out loud! Plus, I did realize he felt terrible for losing the Munny they worked hard on, but on the other side, he did seem kind of happy when the Usual Spot Gang thought he was hanging out with Seifer's gang, too. He also felt sad about that, and went to get them ice cream when they said they were going to find out what's been happening around town. That kinda shows he sorta has a heart...

I also agree with you, too, he's-got-a-heart, even though he's the other half of Sora, SE purposely made him more down, although I can say to you personnally it seemed as though he was an emo, just I never said anything about him being a brat.

 

He remembers what emotions were. He doesn't have a physical heart.

Roxas seemed to suffer from severe memory loss though. 8D

And I would like to point out that we're all arguing about a non-existant game character. xD

 

Oh and a note to whichever mysterious fellow de-repped me saying 'Don't know about you, but THIS IS NOT A SORA THREAD':

Thanks for the caps lock but I am perfectly aware of the fact that this is not a Sora thread I was talking about Roxas.

So cheers for de-repping me for nothing. Argh, I've been de-repped 4 times today!

yeah lol ^_^

 

You're absolutely right; Roxas is a selfish Nobody. When I played the game, though, I felt that it wasn't "on purpose" selfishness. Remember, we don't know what happened to Roxas during the year he was with the Organization (yet), so there could be more clues as to why he seemed to be in tension with Axel when he left.

The clue I see, just from KHII, is "No one would miss me." Roxas obviously didn't feel accepted by the other Organization members. Maybe he used "Why did the Keyblade choose me? I have to know." as an excuse to leave a place where he didn't feel accepted. People IRL do this too, only not using an excuse of searching for Keyblades. XP

Roxas did care about his friends, technically. He felt really bad for loosing *their* money and ruining *their* beach day when they were going to go anyway. He doesn't have to "omgcling" to his friends to care about them. Roxas even volunteered to get ice cream after hearing they were going to help him search the town for the answers of the Dusks appearing.

I'm a fan of Roxas, and I *can* see the flaws in his character, but no one is perfect. A lot of fans like him for his imperfection. He's not "great" but he's not so insignificant, like a townie or anything.

 

1. Roxas left because he wanted to know more about himself. Remember, he is the only Organization member that had no memories of his past self, and he is the only one to have the keyblade, so his past was an important thing to know. Plus, remember that the Organization was just using him to get hearts from the heartless. Axel was the only thing keeping him tethered to the Organization, and as a Nobody, he couldn't really feel friendship. Plus, he is the nobody of Sora, who was full-of-himself to the extreme, so he had to have had a little bit of that personality.

2. As a nobody, Roxas can not truly feel the emotions tethered to friendship, and therefore cannot have a reaction to others' suffering unless he puts conscious thought to it. And the scene on the tower was meant to be about Roxas.

3. In case you didn't get it, Riku was sent out for the sole purpose of catching Roxas and sticking him in a digital world where all his actions and lifestyles were controlled by Ansem. When you've got Riku swinging a keyblade at you without giving a thought about how you'll end up you don't stop and ask him about the weather, you fight back. And sure Riku wasn't sure he was entirely with DiZ, but he knew that capturing Roxas would help Sora, and he was prepared to do whatever it took to do that. Riku talking to Roxas was more taunting than trying to find out info. And there isn't really anything special about him getting Oblivion from Roxas. Roxas chucked it up in the air and Riku grabbed it. What we get out of that is that Riku has better aim that Roxas.

Yes, you are correct he is an empty character. But he's a nobody. That's how he's supposed to be.

 

Everyone has made valid points, though I agree more with the following people's statements:

Rock-kun
he's-got-a-heart
Kaira
Lord Knight Xiron

It's just refreshing to move in a different direction when it's about a character who has a strong connection with another character. It's like someone mentioned earlier - they are the opposites of each other. I just like Roxas more since he's closer to have a..... normal personality. He's not an idiot either obviously, though both him and Sora have the abillity to become very curious of the unknown. (who isn't curious? really) I'd probably get more annoyed at him had not Seifer's gang been in Twilight Town - they are far more annoying than Roxas ever was, honestly! Wanted to be superior and pick a fight all the frikkin time. Had it been possible to hurt that gang outside of a struggle battle you bet I would do that everytime I met them.

Just to sum up my post - I like Roxas for being the more serious part of Sora's personality. I mean, even Goofy's more serious than Sora sometimes but that's just the way it is.

 

Oh...Okay...

And by the way...I didn't know he was non-existant! *Sarcasmally ******ed face*

 

Ya know, someone de-repped me too for causing 'another boring debate'. I find that amusing. Your post was fine, and the point of the forum here is to discuss things, so someone seemed to have their fingers a bit busy on the de-rep button, but ah well. Let them be. It'd be nice if they'd actually say who they were too, but that's too much to ask. lol. Going to quote segments of people's stuff to respond instead of whole ones to save space.

Don't forget that it's Roxas actually who attacked Riku first tossing Oblivion at him and he did not just toss it to him friendly-like. He meant to send it at him to hit him. Riku caught it. Also, Riku was not sure what he wanted to do. Of course, that's not to say Roxas didn't have a reason to be annoyed, but he knew nothing of DiZ or Riku's plans. Riku was not taunting Roxas. He was looking to see if Roxas was indeed part of Sora by a test which he confirmed that much at least was true of what DiZ said.

Seifer was always kind of annoying but in KH I liked him more than in FF8 because at least he did something good later on in the game and showed he was redeemable. I hear your point, and someone else's, that Roxas was better than him, definitely, though. It would have been cool to beat him up outside of the sandlot.

The point in #2 there is that Roxas didn't even realize what was going on. His memories of the Org time were taken away and Namine planted new ones in his head to accept the life he now had, including friends etc. He didn't make friends on his own and he was known by memory and the 'people' that he was normally a -good kid- who was helpful. Axel was dragged around trying to do things for Roxas and -no- Roxas was not guilty about it, happy about it, or anything. He was self-absorbed and even when they talk on the tower, it's 'Axel' who sheds the tear...not Roxas. Look at the angle as it goes down. It was on the left side, where Axel was sitting.

Reason 3 - Riku was the intended Keyblade wielder that got duped into doing some bad things but in the end do you remember -why- he did them? He did them for his friends mostly, even as he felt he was sold out. He was desperate to save Kairi and believed Sora was messing around and not taking the scene serious. He was panicking. Roxas also had no knowledge of Riku's past at all. Nor did he know who Riku even was. Also, when Riku said 'why do you have a Keyblade?" he wasn't jealous. He was surprised and shocked and anyone could tell that. Riku did his wrong things, sure, but Roxas's were all done -for himself-, whereas Riku's were done, paved with good intentions, but he was on the road to Hell any way. If I had to depend on someone realistically to have my back, it'd be Riku any day. At least I know he'd care and would sacrifice to do so, unlike Roxas.

You are someone that is a true fan of a character in a way because you see past stuff and can note a character's flaws who you think still is cool. That's awesome. I love to analyze each character and see the good and the bad stuff. It makes them more than a 2d stereotypical blah character.

Anyways, I would apologize to those who are Roxas fans and really took this to heart in a nasty way and even gave people negative rep for commenting here. I don't see Sora fans doing that, or Riku fans etc. But oh well, that's how it goes. It was meant as a discussion, not as somewhere to hurt anyone's feelings or to get others punished for speaking their minds. Someone brought up it's a fictional game character. It would be nice if we could discuss this then without harming others for opinions, because YES, it is a game character. If someone says they hate a game character or love a game character, what's it to someone else? Lighten up, please.

 

Roxas is great cause he can weild 2 swords and he's cooler then sora

 

I am pretty sure it's not a big of a deal to let Sora weild two Keyblades without using Drive. Didn't you guys remember how Sora used Riku's Keyblade and his own in the Final Xemnas battle? Oh.. and I'm pretty sure Drive Forms are just a feature added to the game to make it more interesting.

So in other words, Sora can wield two Keyblades, but sometimes wielding two swords will leave you many openings.

 

Well,i don't think roxas was that bad.For a strange reason,i think he was kinda cool.Maybe it was because he carries my 2 fave keyblades...Hmm...

 

Roxas can wield 2 swords because Sora was trained in two-handed fighting. I seriously doubt he could do anything in that regards had Sora not known how. Riku's fighting style reveals pretty well he could -easily- two-hand fight, especially since sometimes he has his weapon switch hands. Sora learned from Riku mostly how to fight. Seems to me that he would know this. It also makes no sense to think Roxas could but Sora could not.

 

Hehe I know lol how can people say that he didn't deserve the keyblade when he got two? He's one cool dude!