Kingdom Hearts II Roxa and an older Norty?!

ok. please tell me i'm not going insane.....


why does the short one look exactly like roxas? *not sure that it's sora, the iced one has the exact same hair style as roxas, and tetsu said in his interveiw that sora wasn't dead yet...* TT_TT whyyyy???????



and the beared bald guy: defiantly Xehanort. much older with a beard... *shudders* but defiantly xehanort... orange eyes and the same jacket he was wearing from KH1 - the heartless insignia



ahhhh!!!

 

I'm not sure about the old guy being Xehanort, but I agree...it does look eerily like Roxas.

 

well i dunno about the old guy at first i thought he was xehanort but this guy has a creepy ice power which is somewhat kinda like vexen...ofcourse i always thought vexen was alot like xehanort but i think thats preety absurd....

but this ice power is preety strange and then their is that guys power over lightning....

wait when i think about it i saw alot of elements being used in that vid.

ice....wind....earth

and these guys know how to run....but that guy that looks like roxas now that is creepy could this be how he dies maybe this is wear the nobodys live but i dunno i think its really strange that he would use a roxas look alike.

i think to be honest the answer lies in mickey. why?

micky is weilding the key shooting star which is give to sora by yensid which as we know is mickeys mentor so could this be in the past during mickeys training period ???

i belive this to be true as its the only clue we have at the moment unless there is some strange dialogue between sora and the AU when they battle in the game.

infact the battle between sora and the au takes place in the desert so i would like to know how they get there and also this must mean they have some knowledge of sora so no doubt the AU's will bring sora up.......

so if this takes place in the past then the AU must be a sort of time traveller which wouldnt suprise me.

i would like to get a better look a the keyblade that the old guy uses it had a chain so if someone could get still pictures of the chain that would be good ... it could hold a clue.

bye

 

That must be Roxas. Maybe Roxas is fighting there while Sora was sleeping?

Methol about that lighting element...the female knight haves the lighting element, and the guy with the heartless-like-suite has no elements bieng used. Then we have wind....well sorry but it must be water since the bald guy was using it to freeze his openents. Then we have earth. It's not really earth but what the bald guy is throwing at the knights are keyblades. If you look closely you will see keyblades bieng thrown at the knights.


The answer must lie on Mickey since Mickey IS the King and knows where the battle took place. I bilieve this happend while Sora was sleeping in The Mansion.

 

ok... We all agree that looks like roxas. And soe agree that shiny (the bald guy) has all org 13 powers and is wearing a heartless coat. Now remember back to kh2 when roxas draws the piccy. that is the chasers symbol i beleive. I also beleive that a chaser is a keyblade weilder. And the bad guy is xehanort in his final form (that of xemnas, his heartless and the chaser he once was.)

 

The bald guy is only using the water element guys. Roxas drew Sora's crown in Kh2 not the symbol of them.

 

It looks like Roxas, but Normura's characters always look similar, spikey hair etc. And since it's the same animation style, characters are going to look likely because Normura has no originality when it comes to character designs.

 

But if you look closely to the left of the hair of the Roxas-Look-Alike you will see spikey hair there. And if you look in top of his forehead you will see the hair coming down like Sora's hair wich means that is Roxas. If the Roxas-Look-Alike had died you would've seened a heart. But since Roxas is a nobody he doesn't have one so he is not dead. Nomura did say that some characters were new but not all of them.

 

Like i said, all of Normura's main characters have spikey hair. Though it does look alot of Roxas, i'm just saying that Normura isn't the most original when it comes to character design.

 

and the blind folded guy looked a lot like riku, and the BHB was unmistakably a new character until Roxas's information was released.:D

*don't mind my sarcasim...*
*dies*

yeah, i'll try to get a freeze frame of his keyblade... him making the copy of himself could just be a younger looking Xehanort underneath the helm... Maybe that was just Xehanort to begin with... a copy of the old guy who landed himself in Hollow Bastion. After all if you anagram Xehanort's name you get 'Another'

as far as the elements go, i figured the old man's power was just a collaboration of the elements combined (like how xemnas could use and summon all of the powers/nobodies in the last battle with him on top of his Dragon ship thing...)
maybe it's just the same thing. *shrugs* because he's the ultimate figure head *of this new opposing force* he gets all the greatness of dark powers combined.

 

Check out my thread if you want to see my theories on the two:
http://www.kh-vids.net/showthread.php?t=7941

 

I disagree that the old guy is Xehanort, I think the brown haired guy is.



His eyes turn yellow, so you have that covered...

The one guy does look like Roxas, but I don't think he is exactly.

 

true. they have the same hair style *a bit on the short side, but the same*
does this mean that Xeha has a good side then? ><

 

I think that's him before he loses his memory.

 

There entire subject has me so confused. XD

I think the old guy is Xehanort before his memories were erased, actually. And I think the chasers might be from different times. So maybe that's why ?Roxas? could be there?

Although the Roxas look a like looks very much like Roxas, I don't think it is for some reason. There's just something telling me it's not him. Maybe it's the fact that he's dying so easily? XDD

 

I don't think he's Roxas, and he's not dead yet.

I still say the old guy ISN'T Xehanort. There is no proof besides a similar costume, and if similar costume made it the same person all of Organization XIII would be clones.

 

yeah actually i kinda agree he does look alot like xehanort but then again im not sure...................

sora fights this guy in kh2:fm+ so would this mean we thought xehanort and if so then that would mean he is a time traveller.

and that would mean that hes alive while his heartless and shell are destryed which would create a paradox kinda wouldnt it lol confusing ill figure it out later arggh kenai

 

Hmmm...I doubt that is Roxas and I don't believe that blonde-haired soldier is dead either and yes I may have proof.

After viewing the Secret Video several times I noticed when the female soldier holds in the frozen soldier in her arms, when the camera zooms on his face..if you look closely at his eyes at the last second before the next frame, they look like they move towards the female

Edit: My bad if someone already found that out, cause I just realized it after 183 times of viewing the vid.

 

ok so what do you people think of this...
when you actually look at the eyes they look exactly like sora's eye brows isnt that kinda true when his helmet broke u see the exact same eyes you see in the intro of KHII

 

yeah... your right. and his head is trued towards her in the wide panel view of them when the clouds open up.

he's probably not dead, maybe just frozen in a perpetual state. *grr* i wish we had more info then this.

still, i'm not sold that the old guy isn't Xehanort. if you look at Xehanort's heartless and him side by side, they look extremely alike, as far as facial features and the eyes. and then again, why would Xeha become evil if he was originally a chaser and one of the 'good guys'

*just a thought* but maybe something could of happened between the old guy and the brown haired guy, and they fussed into one person when their powers collided in the battle for Kingdom hearts (?) thus a silver haired version of the brown haired chaser, with an absence of memory and lust for the darkness