Kingdom Hearts II RikuNotRikku's Complete Theory of what's to come *Major Spoilers*

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This theory was developed through theorizing with others for about a month. I’m sorry it is so long. I had to make sure I covered everything and gave sufficient proof. I give shout outs to anyone I theorized with, since you have all helped me develop this theory. I have split it up into 3 main parts and those parts into sub-parts for an easier read. Please comment to help develop this theory even more! I would actually like you to be as critical as possible.

Table of Contents:
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1. About Xehanort

1 a) The Es is Xehanort.
1 b) Xehanort doesn’t have to hate himself
1 c) Xehanort’s “Heartlessâ€


2. Birth by Sleep

2 a) Intro
2 b) Room of Sleep
2 c) The room of Awakening


3. Worlds and Time

3 a) Memory of a nobody
3 b) Worlds are like people
3 c) Time: the past.

4. References



1. About Xehanort

1 a) The Es is Xehanort.

This theory consists of the tall, dark haired knight (Larry) being Xehanort. Since a lot of people don't agree, I will briefly try to prove it. First of all, if you compare pictures of the knight and Xehanort (not Xehanort's heartless) similarities become very evident. They have the same unique chin that points up slightly, same eyebrows, and a similar hair style. It is (as we all know) possible to change one's hairstyle over time, which could account for the small differences.

Although it was announced that the knights are all-new characters, it could still be Xehanort. His persona from before he lost his memory could be considered a 'different character.' That’s how Nomura likes to mess with our heads.

One big argument is that there hair color isn't even the same, and he is not old. First of all, he could be old. We don't how long he was with Ansem the Wise. Secondly, severe trauma can cause hair to white prematurely, and also memory loss, for that matter.

There are a lot of things indicating that he has something to do with the keyblade wars. Firstly, during Xigbar and Zexion's conversation in Fm+, Xigbar states that there is a direct connection between the end of the keyblade war and a memoriless man being found by Ansem the Wise. Xemnas makes several comments as if he knew stuff about the keyblade. An example would be, "Ah, The keyblade, such a marvelous weapon. If only it were in more...capable hands. (Cue evil laughter)" He called the armor (which belonged to aqua) his "old friend" meaning he (well, Xehanort) knew her personally. And finally, his eyes turn orange at the end of the video, signifying that he gave into the darkness.

Orange eyes are the result of using the darkness too much, although it doesn’t affect those without hearts. Ansem the Wise had blue eyes, but then after he uses the dark portals too much, his eyes turned orange. A lot of the members of Organization XIII have orange eyes, but that’s because their others flaunted the darkness before they became heartless. Since the nobodies have their other’s former bodies, they have their eyes.


As suggested by Kanji from the kh-vids.net forums, Riku wore a blindfold for a while, probably to hide his orange eyes. Mickey said he wore the blindfold because, "His eyes couldn't lie." This means that by looking into Riku's eyes, you can see he has been playing around with the darkness. We also see a color change in the ES, proving that there are circumstances were one's eyes change color.

The reason I call them Orange eyes, is because they can vary from a dim orange (yellow) to a deep orange (goldish-colour), depending on how much one has used the darkness.

The facial features are too similar to ignore, especially since he gets the orange eyes at the end of the video.

1 b) Xehanort doesn’t have to hate himself

Then there is the enigmatic solder as a secret boss in Fm+. The armor looks similar to Larry's, (the only differences, pointed out by Boywithhair on the Playstation.com boards, are probably due to the fact that one is in Cg, while the other isn't) but many people don't think Larry and Xehanort could be the same person because of the things he says:

“Aqua… Ven… Keyblade… who are you? I can feel it… we have met before… it was when… No… it isn’t you… It isn’t you that I have chosen… Why is it not him… Xe… ha… nort… is that you? Xeha… nort… Xehanort!"

When you come back for a rematch, he says how much he hates Xehanort.

However, that is not necessarily true. I think they made it make little sense purposely, so people would just ignore the possibility of them being the same person.

I believe that Sora fights Larry is in the past, the distant past, even. I think this because the way you get to the boss is through a big swirling vortex that could potentially be a time warp. Additionally, since it is in Mickey's basement, we can assume that it way used by him to go back in time to get involved in/witness the fight, possibly as instructed by Yen Sid while he was still his apprentice (explains the Star Seeker keyblade (Sora was given the star seeker by Yen Sid, so it looks like he gave it to Mickey by him too, during his training))

It is not so hard to think that Mickey has a portal to the past in his basement, since he has that door that leads to that black and white past world.

So, based on all of that, I theorize this:

Originally, Larry was not Xehanort. He could have been called Larry, for all we know. In fact he hated someone else named Xehanort, possibly baldy. This Xehanort was originally a partner of Ansem the wise. He leaves Ansem, and then he then finds the chasers (The knights) and possibly trains them.

During the video, there are instances that indicate that the chasers had a past relationship with Baldy. When Baldy is holding Ven by the helmet, it appears as if he is just torturing him by letting him squirm. However, if you look at Baldy's face when it zooms into his face, you can see that he looks like he's lamenting, almost regretful. Then he smiles a crooked smile and drops him off a cliff. He smiles almost all through the video, and normally, he would be all smiles after pulling off such an awesome move like that without even looking back, but he isn't. Even his smile before he dropped Ven off the cliff was much smaller than usual, indicating that it is forced. He also hesitates before dropping him. Additionally, when he saw Baldy, he started to run forwards, but was held back by Larry.

Eventually, he leaves them to open Kingdom Hearts or whatever, and Larry and the Chasers need to stop him. This would explain Larry's hatred toward "Xehanort" since he had betrayed them. Due to a traumatic event, possibly what comes after in the video, he loses his memory and his hair turns white prematurely. He is then found by Ansem the Wise, who does one of two things:

He mistakes him for the original Xehanort(It is possible that baldy wasn't bald when he left) and tells him that’s who he is

Missing having a companion, (He doesn’t have any since his other apprentices came after Xehanort)he names him after Xehanort. It is ironic that he should be named after the one he hated so much, but this can signify a number of things on the symbolic level.

Although Xehanort without the 'x' is an anagram for 'no heart,' it is also an anagram of 'another,' signifying that there was one before him.(also, Xemnas' computer password at the beginning of the “Room of Sleep†scene was 'another')

Since he eventually becomes a heartless, he 'lives up to his name.'

1 c) Xehanort’s “Heartlessâ€

I am starting to think that Xehanort's heartless, was not a heartless after all. He did turn into a heartless, therefore creating Xemnas, but then he turned back without knowing it. This is why he could still think and plan.

There are a couple of things that make me think this. First of all Nomura suggests in "another report XIII" (referrenced below) that Xemnas is possibly a 'special nobody,' like Roxas and Naminé. A special nobody just means a nobody that was born in an irregular way. Also, in CoM, Axel says that Sora was only the second person to return to his body after creating a nobody. This implies that one of the other members is a special nobody.

Axel couldn't have been referring to Kairi. I can't remember if he actually said after creating a heartless or nobody, but either way, Kairi has no heartless, and technically, no nobody.

Ok, it’s kind of hard to explain, but its true. Naminé is actually NOT a nobody. If you don't believe me, read the secret Ansem reports again. (Pages 9 and 10)

Normally, a heart leaves the body and becomes a heartless; the body goes to the realm of in-between and becomes a nobody. Naminé was created when Kairi's heart left Sora's body, so Kairi's body never actually left to the realm of in-between. However, Naminé was still created as a sort of 'proof of losing her heart.' Naminé is not a nobody, because she lacks the very essence of what a nobody is: their other's soul and body. Notice how she is very plain? She is, in essence, part of Kairi, but she isn't a nobody. Since she lacks Kairi's body, she also lacks her memories. She is a very unstable 'being.'

A nobody is a body and soul. Naminé is not a body and soul. She is therefore not a nobody.

Therefore, he couldn't be referring to Kairi, since she had nether a heartless or a nobody.


2. Birth by Sleep

2 a) Intro

Birth by sleep could mean a number of things. It could mean the birth of Xehanort as Ansem's apprentice through the loss of memory (or "sleep") of whoever he was before. It would be considered 'sleep' and not 'death' of this persona, since forgotten memories can be remembered again, thus 'waking up' his past self. It could refer to the birth of a nobody, or many other things, but I believe it is something new, since it appeared in the secret videos of Kh2.

2 b) Room of Sleep

I believe that the room of sleep is able to put a nobodies' current self to sleep, to temporarily access his past self in a more vivid way than just remembering.

There are many things that make me think this. Early in the Xigbar and Zexion conversation scene (referenced below) Vexen says something along the lines of, "What is he doing sleeping at a time like this?" This implies that he is actually ‘sleeping’ to some degree. Vexen is a scientist type, so he would know how to room works. He couldn't resist finding out. Also, if he was just referring to activity in the room of sleep as sleeping, that would be a pun, and Vexen is not one to make jokes, especially when upset.

Secondly, the First thing Xigbar says to Zexion a little later in that scene is, "I not too good in that place. How 'bout you Mister Zexion?" The room of sleep is not confidential to Xemnas, other Members of the Organization can use it too. It seems, however, it is not as big of a draw to the other members. They can still remember their pasts, though not as vividly as in the room of sleep. Xemnas uses it so much, because he normally can't remember his past at all.

And finally, when Xemnas goes into the room of sleep(scene referenced below), he presses something and the room 'turns on,' indicating that it's not just a room with a chair and some armor in it. The markings on the wall are those of a nobody, meaning it was made by or is used for nobodies (or possible both). The room of sleep is not even in TWTNW, but in Hollow Bastion, so it is not just because it is in the Castle that Never was, because it's not.

My guess is that when a nobody is in The Room of sleep, it is almost as if they have a heart. Some would be repulsed by the fact that it is only an illusion, though Xemnas, not remembering how it feels to have a heart (as he stated before that dragon thing comes around during the last boss) would be compelled to make this Room, and use it. Xigbar did say that the room of awakening was the one not built by Xemnas, implying he was the one the build the ‘Room of Sleep’.

2 c) The room of Awakening

It may seem that the ‘Room of Awakening’ is in Castle Oblivion, already made by someone else. This is not necessarily the case. I find it hard to believe that after 6 members living there for a few months that they were simply ‘unable to find it.’ As stated in the “secret director’s interview,†(referenced below) the Organization did many experiments on memory using Naminé. Perhaps all they were told was that they were experiments “for better understanding the heart,†but the true objective of Castle Oblivion was to get the information to build the room of awakening. Although it was originally thought that Castle Oblivion had the room of awakening in it, it could be that it was required to make it.

Naminé was important to the organization because of her influence on memory. Xemnas needed her to make the room of awakening. However, Marluxia betrayed him, and tried to use her to overthrow the organization. After the events of Castle Oblivion, Naminé escaped the clutches of the organization and went on to repair Sora's memory. Being no longer able to gather information on the room of awakening, Xemnas came up with his "use Kingdom Hearts" plan.

Yet it is also possible that he was able to build the “Room of Awakening.†It could have something to do with the fact that hearts released from heartless went to their Kingdom Hearts, since (as Nomura states in the interview below) it is peculiar for that to happen. Usually, the heart returns to the body, and in the case of a nobody being created, the heart remains suspended until the nobody is defeated, then the nobody joins with their hearts. If a nobody is defeated before their hearts are released from their heartless, then the nobody plunges into darkness. Somehow, they are able to collect hearts after they are released. Since we don’t know how they did this, it is possible it has something to do with the room of awakening.


3. Worlds and Time

3 a) Memory of a nobody

In CoM we are lead to believe that the memories are stored in the heart, because things Naminé says. However, since Nobodies have memory, it would seem to be in the body or soul. Alternatively, Reiyyan from the Kingdomhearts3.org boards suggests that nobodies, may have some connection to their hearts to be able to access their memories. This makes sense since ‘special nobodies’ usually have problems with memory. Because the heart is in their other’s body, they could somehow loose access to their memories.

3 b) Worlds are like people

Also, since a world is like a person, (with a body, soul, and heart) is it not possible for worlds to have nobodies, too? When the stars flicker out, that would be like them turning into a "heartless," and perhaps "The end of the World" that Sora visits in Kh1 is an example of a heartless world.

Nobody worlds would be in the realm of 'in-between,' like Twilight town, Castle Oblivion, Yen Sid’s Tower, Dark Coastline etc…

I think that the Dark Coastline, where Riku and Sora are at the end of KH2, could be the nobody world of destiny islands. That would explain why they found the bottle there, since nobodies are connected with their others. Riku even said, “At least the waves sound the same.†This illustrates a connection between the two worlds.

In The Secret report XIII, Nomura says that the dark coastline contains the boarder of the dark realm, and the sea is the beginning of the realm of Darkness. However, it was not necessarily always there.

3 c) Time: the past.

There are many things that lead me to believe the Fm+ Secret video took place in the past and not the future.

First of all, Mickey appears at the end and with the star seeker key blade. Mickey probably got the keyblade from Yen Sid. Since Yen Sid gave Sora this keychain, it seems, since Mickey was his apprentice, that Yen Sid gave Mickey it while he was training him. After he got the keyblade from the dark realm he gave it back. This points to it being in the past.

It seemed that he was just observing the battle, possibly as told by Yen Sid. When Sora goes to fight the Enigmatic Soldier, it is through a portal in Mickey's basement. Mickey could have used that same portal to get there. It wouldn’t make sense for it to be in the future since Sora currently owns this keychain.

There are a lot of people who argue that it was announced that the secret video is in the future. This misinterpretation is from an interview. In a summary of the interview (referenced below), it was said that "The secret movie is connected to what is coming in the future! (Let the theories begin!) Nomura says it would be a shame if you miss out on it.�

By 'coming up in the future' I'm pretty sure it's talking about our future. As in when the next game comes out. Meaning 'the secret video is connected to the next game that's coming out."

Even if it was referring to the game, what happens in the past is connected to what happens in the future. Therefore, it was never announced that the secret video is in the future.

Also, There is a line in the first Ansem reports that says †One legend says its wielder [of the keyblade] saved the world, while another says that he wrought chaos and ruin upon it." So it must have been a legend by then. When it put it in the video, I think it was meant to say that 'this is the legend.' If it is a legend by the time this was written, it means it takes place in the past.

Furthermore, Xemnas refers to Aqua’s armor as his ‘old friend.’ Whatever the reason is for this is irrelevant at this point. It couldn’t have taken place in the future, or Xemnas wouldn’t know who she was.

Also, the legend that Kairi’s grandmother speaks of in Kh1 could possibly be referring to the Keyblade war.

Lastly, in Kh1, King Trident regarded the keyblade as evil. It was as if he heard the legend of the wielder bringing ruin upon the world.

4. References

Secret Report XIII:
http://www.kingdomhearts3.net/another-report/pages-26-27

Xigbar and Zexion’s conversation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD_recdbNkg

Xemnas in the ‘room of sleep’ scene:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FCTPZ1qjBE&mode=related&search=

Summery of interview that says the video is connected to what is coming in the future:
http://www.kingdomhearts3.org/showthread.php?t=2331

 

Hm, I'm going to have to say that this is well thought out.

A few things I'd like to add are pretty minor, but I suppose whatever information gathered is useful.

As for Namine, I've often said that her connection to memories, and her appearance are because of Sora's memories about Kairi. It would easily make sense, as Namine was created when Kairi's heart left Sora. Not only that, but Kairi's heart mingled with Sora's, for most of KH1. When Sora turned into a heartless, it can also be theorized that something from Kairi's heart left her, and also explain why Namine was able to become one with Kairi. Something left Kairi's heart, perhaps her memories of Sora (seeing as how in the beginning of KH2 Kairi talked about people she couldn't remember) and Namine, having inherited those memories and the memories of Sora, gave her access into the memories of others.

As for worlds and their hearts, I do believe this is true. Though, the End of the World, has no heart. It is a collection of worlds, thrown together, much like Traverse Town, but it doesn't have a heart of its own. It can't, since The End of the World leads to the door of Kingdom Hearts.
This would mean that End of the World is more a nobody world, with Traverse Town being more the heartless world. Minuscule, I know, but information is information.

As for Xehanort, and all that, I still believe that it was the bald man who possesses the Mysterious Soldier. Yes, Mysterious, not Enigmatic, as this is the name he's given in KH2FM+. This would explain why after Xehanort loses his heart, his heartless takes on the appearance of the bald man, while still holding some similarities to the Mysterious Soldier.

What gets me more than anything, though, is the use of Keyblades. We can conclude that Xehanort is one of the two people in the trailers. Yet Xemnas doesn't once use a Keyblade. Though, if you think back to KH1, Riku possessed by Ansem DID wield a Keyblade.
The Keyblade which opened the heart to darkness was one that Riku couldn't have made, nor could have anyone other than X's Heartless.
This leads me to believe that Xemnas has no memories of anything before his apprenticeship to Ansem the Wise, whereas his heartless had no memories of anything after the Keyblade War. This would explain why the heartless was after the power of darkness, and Xemnas was after memories. They each held pieces of one whole, seeking the same thing, but for different purposes.

One final theory is the idea of Kingdom Hearts.
I believe that there are two different Kingdom Hearts, if not more than that. In KH1, Ansem (for the purposes of this discussion, it's Ansem and Xemnas) sought to destroy as many worlds as possible. But he didn't have need of their hearts, just their bodies. In a sense, Ansem needed to destroy enough worlds to build a bridge of nothingness through the Realm of Darkness, to the door which leads to Kingdom Hearts.
Now this Kingdom Hearts that Ansem was after was the heart of everything. In other words, it's the main source of light in all of the universe, the Kingdom Hearts which births more hearts. This is what I call the Main Kingdom Hearts, and it never disappears.

Xemnas, on the other hand, was after a Kingdom Hearts he could build. This confused me for a while, since Kingdom Hearts is supposed to be the heart of everything, and yet it requires hearts to build?
This would mean that Xemnas was actually after a secondary, or Artificial Kingdom Hearts, which he could harness the power of. This Kingdom Hearts is one that is built by many hearts, and has a one-use limit.

This helps to solidify the memory theory above, as X's Heartless would be after the original Kingdom Hearts, just as the bald man was, where as Xemnas is after a fake Kingdom Hearts, one he stumbled upon while experimenting with hearts as Ansem's apprentice.

It gives a decent amount to think about.

 

Personnally, about keyblades, I think that you need a heart to use a keyblade. This is why Xemnas did not use a keyblade, since he was a Nobody. On the other hand, Roxas was linked to Sora's heart, which is why he could use Oblivion and Oathkeeper.

 

Ok, to start off, I will say that a lot of what you say makes sense, but I will point out a few things.

I agree with most of what you're saying about Naminé, she is probably a piece of Kairi's heart, but she can't be her memories of Sora. She remembered him for the remainder of the game, everyone else forgot him too, and she remembered him before she fused with Naminé again.

The possession theories do make sense, but the specifics are always hard to pin down. Personally, I like to not use the possession theory since they can be so inaccurate. I think the clothes can symbolize the connection between the two named Xehanort.

As for the Keyblades, I've talked about that with people before. We decided, as Kanji said above, that you need a heart to wield a keyblade. Roxas' other is still alive and technacly still has a heart. Also, Nomura said in Secret Report XIII that Xemnas is the reason Roxas and Sora can wield two keyblades. I think Xemnas, unable to wield the keyblade, gave Roxas his power to wield the keyblade. Since Sora and Roxas are connected, Sora can also wield two keyblades.

The two kingdom hearts thing always confused me. One thing I'd like to add is that In secret report XIII, Nomura says that if a nobody is killed before its heart is freed from the heartless, the nobody is plunged into darkness. But he didn't say what happens to a heart if it is freed after its nobody has already been slain. Those hearts could be possibly the ones that weave together to form Xemnas' Kingdom hearts

 

I hadn't seen that thing about the dual weilding...weird.

About the two Kingdom Hearts, one is formed from the hearts of worlds, the other from the hearts of people. The Organization's was apparently an artificial one, created from the hearts that were freed from darkness by the keyblade. The Report said that a heart freed from darkness returns to its homeworld and waits for his body and mind to return, and they do once the nobody to that heart is slain. I suppose that if the nobody has already been slain, the heart will keep on waiting, or maybe will join the natural Kingdom Hearts of people's hearts.

That leads to something I never quite understood : the Organization's Kingdom Hearts was a fake. But what about the one Ansem sought ? Was it also an artificial one, made from the hearts of the worlds, or was it a natural Kingdom Hearts, from which all worlds are created ? Is there even a natural Kingdom Hearts, and is there also one for the people's hearts and one for the world's hearts. If I missed the answer to that one in the Secret Report, I'd like someone to let me know.

 

I really don't know what is up with Kingdom hearts and if the other one was fake or not. I don't think you missed the answer, it just wasn't there.

In secret report XIII or somewhere, Nomura said that Ansem, seeker of Darkness went around capturing worlds with the heartless. Kingdom hearts of worlds was one of them. This leans towards that kingdom hearts being real.

This is how I explain Kingdom hearts of worlds: The heart of each world is the culmination of all things living in that world. Kingdom hearts of worlds is the culmination of the world's hearts. This is why it is called "the heart of all worlds."

As for the Kingdom hearts of Man, it seems to me that when a heart is relised from a heartless, and that heart's body became a nobody, the heart waits in suspension, but it doesn't say were.

It seems to me that the kingdom heart of man is not artifical, yet doesn't occour natrally. When large amounts of hearts are brought together, it seems that is in their nature to join together and form a large heart, like the kingdom hearts of worlds.

It seems that the organization was warping hearts using the darkness into TWTNW, were they joined together. There are a few reasons I think they used the darkness to gather the hearts. First of all, one time it shows hearts rising up and they are engulfed by darkness and dissipear. Also, when you beat the cursed boss with the medallions, the second time through Port Royal, the boss' heart goes towards Luxord's hand, and he makes it disappear in darkness. This shows that it is all the organization’s doing, and doesn't naturally happen.

Xaldin said, in Beast's castle, something like, "Only when Kingdom hearts is complete will can we truly, finally exist. We always knew it was part of their plan to become whole again, but it was always unclear how.


I will expand on possible ways they planed to use kingdom hearts later, but I have to go now.

Btw, should be bring this topic to a new thread, since it is off topic? Therefore, people who want to talk about it would be able to find it.

 

You should probably make a new topic, because I don't think we're done talking about those questions on Kingdom Hearts.

 

"Orange eyes are the result of using the darkness too much, although it doesn’t affect those without hearts."

But in Deep Dive, Roxas' eyes shine after he uses a portal of darkness. This would suggest that anytime you use darkness, your eyes will change temporarily. Terra's eye color change could be impermanent.

I'd like to ask (and this isn't a challenge) where is Ansem the Wise's eyes shown as blue? I've only seen KH2 (not FM+) where he has orange eyes, even when he talks to Mickey. It's a little discouraging, because it means the experiments with darkness had already gotten pretty deep by the time he meets Mickey.

Where did we learn that Xehanort was a partner of Ansem the Wise?

I had wondered why Roxas could weild two keyblades. I like your theory about Xemnas giving him the power to weild Xehanort's keyblade.

 

The yellow eyes may be an inevitable physical sign : the really bad consequence is the impact of darkness on the heart. Nobodies may have orange eyes because they use darkness a lot, but it's only affecting their bodies, not their hearts, obviously.

Are you really asking this ? In the game, it was revealed by the King and by a flashback that Xehanort was Ansem's apprentice.

I've checked the flashback conversation between Mickey and Ansem...and I can't say if his eyes are orange or brown. Even when you're close to his face, you can't be certain : at least I can say that if they were orange, they weren't as orange as they were when we saw him as DiZ (that was one weird statement...).

 

This is the part I was questioning. I'm not asking about Xehanort who lost his memories and was Ansem's apprentice, but Xehanort who "was originally a partner of Ansem the wise" and could have been Baldy.

When I originally read this, it sounded like RikuNotRikku was refering to the game, not just speculating. I got excited because it could open up more possibilites. :p

 

Good point about Roxas in deep dive. Yes, it seems to effect a nobody's body and it seems it isn't permenent the first few times.

Hmm, You know, I heard they were blue, but they may not have been. I think a good place to check would be that picture that apears on the computer after you do the tron level.

Ya, all that stuff I said about the other Xehanort being his parter is speculation. but some of the info from the interview suports what I said.

"Master Xehanort's avenger, his name is Terra."

After he leaves Ansem the wise, I said that he goes to train the chasers.

Xehanort (as we know him) was never considered a master by anyone. Ansem the Wise was his master. Even when he got rid of Ansem the wise and bossed people around, he had already stolen Ansem's name.

Therefore, Master Xehanort would be refering to Baldy. If he was training Terra, he could be considered an avenger (Since this was probably translated from Japenese before it was put into code, avenger shouldn't be talken too literally)
of him.

 

With this "Master Xehanort's avenger, his name is Terra.", I'm seriously beginnin to consider this idea of Baldy being the knights' teacher...However, when it says avenger, maybe it was mistranslated and should be understood that Terra is seeking to exact revenge on Baldy : if you consider that Baldy is Xehanort in some way, it's coherent, since Terra said he hated Xehanort.

 

Ya, It all begining to come together...

 

Thanks for the repy. I'll check that out next time I play through there. The code from TGS 2006! Yeah, if Baldy had been their teacher, Terra's attitude towards Baldy could have been anger at the betryal. And you also suggested that Baldy's reaction/regret to harming Ven suggests that he could have been the boy's teacher.

 

Exactly. It would explain why he fights with so much rage in the video.