revolting, yet... resourceful?

All animals can sense when someone is danger but their size restricts them from doing anything... it's the same as Tea cup dogs... they know when something is wrong but can you seriously tell me that little thing is of any help? Also, a Pest is a PEST nothing more it's not something towards humanity it's just something that impedes with every day life and or is harmful to anything or any being that is living.

Also, I am VERY serious. I value animals lives more than ANY piece of crap human... I don't see animals running around trying to hurt or bother anyone or anything; unlike humans they are greedy and only care for themselves also they won't stop for a minute to make fun of you if you are different in any way. In fact all animals do is try to live in the small areas they are forced to live in by Humans. Who do you think the pests are? We're over running everything and destroying other animals homes. Also why do you have to Insult me? It is my opinion and I have the right to it without it being insulted. I am not insulting you in any way at all so i'd like to keep it that way.

 

May... just watch the second episode from the second series of Doctor Who. It'll explain a lot of what Noroz is trying to convey.

Breeding humans JUST to test diseases is wrong. No matter how bad most people are you can't judge the whole species for it. Imagine YOU were bred for this purpose. You never had the right to live a life, you were just born to be another test subject.

 

I NEVER said it was right. I was just saying that If people do it to animals why not do it to themselves... Animals and Humans are equal to me. They all feel pain, despair, hopelessness, fear, etc. What I meant was that if animals could be bred for testing why not humans? Not the fact that they are arse holes lol. Also imagine YOU'RE that lab rat bred for that purpose <_<

 

If this is truly what you think, there is no need for me to further try to convince you why I think you are wrong.

And as far as insulting, it was my understanding that you did not have such a mindset. I respect you for standing up for what you think is right, but that does not mean I agree with the opinion you have. The reason for my wording is because of what I think of the idea. The insult was not directed at you, rather my thoughts of the opinion. If you took offense, then you took offense. Also, I'd like to point out that humans are animals as well. We're part of the Kingdom Animalia.

EDIT: This came afterwards

Exactly my point: Human testing is the most despicable action there is. It happens still, but from what I recall, the most recent, big and horrendous one was during WWII.
I really hope either Aribert Heim or Josef Mengele make any bells ring.

 

I did when you mentioned it and I have several times before.

It's just cruel, I agree with you on that. We shouldn't do it to humans directly but maybe testing it on human cells could work.
Anyway, we're getting off topic. Animal abuse is wrong. Taxidermy is fine for some people but doing what these artists did is just sick.

 

As far as insults I wasn't insulted at all but you stated

That's why I said that. And I know you don't have to agree with my opinion I know where you're coming from though at least.

ALSO That's EXACTLY what I'm trying to put out there. We are ALL animals. We should all be treated with respect I don't believe ANY animal should be tested and bred for experiment; That is just cruel and ridiculous. I was just trying to get my point across that if it's cruel for it to happen to Humans than why is it any different for animals? They all feel and suffer as we do.

 

This is why this is a pointless discussion. Because I am able to see the similarity, but still differentiate between Homo Sapiens Sapiens and Rattus genus. Homo Sapiens Sapiens is the most evolved, most perfect creature on the planet earth so far. (There will be better ones) We are as close to perfection you come, which is why we rule the world. We are conscious. We are intelligent. We have thumbs. We are capable of feeling other emotions than fear, pain and hunger and more than anything, as I already mentioned in an earlier post, I believe, we don't (always/only) act on instinct.

It may suck, but since we are the better animal, and creature, we will use the weakest creatures to make ourselves better. It's called survival of the fittest. We prosper due to other creatures pain. That's how it has always been, and will always be.

 

Who ever said it was right? If we were really the closest to perfect there would be less Violence less stupidity of the average human. and we would have learned to not harm other species or even our own earth which to me is the top of the food chain.

 

We aren't perfect.
We're the closest to perfect there is, because we can have am array of emotions and are capable of philosophical thought.

Also, why don't you like humans? So we hurt other animals. So do other animals.

 

Not at all. We are still the closest to perfection. Is there room for improvement, though? Hell yes.
And no. Every species harm other species. Every carnivore eats another animal. There are of course, herbivores, but as a species, homo sapiens sapiens can't survive like that without taking supplements. We are flawed animals, I never said anything against that, but we are still the closest to perfect you get. We develop and use tools; that's more or less the argument that proves that we are better than other animals.

 

Other animals only kill for food or for their own survival... They don't go wasting it. We hurt animals every day and just throw away their corpses like they were a sac of manure...

Also, I don't hate humans... I just hate when they thing they are greater. Just because We can't understand animals doesn't mean they are brainless n can't feel the emotions that we feel... Animals cry. Animals Love. Animals feel Pain. Animals feel every feeling that humans feel. I don't understand how they are different. Sure we're obviously more intelligent but it's just as a kid with Autism... They love and feel the same but aren't as quick witted as others... I just believe ALL animals are equal and should be treated equally...

 

Animals don't love, they understand who takes care of them, and wants to be around them. And appreciates them.
The only "romance" they have is mating.

Most animals, in many ways, are lesser than humans, and I adore animals in every way.

 

That's why Elephants stay by their family members that passed for weeks on end and are reluctant to leave for food and or water and even cry... and that's why when my dogs mom died every day he would sit in a corner and LITERALLY cry where he'd literally howl n make noises with tears rolling down his face.... Sorry i'm very ugh... -.-' this subject is the thing that will heat me the most... ever...

 

I find this rather cruel. Yes, taxidermy has been around for a while, but doing it to these lengths... no, it's terrible.

 

I find it creepy and gross.
Sorry.

I'm not particularly fond of rats, but I feel nauseous. I don't really approve of this at all, but it's one of those things I'd rather not make a huge fuss about. Just...Ew.​

 

Mother of.....that's extremely messed up...Their little rat faces are even smiling to add to the creepiness....

Killing rats is like killing flies, so if they're cleaning up the street whatever. But I could never get near much less buy something like that, people stuff animals when they go hunting deer or bears, but rats? No, not right.