Chain of Memories Re-posted: Anyone else actually feel Sorry for Repliku?

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  1. Ravenyuki Traverse Town Homebody

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    My opinions:
    I feel sorry for him because he was used and created against his own will. I also feel sorry for him because he felt he wasn't real inside. Can you imagine not feeling real?
    Why I'm not sorry for him: he was against the good guy. (am I not right?) plus he was partially evil.
     
  2. P Banned

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    Was he against the good guy?

    He was manipulated. What does that mean?

    He got given false memories. You cannot blame him for following them in the way Riku would.

    Admittedly he did attack Riku in the begining. This does show that he did have his own actions too. (although I am certain the org would have punished him if he tried to rebel, and not fight)

    I thought Axel told Repliku to absorb Zexion, then use the power to elimenate Riku.

    Whiile the way he delt with the situation may have been wrong, the difference between him and the org are that he did not choose his fate. The majority of the Org did. (Roxas did not though, so that might be why he has such a large fan base)

    Pretty much, I used to think Roxas had it hard off, but then I looked at Repliku. Both were bashed around a bit and forced to do things they did not like, but Roxas got a happy ending. Riku got the bashing around, only worse. No happy ending for him.

    Both also attacked their doubles for "I am the real one" reasons. (Repliku did attack Sora, but that is because his memories were screwed up. As soon as he realised this, he stopped attacking. So I am discounting that.)

    Roxas got some people who cared about him. Repliku got his heart shattered by the one person who meant the most in his life.

    I see them reflected in each other, but Repliku is far worse off.

    people just cannot get their heads around the concept that Repliku was like Roxas. I think this is because Repliku was an enemy.
     
  3. Asterisk NO WONT LET YOU

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    Yeah I think that there should have been more to him,I really liked the guy,even though he tried to constantly murder me.
     
  4. SuperStardustHD Banned

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    Yeah I did kinda feel sorry for Repliku since he was always being used
     
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    Personality wise, or plot wise?

    He seems to have personality enough. Plot wise, he copes well too.
     
  6. Roxas2605 Traverse Town Homebody

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    Surely hes gone into the world of darkness and should at least cameo in a later game for his honor
     
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    No, he is dead. He faded away into darkness, his heart going where Riku's heart would go.

    I do not want him to cameo. Once a character dies, they should be dead. I do not want a song-and-dance about him, just people to acknowledge that he was the biggest sufferer in KH.
     
  8. Destiny's Force Mess with the best, lose like the rest...

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    Okay, I'll admit Repliku was pretty much given the short end of the stick to life. He was created by a pedophile. Gets the crap beat out of him by Little Miss Sunshine. Gets his memories modified by the memory witch. Namine does a Yu-Gi-Oh! imitation and Mind Crushes the little bugger. Feels as if he has no reason to exist if the real Riku still lives. Of course, if he had thought it through, he could've just left Castle Oblivion on his own as a hobo named Steve. :p

    But other than that, he's been pretty much screwed since he was created.
     
  9. the-melodious-schemer Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Yeah I do feel sorry for him. The poor guy was just a clone, a mere copy of Riku though he wanted to be the original. He was fighting for something he would never get.

    Plus he was one of the many fooled by Axel, tricked into killing Zexion. When Zexion died it didn't help him.

    Plus he really wanted to protect Namine and he couldn't.

    Poor Repliku.
     
  10. Asterisk NO WONT LET YOU

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    Both,he was the better Riku in my opinion,maybe because there was more to him than meets the eye.
     
  11. Roxas2605 Traverse Town Homebody

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    I read the manga and repliku confronts riku and starts goin on about being taller then he hits the road being followed by failed vexen replicas

    surely if he fades into darkness he must return like riku came back from the darkness
     
  12. P Banned

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    Okay, the manga butchers Repliku completly. He needed to die in Castle Oblivion. His pre and post death speeches are what made me like him.

    Also, he faded into darkness like the Org, not Riku.
     
  13. Absol Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Yes. I feel sorry for both Repliku and Org 13.
     
  14. ♦Demon♥Angel♦ Gummi Ship Junkie

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    steve y steve, y not billy-bob
    anyway off topic, half and half, i feel bad for him because, well nobody devsers 2 die, but he did desrve 2 get hurt for being a jerk!!!!! break my luck charm i'll break urs!!!!!!!
     
  15. P Banned

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    Hmm? I do not recall repliku breaking anyone's luck charm.

    Also, are you a Riku fan? Because Riku deserves to be hurt for being a Jerk. Repliku is not responsible for all post memory change incidents. (not including the end) Everything before that was Riku-ish.
     
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    yeah remember that was right before namina crashed his heart!!!! well he didn't brake it, but he was ging to!!!!! jerk!!!!!
     
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    He was going to do that. But Sora wasn't really acting much better at certain points. One of Sora's flaws that became apparent in KH and went on to KH: CoM was that he defends girls too much. He was really kind of a jerk as well as he was trying to get to Namine. Repliku also had a charm and both boys thought they were real and were mad at one another. It was not just on Repliku's side. He would destroy the charm so there was one because something was obviously very wrong with 'both' of them having the same memory implanted by Namine and neither understood why or how it was possible and were questioning their own memories and getting mad at the other person for a 'promise' that was fake.

    In the end, Namine really did get away with a lot just because she was a pretty blond haired girl. At least Sora and Repliku came to be at peace with one another and said nice things. Namine was very one-track minded and just nice to Sora because she had a link to him. I have to say I liked her a lot more in KH2 than in CoM where she really was let off so easily for all she did.

    Repliku was very much more bad off than Roxas. Roxas at least had a good ending and also seems to have a past that we will understand more. Repliku really was just there and had to die.

    Riku was not a jerk really. He was angry, afraid and upset. I am not going to slam Riku over what happened to Riku Replica. He definitely had enough of his own problems and was confused and at least he did stay there and try to console Repliku instead of being cold about it, even after Repliku said he was going to kill him to become real. Really, the two I wouldn't blame at all for how Riku Replica turned out would be Sora and Riku because they were the only ones at all nice to him. No one else cared about him. The Nobodies and Namine were wretched to him.

    Also, someone mentioned the manga. The manga is not canon at all. It was terrible what they did to Repliku there. I think out of all the manga for KH, the CoM one was the worst. It really made the Org look incredibly stupid, trashed Repliku's story utterly and more. There were some laughs in it but not enough to stop me from putting down the book a few times to say 'WTF'.
     
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    No, I mis phrased it.

    What I meant was that Repliku's attitude before his memories got stuffed around was Riku's personality. It came from Riku. After that, well he is not really responsible for anything he does to Sora as his memories are screwed.

    The ironic thing is, he only became his own character because of the memories, not because of anything else. It really shows the nurture has made a big different, considering that before his mistreatment he was like Riku when he was following Malificent.
    Care to share a few of these incidents?

    I know Repliku survives with around 50 Vexen clones. What else?
     
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    I do get more of what you mean now. I didn't really hold it against Riku Replica for anything he did to Sora once I saw how his mind was messed up by Namine and how much he really opposed it. That cry out in angst after he had no choice was just horrible and sticks in my memory. In the end, he was made to be bendable to the wills of the Org but they abused and just broke him. You are right though that he did act -more- like Riku in a way before he was messed up than afterwards. I see differences but he was a lot calmer and Riku's normal demeanor seems to be calm, despite how desperate and crazy he became in KH.

    And the Repliku surviving with the Vexen clones thing is the #1 thing that made me mad about the manga. It entirely mocked the seriousness of the situation. Other dumb things were Org members going on about stupid pickles and such nonsense. Some of it was funny and other things were so lame I wanted to pull my hair out. lol
     
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    I think Riku Replica needs more fans: I love Organization XIII, expecially all characters from Chain of Memories, but I hate them when they play with poor Repliku's mind.
    I feel so sorry for him, expecially when Axel toys him and uses him to kill Zexion, that scene is so sad, everytimes I look at it I want to cry.
    I made a short vid about Riku Replica go and see it if you want!