Kingdom Hearts II Questions? Ask Away!

I didnt see anything on this in the KH II thread about
duplicates. I hope I'm not putting this in the wrong spot.

But this was to be about random things about the game you've always wondered, or something. I have a couple or questions which are not helpquestions for the game. I beat it within the first week it came out. But I wanted to ask more logical questions about Org XIII or something about Sora and stuff.

This isn't just for me to ask questions. ASk your own! This is to discuss!
I think it would be a good idea for everyone to post their current knowledge on the game(s). Just so there is no real attacking.

The first thing I wish to ask is that I read on Wikipedia that the first 6 members of the Organization were all assistents to Ansem the Wise while he was studying the heart. Is that true? Or is it not? It's wikipedia so I have to question it.

Also another thing from wikipedia. Is Xehanort a nobody already?
Even if he isn't, why would his nobody look the same?But the first question. I read on wikipedia:
"Organization XIII was formed by a group of scientists working under a man called Ansem the Wise, the ruler of Radiant Garden, and worked from Ansem's castle, Hollow Bastion. The head of this group was Ansem's apprentice, Xehanort, with the others being Braig, Dilan, Even, Aeleus, and Ienzo. Ansem the Wise began initiating tests about the human heart, focusing mainly on Xehanort, with the hopes of recovering his lost memories."
-Wikipedia, 2009, http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Organization_XIII

I hope this is ok, I cited! (I think the rule of no advertising is present, but I dont really call this advertising if it's in a pursuit of knowledge. Tell me if I'm wrong)

But my point being, could Xehanort have the same kind of problems that Roxas had? I mean there's always the possibility that Xehanort could have just lost them cause he has Amnesia (sp) or something, but the fact taht he has a X in his name makes it suspicious.

And then the whole "Xehanort's Heartless, Ansem" would come up. Which i would think would mean something in the field that is maybe suggesting "Xehanort's reflection, a heartless, Ansem"

and then with assuming the name of Ansem, he realized that he couldn't continue with that name for himself being a nobody and changed it to Xemnas. though Xehanort/Ansem figuring out he is a nobody would be tricky to explain. I'm not sure on that one.

My status on the games:
PLayed KH, Kh: CoM, and KH2. Havent seen most of the videos in a while. I know nothing having to do with Final mixes.

That's my first contribution to start a discussion.

 

Do the hearts of worlds make heartless when their heart is taken?

What happened to yen sid after maleficent came?

What happened to org. 13's castle?
Was org. 13's world locked?

 

Well, I would assume that the heartless act from living beings. SO I would assume that when a world "loses it's heart" it doesn't make a heartless.

Well, Yen Sid wasn't around when Malificent revived. The fairies poofed to wherever he happened to be. So.. That's my assumption. He then returned to face her, but she had already gone to Hollow BAstion.

I'm assuming maybe that the Organization castle was made by the nobodies so it was never technically supposed to be. Along with the city below it. Though it was created but it never was. Maybe because it was using a plain that you could manipulate, therefore, the World That Never Was doesn't have a heart?

Also, I'm assuming that you mean that castle, not Castle Oblivion. I don't really know what happened to Castle Oblivion. That confuses me because I thought that Castle Oblivion was where Sora was placed in that Memory Chamber-a-ma-jig. So I dont know.

 

Theory for debunking!

I was thinking and I watched as Marluxia was "destroyed" and then I noticed that his petals existed even after he disappeared.
For some reason I feel that this means that he isn't dead yet. The petals flew. My theory is that he is ONE of a few Organization members that haven't completely ceased to exist yet. I think that he is in hiding for now. After his fight, he goes into darkness starting to regenerate himself.
Maybe not necessarily Kingdom Hearts 3, but later he might come back. Along with the few others such as Luxord, Demyx, Xigbar, and Larxene.

Luxord follows the exact same rule, that his power lasted a little while after he was defeated, and Sora's friends returned too long after Luxord supposedly faded. I feel that the same thing could've happened to him.

Demyx's wasn't as obvious, but he "faded" in water. None of the other members faded in their element. Except Marluxia. But his was slightly different. I guess you can say that Xemnas did too, but no one really knows what this "nothingness" is.

Larxene because she had happened to fade in the same way Xigbar did.

Which brings me to Xigbar. When he started to fade, he looked as if he was teleporting. Which lead me to believe that he isn't gone yet.

And he was in charge or making the new Organization. Being second in command, he seeked out members that he could bring with him. When he "faded" he could no longer teleport any of the members. My theory with Luxord is that he is going to be his second-in-command. Xigbar could've told Luxord about the plan to rise again.

Then there is another thing about that which is the members we never really saw actually fade. The definition of fade you ask? See Xaldin's. YOu can see him completely fade away into nothing.

You don't see the following members do that, and they disapear inside darkness which leads me to believe this
Vexen
Lexaeus
Zexion
Demyx
Luxord
Marluxia (petals consume before he disappears)
Larxene

and possibly Saix can't full decifer that one.

But yeah Org XIII theories

 

Word of God states that all nobodies who has their heartless killed before they did are coming back.

That means Xemnas is assured. We're also told that Axel will return.

 

In the beginning with the twilight thorn, whos the XIII guy?

 

Yes, it's true. If you read the Secret Ansem Reports from KH2, Ansem states that he had six apprentices : Braig, Dilan, Even, Aeleus, Ienzo, and his newest - Xehanort, whom Ansem found collapsed in Radiant Garden. This was about 9 years ago, very close to the time of Birth by Sleep.

No, that was when Xehanort was still human. The six members left Ansem to form the Organization after they became Nobodies. If you notice in that flashback cutscene, Xehanort had a different voice, and had shorter and different-colored hair than his Nobody, Xemnas. The reason Xemnas still looks a lot like Xehanort anyway after all these years is because Nobodies don't age (according to Nomura in a recent interview).

Xemnas, Roxas, and Naminé and exceptions to the rule concerning Nobodies due to special circumstances that took place when their human counterparts lost their hearts. Both Roxas and Naminé were "born" when Sora turned the Keyblade on himself in KH1. To put it in Ansem the Wise's words:

Roxas. And it was purely symbolic, of course.

 

Stupid Birth by sleep with it's being all PSP

 

Where's ursula?

Hi do u know where ursla is in the first? I've already defeated her the first time and now i can't seem to find her (in the game) do u know where she is? Just wondering. and thx! ^_^

 

If you go near the area where there is a dolphin swimming around, grab onto it, and it will atek you to the jet stream, where at the beggining of the stream, a cave will lead you to Ursula.