Prove it.

we can not "prove" that god exsists. nor can we "prove" that he doesn't exsist. certain people have different beliefs! I'm christain and I believe in god. I believe that there is heaven and hell. people can believe what the want.

 

This is an excellent controversy. In mathematics and all science, something is false until proven true. But to gain support of religious people they took the alternative of saying he exists because they can't prove he doesn't. That just shows that Money, Power, and Control are God.

The first religions were created to keep penises in their pants. Because they were producing too many babies that they could hunt for. So the chief created a lie to help his people survive. In the fact that God is a necessary lie to keep those of lesser mentality in check, it still does. Those who are very weak minded or weak in happiness always turn to God. The amount of people who go to church who make more than 100K a year is appalling, its less that 1%. What does that tell you?

In any society and any religion there are Golden Rules are all the same, and in most, all of the stories are the same and just modified a little bit. They are the same because they are stories everyone can relate to and have been proven to mean something.

I've seen and been on both ends of this spectrum and I still cannot say what is God, but there is something of God that everyone can believe in. And I also believe that believing that there is something out there greater than humans is a very necessary and healthy part of living, no matter what you think is greater than you.. It could be aliens for all I care.. Maybe God is an alien.

 

Yes, but why do you choose to believe in God?

 

For every culture and race in the world, there is religion. Whether there is one central god, (and btw christianity is the only religion I know of besides Islamic and Muslim to have only one god) or there is one king god, and many little gods, there is always a god. All of the religions seem to center around one ruler God and Goddess, though again, Christianity, Muslimic, and Islamic religions don't. They instead believe in God, and the Virgin Mary. The only proof we have of an existing deity, is the sheer amount of rerun ideas in religion. Other then that and miracles, everything is based on belief. Miracles could just happen because of pure spiritual or mental power. Personally, after everything that has happened to me, I'm starting to wonder if a god even does exist.

 

Actually, it can.

With a big super-nova going bad. Like Riku_Garra said, I'm also a scientific person. It's all in nature, and nothing HAS to make anything happen.

 

I think (and don't take this to be harsh) that in the olden days, someone got incrediblly bored or frustrated and made up an explination for things that couldn't otherwise be explained at the time. To me, that's where "God" came from.

 

Look love, I'm in the middle of writing a reply to your other post (which is pile of crap btw and I am surprised at your ignorance), but I keep getting distracted by your spamming o:

So word of caution, because I am tired of getting complaints about you derailing threads for your own gain and post count, keep your posts relevant <3 and stop post whoring.

<3 I'll have my reply for your other post in a few moments.

 

Islamic and Muslim aren't religions. Islam is. Islamic is used to describe something of faith and Muslim is used to describe somebody who practices the faith. So the big three are, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Although I'm suprised you didn't even know the Judaism existed. Your entire Old Testament is based on the Torah, the main scripture of the Jewish religion.

 

oh, okay...:P
but still, there is no prove other then belief that a deity exists. Belief is the biggest proof we have, and there is no way yet to prove otherwise....yes, miracles happen, but they could be simple mental/spiritual power.

 

I fail to see how this contributes to this discussion. There is no one reason to choose to believe in God, there are dozens of them, some unique to a individual or region. I fail to see how that is relivant to the discussion besides the fact that you would just try to break their reasons which is just plan ******ed trying to break someone faith in a religion over the internet on a forum about KH games.

 

This is impossible to answer. No one can say for sure.

For this matter, how about, "Prove God doesn't exist"? Also, an impossible answer.

How about, "Prove an apple never goes rotten at this very moment"? There is none. You can only relate this case to previous cases and make an assumption it will go rotten. However, at this very minute, we can't prove anything.

Much like we can't prove God does/doesn't exists.

In fact, the truth is, in my opinion, if God did exist, it'd be in a different dimension at the very least. And he'd be far too out of reach. Our literary allegories (bible, Quran, Torah, and the like) are but human institutions to organize modern religion for empty maturity through intellectual static understanding of how this universe works. In other words, we created organized religion, and have completely misrepresented the God figure AT LEAST, before we go and say he doesn't exist.

/rant

It does contribute. Understanding why is always necessary before having any sort of proof. Especially in terms of divine belief, at the very lowest levels.

Also, Rosey, this isn't a KH forum, this is a discussion forum. KH forums are upstairs. Down here this is off-topic.

So... I don't know what you're trying to prove?

 

And I also feel like this post is unreasonable. Just because its your "reason" doesnt mean its the correct reasoning and just because you think its right does not give you the authority to try and force that reasoning onto other people. So stop being a twat face and actually argue the point unstead of attacking people personal beliefs for their religion.

I agree with Darky

 

Why is it that religious matters cause such uproars?

Can anyone pass the pop-corn?

I'll just say this, everyone can fabricate perfectly correct answers based on their believe, but that doesn't mean it's correct to the rest of the world. In fact, because of that same fact is the reason why no one can prove the existance of God.

Btw

The bible never says the big bang wasn't what created the world....it just says God found the world (meaning it was already there) and gave it a push toward advancement.

 

Like everyone else is saying, there can be no proff either way. The reason we beleive in it is in faith. Like me for example:

According to many doctors around the US, i'm suppose to be dead by now. I have a very serious heart condition (which is rare) and i was suppose to die 16 years ago. Other people with my condition have died early from this, but why am i still alive. I have the faith in god that he is keeping me alive for something.

Also, my aunt took this wierd photo of the clouds that looks like Jesus Christ from all the pictures.

 

that's an easy question. I believe in him because according to the stories I hear he's done alot for this big blue shpere we live in . I choose to believe in him because the bible makes sense

 

Yeah,the big freakin bang that everyone talks about.Then maybe God created the Big Bang.No one knows if he is real,or not.Plain and simple.It could be anything.Any God,or species.

 

If you do, Satan says he'll see you soon.
I just committed lust. Damn. See ya' guys.

Probably not. Why would he create us and then set us up with good and bad choices? What? To purposely send us to Hell? He's a jerk in my opinion.​

 

That would be terrible,but if there is a God,I know he wouldn't pull that,I think.

 

Who or what created that Something or Someone? And who or what created the creator of that Something or Someone?
I don't believe that something can be created from nothing. I believe that has always been something.
And personally, I think a fusion of several still unknown components is a tad more probable than a wizard who made it all go poof.

Actually, whether there is but one or plenty, gods are spiritual beings with no souls, humanly bonds or body. So were the Greek ones (although according to mythology they could take on human form).

Monkeys didn't "create" us, we gradually evolved from other primeapes through various minor adaptations. Beneficial (or at least non-malevolent) alterations in phenotype (appearance, function, you know what I mean) caused by mutations in DNA itself or in chromosomes that are passed on through several generations.
Secondly, who says that there even was a flood, let alone one that wiped out nearly all of mankind?

Long story short, the Bible is "slightly less false" than Greek mythology and some parts aren't disproven yet.

God's existence can neither be proven nor disproven. However, several of his proclaimed feats have already been attacked by arguments based on scientific facts rather than bogus and groping in the dark, so you'll have to excuse me for choosing the former.
Saying that "God could still have created the flood" is true, but if one dares to ask how he did it, it would leave most if not all believers dumbfounded.
While a meteorological study could determine the cause or at least narrow it down to a more understandable and less obscure explanation than "God did it".

 

There is no way to prove God exists. It's just not possible. But there is no way to prove he doesn't exist. That's not possible either. That is a rather silly thing to ask people to do. There is no way of knowing whether God exists or not. That's the whole point of religion. You choose to believe in something because you like it and agree with it. Nobody can prove anything in either direction.

There is plenty of evidence that God exists. There is also plenty of evidence that he doesn't exist. Neither side outweighs the other. You say "Prove God exists." I could just as easily say "Prove God doesn't exist." (I won't because it'd be a stupid, impossible thing to try and do, but let's pretend that I have said that) and neither of us would get anywhere.

Yes, I do too. I think that God created all those unknown components and caused them to fuse, therefore creating the Big Bang. I think it is highly unlikely that God just "poofed" it into existence. Seriously, people, it's not just one or the other. God or the Big Bang. Use your imaginations a little.

No, monkeys did not create us. That's correct. And all of what you said about evolution is also correct. And the Bible says there was a flood. There have been some scientific arguments that support the flood's existence. But there's really no way to prove it. But since you've seemed to deem it an answerable question, I'm going to assume you won't mind me turning the question back around at you and asking, who says there wasn't a flood?

There have also been plenty of of arguments that support God's existence. Would you like to take a look?

http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/1762
http://www.enlightennext.org/magazine/j11/goswami.asp

Also, you may want to spend a good hour or so clicking around this site: http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/answers.html

How on earth do you know that? Do you know "most" or "all" believers? Do you even know half the world's believers? Do not make a huge sweep like that. (It will almost certainly come back to bite you later on.) If one "dares" (like it's some heroic deed) to ask how God created the flood, then I think quite a few people would answer "rain" and walk off thinking you were a bit soft in the head. I don't know about you, but where I come from, rain causes floods. The Bible said it rained for forty days and forty nights. Figure it out :\ Most Christians I know are well aware that floods are caused by excessive rain. We're not idiots.