aka Sam *****ing. [I only seen a thread about the trailer and Patmans, which is just a summary, so I hope this doesn't count as anything.] Prometheus was a visually stunning movie, and very well acted, but suffered from poor writing. Spoiler: ESSAY TIME So the movie starts off with the 'Engineer' aka tall white buff dude, drinks black crap and disintegrates into a waterfall or something, and thats apparently how humans are made, my first problem with the movie, the engineers have exactly the same DNA as us, Millburn does say, "and we are supposed to totally ignore darwinism/evolution?" I mean the movie could have gone with something like 'oh the engineers have X which is something every living organism has' I don't know, its seems so vain that they only want to know the origin of man and not life itself. The characters themselves are just unbelievably stupid, in the beginning when Shaw and Holloway talk with Vickers, Shaw is interested in an automatic surgery table, but later it says it is a model only men can used, why would Vickers, a woman herself keep this thing to herself when she cannot use it? I know this is a little nitpick, not at all important to the story, but it just bothers me. Another ... really weird scene is when Vickers is talking to Janek and they go have sex, I know it was just a plot device to get Janek away from the console as Millfurn and Fifield do stupid crap (which is what I will talk about in just a bit) but it would have been interesting to see Vickers and Janek form a relationship, I'm not saying they become a thing, but some kind of friendship in the least, but its never even mentioned. Now to the scene with Millburn and Fifield, this was just beyond stupid, these are trained scientists, and yet they mess around with a HISSING snake alien creature, its just basic knowledge not to do that, even with dogs who don't know you. This is probably the weirdest/stupidest thing, but Shaw is down to her skivvies, covered in blood from the cesarean she just performed on herself, and when she stumbles through the door no one even bothers to ask what the hell happened, they go back to attending to Weyland (who looks like they spent their whole budget on the special effects and used whatever to make this guy look old, WHY COULDN'T THEY USE, I DONT KNOW? AN ACTUAL OLD MAN?). But it leads to the other question, why did Weyland fake his own death in the first place? His company is the one funding this whole mission, they could have told the crew out flat that he was in stasis on the ship. This is just another nitpick, but when Shaw got all moody about being sterile, I found to be a very useless scene. I can get that people are just sterile, and I understand that it was to make the scene where David tells Shaw she is pregnant more of a shock. But David told her she was already along 3 months would have already been the weird part, since they recently awoke from stasis. The ending is just bad, its obvious lead in to a sequel, Shaw going to a whole planet full of Engineers? SOUNDS SO FUN. TLDR: What did you think of Prometheus??
Actually, I'm rather upset that this movie exists. Even though it is some great visuals, the writing is bad. But because it is similar thematically to "At the Mountains of Madness," which is a movie being directed by Guillermo del Toro, it's actually being put on hold and it didn't help that the studios are trying to force the movie to get a PG-13 rating, instead of R. So bad movie + similar themes + terrible timing = a potentially great movie gets put on hold indefinitely.
“Why are we here? Who created us? What is our purpose?†These questions and thirst for knowledge are what drives the character Shaw in Prometheus. Motivation, need, faith, and the search for our own significance and meaning are what I believe are the film's major themes. The character David, an android created by humans, is one of the members of the ship. I believe David's name comes from Michelangelo's David, who like himself, is a replica or image of Man. Maybe I should point out that there is also a character named David in the film A.I. Artificial Intelligence, a child android built to mimic human emotions. Prometheus's David is supplied to contrast our own human motivations with logical reasoning, and also to let us question, "What makes someone human?" While David follows his programming, each of the other characters have their own reasons for doing what they do. David is blameless because his actions throughout the film are the result of his programming, and are not even done out of self-interest. He is at terms with his existence, and is puzzled about why humans strive for more, and continue to hope and have faith in the face of uncertainty. I find these themes to be at the heart of Prometheus, and I also find it to be an amazing science fiction film. If you liked Prometheus, might I recommend: A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001), as mentioned before, and Contact (1997), about a woman much like Shaw, whose quest for knowledge leads her to strive for hope.
I know I spat copiously on this movie in my own thread, but I' ll play devil' s advocate (a little). It' s probably Weiland' s, not Vickers', he' s the one who needs permanent intensive medical care. One of the major themes of this movie is birthing, surely having a sterile heroin there was deliberate. I found this a while ago : http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html#cutid1 Now to me this analysis shows the movie could have been interesting, however it failed completely at conveying its own themes. Not just the metaphors, the plot itself remained needlessly cryptic from beginning to end, instead it focused on its nonsensical character decisions. Maybe seeing the whole trilogy will make the themes clearer, maybe the characters will start acting like they actually have a brain (given the decision that leads to the second movie it' s doubtful), but that wouldn' t make Prometheus any less feeble on its own. Now to be fair I watched the four Aliens recently, just to clear the nostalgia fog that obscured my memories. Turns out they all are as badly written as Prometheus except the first one (stupid character decisions everywhere, but at least the plots aren' t cryptic so they' re much easier to forgive). Maybe that' s why I expected so much more from Ridley Scott.
i thought Prometheus was pretty good. i mean it isnt something im going to see at the oscars but it's a good popcorn movie. can anyone tell me though whose side the android freak was on? that's what bugged me the most about the movie. it was totally set up for a sequel and i never could figure out why the android wouldve put that 'organism' in that chicks' husband?
That doesn' t mean everything David did was Weiland' s orders, but at least it shows his agenda coincided with Weiland' s to some degree. BTW, I think Scott' s insistence not to include subtitles illustrates marvelously how obnoxiously cryptic he wants to be.
dang i didnt even know they had a translation for what he said out for the public lol but preciate it. the movie was good, just too many 'what the frick happened?!' moments for me. usually i like those moments but this movie turned me away from them for some reason.
