Birth by Sleep Plot Twistes and Turns **MAJOR SPOILERS**

ok! so i just saw the BBS teaser with subtitles! YEA! and ive notice things about the plot that are become clear-er to me

MX- master xehanort


1st!
Ven has lost his heart (stated by MX) and yet he hasnt become a heartless yet...or has he?!
Ven (at the end) asks Terra to "erase" him, somthing i would find kinda odd if you werent "whole"
but! you ask "heartless werent around back then" yes this is true....or maybe they were but not the kind were thinking of, if you notice that mask soilder of MX has the EXACT SAME outfit that evil Riku had in KH1
could this masked man be the very first heartless? and Ven has become one of MX's "experiments" thats why Terra askes MX "what have you done to his heart" (also impling that heartless werent around then otherwise Terra would have know what he has done with it)
what i gathered is that when you lose your heart like Ven did u aperiently lose your memory as well (not sure cuz we've never seen a heartless become a human infront of our eyes, sora wasnt a human heartless and he was a specail case)
also MX holds Vens "heart" at the Collosium and its very similar to the ball of energy that he shoots up into the sky and the big moon kingdom hearts thing apperes at the end of the BBS trailer in KH2 final mix +, it also seems to be the keyblade, the ONLY keyblade with a keychain i might add in the secret trailer

2nd
Terra aparently is (or was) going to be MX's apprentace because MX says "ive belive you've found your path now--cross the wall between light and darkness, to me--im tried of waiting for you Terra" this implies that Terra has a history with MX. Terra also says "i dont care about being the master.."
also Terra seems to reject it because he has a "friend(Ven)" now
this means that Terra could be evil and then meets Ven and becomes good, this could be why Terra had that evil grin on his face when he was talking to Maleficent in a picture along time ago

3rd
WHERE THE HELL IS AQUA!
shes not been in any new pictures, shes not in the trailer and this got me thinking
is her name really Aqua?
or is it a decoy that Nomaru has put up so we dont discover her true name and place in this game
she is defiently...............omg i just thought of somthing what if shes the MASKED MAN!(woman) in the beginning but then leaves for unknow reasons and goes to fight for Terra and Ven? think about it
we havent seen or heard about her at all! and in the BBS trailer at the end of KH 2final mix + the masked man comes out of MX so maybe that one is HIS heartless and the Ansem in the first KH...they could get bigger...u never know
the Masked person in the subbed trailer has bigger hips (no offence ladys) but women had bigger hips for child birth (ducks for cover) just saying that it looks like a girl
maybe she was brain washed by MX? but turns good in the end

maybe Ven is the person that connects the other 2 together and the climaxtic fight with MX in the end of BBS happens and the fate of our 3 heros is left unknow...


and i was worried i wouldnt have anything for Aqua xD

 

your right,so far there has almost been nothing about her(apart from the fact we know she going to be in the game)

 

1.
I actually think that possibly Ven and Aqua become the first heartless in existence. Though whether or not it's his heart that Ven's lost when MX talks to him is beside me. I think it's more his memory because the first thing that MX says to him is "Nice to see you again" which Ven then replies to with "Who are you?"

Possibly memory loss being the theme of this game? After all according to Xigbar in FM+ the last one standing (KH2!Xehanort) had no memory of it what-so-ever.

2.
Hopefully the game will give some deep in site to their past. Tera does have an extreme hatred for MX and it would be nice to see why.

3.
I also think that Aqua is actually IN the trailer we just don't see her... we see her shadow. When Ven is on the beach there's a shadow of what appears to be a woman standing next to him.

 

I'm so confused.. I saw the secret ending of KH2 and that was bad enough.. now all of this! :)

But on a brighter note, i found my PSP (h)

 

Keychain history:

Sunset horizen fight: MX, DS and Mickey have keychains.

Gathering place: Kingdom key, darkkingdom key and Way to the dawn have keychains.

Erkz Trailer: MX and DS lack keychains! (At least, DS looks to lack it...) Mickey has a keychain.

There, that clear it up for you?

 

1.I think that Ven becomes the first heartless but you've got no theory to suggest that Aqua is a heartless but her being refered to as friend which is not worth much in the realm of theory.

2.I think it will give a deep in look on the past.Usually things from the past appear in the sequel following the prequel e.g. In Metal gear solid 3:Snake eater a girl appears named EVA and in the new game, coming out on the 12th; she comes back under the alias of Big Mama.The past comes back to haunt and repeat itself.

3.I think that might be her shadow too.

As usual spammy adds something almost completely Useless.Stop spamming or i'll report you to a mod.

 

There's #14. A nobody who has the same jaw line and mouth as Aqua and could possibly in fact BE Aqua. With a Nobody there's a Heartless, correct?

 

I understand the theory but Tetsuya isn't conventional so i wouldn't count on it.
It's probably a new enemy that has some conection to the past which has not even been shown before. Don't expect the obvious from Tetsuya.

 

actually the shadow in this picture is Terra because a few seconds before they show this scene Terra is on the island looking at little kids fighting (sora and riku)

and he tells Ven that there "friends" and Terra fights for Ven

 

Yeah, thats for sure.

Nice theory though, i find Aqua the most mysterious character in BBS, Tetsuya didnt give us info about her for nothing, maybe if he gives us something about her he'll leak alot of info about the 14th member, IF they are connected that is.

 

i actualy could see where Aqua's nobody is the 14th member but i dont think thats ture because 358/2 is comeing out before BBS so why have a character that know won knows about be involded in another game?

i dont think the 14th member is her...i could...but i doubt it

 

I hope he doesn't leak much at all.We might get a bit during E3 but i hope nothing much.
It will be better with that hint of surprise and amazment on everyones face.

 

i agree i like it better when somthing is revealed and its like "OHHHHHHH!" kinda like pre kh2 final mix + days (good times good times)

 

Ya, somepeople like spoilers like looking at secret endings and endings on the internet but i want to earn the right to see them, unlike the spoiler people.

 

Actually, if you look at the Birth By Sleep FM+ teaser, you'll see Aqua fighting the Masked Man, so that kinda rules that out . . . . xD

Actually, in an interview, Nomura confirmed that #14 was not Aqua, but a new character. (Sorry, too lazy to find it xD)

No, the scene with Terra watching Sora and Riku was actually at a Destiny Island, This scene is at the never seen before Twilight Town Beach. Xaldin or Nomura confirmed it. Wait, it was Nomura that confirmed it. Look a little closer and you'll see.

 

no, because the scene im talking about is different than the one you talking about

look on the new leaked trailer with subs and youll see Ven getting knocked around by a very womany looking solider man (women)

and about the whole....twilight town lake crap, thats just it its crap
it IS Destiny Island IT IS sora and riku and the shadow man IS Terra

 

yea he did say that, but i still say that shadow is TERRA! ugh!

 

That may be a possibility , usually the girls in kh have no hips , except Larxene . . . xD

 

Yes i agree with my sexy assosiate. (Yes it is flattery Love)

 

((More like observations over the kh games xD ))

Maybe Aqua appears later in the game then everybody else , just my thought .

Or something really important happened during the game that kept Aqua from making not very many appearances . Like her heart was taken from her , kidnappings , etc .