Kingdom Hearts II Organization XIII Elements

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  1. water mage Kingdom Keeper

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    Since there are 14 members and none of us know Xion's element yet, which elements of the members of Organization XIII are the most deadly and why?

    Here is a list of the members and their respected element:

    Xemnas: Nothingness
    Xigbar: Space (gravity)
    Xaldin: Wind
    Vexen: Ice
    Lexaeus: Earth
    Zexion: Illusion
    Saix: Lunar (moon)
    Axel: Fire
    Demyx: Water
    Luxord: Time
    Marluxia: Nature
    Larxene: Thunder *Lightning it makes better sense, but the creator refers to as thunder.*
    Roxas: Light
    Xion: ?
     
  2. xXSafaiaShinobiXx Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Xigbar is incredibly fast, and can warp around the room at breakneck speed. You need to be on your toes when you fight him.
    Demyx can constantly pound you over and over again with relentless combos, plus his clones are very difficult to defeat within the time limit. If I have to say which one is the most deadly, I'd say that it was water.
     
  3. Sonic the Hedgehog The Blue dude is back!!

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    Yeah so do I,but I also think Illusion can be deadly too.It can kill you on the inside.Especially Zexion and his stupid freakin book of death!
     
  4. Haseo Knight of Light

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    I think Thunder is pretty deadly. Larxene's speed, plus the fact that lighting is one of the most deadly things on Earth equal Resident Evil Game Over screen.
     
  5. AnimeGirl104 Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Dude, Axels 'blow himself up' trick can kick butt....
    But of course thats suicide right there so I have to say....

    Larxene.
    She is tough, man.
     
  6. xXSafaiaShinobiXx Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I've never fought Zexion, so I didn't know what he could do. I'm gonna borrow Re:Com from my friend when it comes out, and I just know that Zexion's gonna be a b!tch to kill. On the flipside, you can be in Riku's dark form during the entire fight.
    I wish that FM+ would be in English. I would like to fight Roxas.
     
  7. Personally, I think Lightning [I'll remove from calling it "Thunder", since that isn't the correct element to be named by, considering thunder is the sound after lightning strikes, not lightning. I still ponder why the Japanese refer to it as that in all their games], and Gravity/Space.

    To start off, I really do think the members', in terms of their powers, are really nerfed and dumbed down to a point where they can be average, if not, great fighters, but not ultimately powerful. For example, Luxord, has the abilitiy of time. TIME. He could back UP those 10 years of BBS, and change history. He can undo the deaths of the Organization by going to the past, and altering the certain events that allowed it to occur, and avoid himself fading. You can freeze your surroundings, and then easily let it go when in need. This is what is most associated with the "element", and you will think that a person controlling time is capable of great feats. No, we only got card games and a time limit.

    Xigbar. He has Gravity/Space, for pete's sake. Do I really need to explain the utter destruction he could have? Vortex, defying the natural pull of gravity, able to warp, maybe even go to dimensions. Think about this. Personally, with this in hand, this should make him a deadly member, at least, more deadly than he was. But all he was reduced to is moving around, turning upside down, switching the fields...and even with that, it sounds incredibly amazing.

    Seriously. Sora would have never, EVER, gone through these guys if they showed the potential they were capable of. Of course, the hero has to save the day, and always has to win and be the all powerful with the mighty undefeatable weapon of doom, so of course, some were taken away to fit the need of that fate.

    Now, moving on from that, since I managed to explain Xigbar in that half way rant, I will explain why I chose lightning as one. Is not favoritism, is because I truly do believe lightning is dangerous, one strike by it, and you, literally, die. Period [which makes me wonder if Sora has durable, rubber/leather skin, because he from the first moment hit, realistically, would be pushing daisies >.>]. It is considered one of the most deadly phenomenons in nature, and yet, beautiful to look at. And fast. Kind of fitting for who wields it in Org. XIII as a female, and with the title of Savage Nymph. But, on to the point, lightning can heat nearby air to about 18,000 °F (10,000 °C) almost instantly, which is nearly twice the temperature of the Sun’s surface [the heating is what creates the shock wave heard as thunder]. Already hotter than fire, which is obvious, consider the amount of heat it posesses is what gives it its glow. It travels at speeds up to 60,000 m/s, and can reach temperatures of 54,000°F (30,000 °C).

    As you know, it is also hot enough to fuse silica sand into petrified lightning —known as glass channels or fulgurites. Lightning is also capable of hurting/killing people from 30 yards of where it strikes.

    Obviously, applying logic won't work in a game [though, I figured, since it is lightning, and thus, the same statistics must be contained to have it the way it is], aware that Sora beat these guys when they have really dreadful, and right on the spot kill elements, but on to the point, if Larxene does use it resourcefully and effectively, she can do many things with it as much as she wants it to.

    Hmm. Illusion is also another deadly element. Think about this one, as well. With the way Zexion uses it, you can drive someone insane and mentally unstable by using manipulation and putting their greatest fears come to reality. You can honestly, break a person down, and this isn't even counting what Zexion does with it in-game, taken from another member of a forum who placed it down nicely: he can clone himself if he wants to swarm you, he could send you into a massive loop of hallucinations if he wants to torment you or incapacitate you, and he could copy any weapon he wants which means he could assumingly attack with Axel's Chakrams, Larxene's kunai, Marluxia's Scythe, Xigbar's Gun Arrows, or any other member's weapon for that matter.

    Then, there's that lexicon. He can blast you with it, have it blast you, or have it create a vortex to suck you in. Then, once he traps you in it, he could confuse, baffle, and bombard you in his very own dimension to his heart's content.

    Thes rest aren't what I considered to be deadly, except maybe Xemnas's, yet, Nothingness, I suppose, go hand to hand in Darkness and Light. To Nobodies, it is basically death in himself, because they are nothing. He can, as said in the game itself, turn them into Dusks if he feels like it, and outright threatens Axel in a [quite dreary and empty] meeting.



    Of course, as said, they were nerfed for Sora to easily kill, otherwise, there wouldn't be any part of Sora left.
     
  8. water mage Kingdom Keeper

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    Nicely stated,*TwilightNight* but I disagree with your list only because you you should of added more of the elements. Fire is one of the most destrucitve forces of nature that could kill anyone instantly. Just thinking about the embers of the flames flying onto the skin would cremate you in a matter of minutes depending on the intense heat of the flames. The carbon dixoide of the smoke would leave internal damgage *take it from someone who experienced it and lives with it* that could cause permanant disability. Let's take this into consideration of Sora and Roxas. Roxas whom fought Axel was surrounded with a wall of flames no where to run and he couldn't and wouldn't jump over them for the heat would be so intense that one would fall and be ash. With Axel's dangerous weapons and his violent personaility, Roxas or Sora *in COM* would of never stood a chance.

    Let's also take into consideration, that Axel had the ground that Roxas stood on practically on fire, for Roxas was standing on hot embers and if that were not enough, Axel was disappearing in and out of the flames causing more damage. In reality if one stood on hot embers the soles of your shoes would melt and you would eventaully be set ablaze and then turned into ash.

    Another deadly element is water. Can you imagine the force of what water could cause to the human body? And that is said without discussing the temperature of the water. With such pure intensity Sora would of never stood a chance by Demyx's attacks. Demyx clearly summoned his element without playing his sitar since he was calling forth for his weapon that had not appeared yet.The clones of the water that Demyx manipulated with his sitar were bodies of pure energy that did cause Sora damage, but because there were so many of them, they could of easily formed into one body and could cause him to drown.

    Once water gets into your lungs, it is the most agonizing tedious and frightening experience for it feels like you are slowly dying. *Yes I have almost drowned before and can relate* Not only does Demyx have the water clones attack, but he also comes at Sora with onslaught of force from his water jets propeling him across the screen to his mighty streams of water bursting up from the ground, it makes you wonder how could Sora surive all that?

    And to scientifically explain that, the water for it to cause those occurances, the temperature with standard pressure would have to be at 100celsius or 212 ferenheit thus becoming a vapor or a gas. With that much heat and pressure an individual's organs would be crushed with such force causing ruptures and fatal blows and the temperature would cause all the layers of the skin tissue to instantly at first peel, and then literally fall off. It would be as having your hand or your body in boiling water. Just the vapors of the steam would instantly knock you out and let's not imagine it being sprayed at you with the pressure of a fire hose or worse.

    To make matters worse, his bubbles that burst over Sora's head are enough to knock him out for the excessive forth of the magnitude of the pressure of the skull would crack and cause severe head injury or death. What makes his element deadly besides all of those attacks, are the intensity that he uses his sitar to control the tempo of the music that controls the water and the use of the weapon of itself swinging it around like a bo and lunging at Sora like a sword. Combine all of those different attacks, you have instant death with no chance of survival.
     
  9. Skylight_Defect Hollow Bastion Committee

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    I'd have to go with water. Demyx might not be the best fighter, but he could just continuously hit you with water. Plus, he has those clones which are a real pain so I'm going to have to go with water.
     
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    Water can keep the combos going and depleat your health pretty quickly, but I have to go with Thunder. In the real world, thunder (lightning) an kill you.
     
  11. Ice_Keyblade Kingdom Keeper

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    I think thunder or fire would be the best because fire can interupt your combos and thunder would keep you on your toes
     
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    Despite Marluxia's flower power, I'd hate to say it, but I think he's one of the strongest, next to Roxas, Axel, and Larxene.
     
  13. Shady Trace Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I say Xigbars. He should've impersonated his powers to be more like Star Wars. All He has to do is stand on his platform and kill Sora by choking him to death.
    And what does he do?
    Becomes a monkey for violent entertainment.
     
  14. water mage Kingdom Keeper

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    That would be Darth Vader's response and not Xigbar's. Xigbar likes to toy with his victims and seemed to have the advantage from a bird's eye view. His element of space was designed for his battle tantics to match that. If any nobody were to immitate what Darth Vader did that would most likely fall under Zexion since he can manipulate the mind with his illusions.
     
  15. fire mage Hollow Bastion Committee

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    All the elements can be devasting since most of them deal with nature and unnatural events that can occur without warning. The ones we should worry more is fire, water, lightning, wind, and earth because they are more of a threat to our society and can cause deaths without warning.
     
  16. Finale Wannabe Nobody

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    Roxas's is light and darkness.

    anyway maybe Xion's is Light and darkness to since she has the same weapon.
     
  17. Styx That's me inside your head.

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    All of them have their strengths (and weaknesses).
     
  18. Phantom Sora Destiny Islands Resident

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    Actually, Roxas says, "Somebody from the dark..." That means he's
    both dark and light (Oblivion and Oathkeeper).
     
  19. mudstripe Twilight Town Denizen

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    Time, Nothingness, Space, and Illusion all can be really deadly if you can use them right.
     
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