Kingdom Hearts II Organization XIII always return. They never Die.

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  1. Ansem the dumb Destiny Islands Resident

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    I understand that Zexion, Vexen, and Xigbar's video was a memory, but still, all eliminated members still keep coming up. In the scene where they show you the Organization's throne room, you see the WHOLE organization sitting, including Marluxia, Larxene, Vexen, Zexion, and Lexeaus. Was that a memory too?
    And don't go saying that it's the data versions, because the data versions won't just pop up where the original nobody is supposed to be, unless that was someone's assignment.
    My theory is the following, it's straight and to the point:
    Nobodies are nothing. You can't destroy nothing!!!!!! Can you sefeat something that actually isn't there? now, beside you?! No you can't. Now I think that when they are elliminated, they return, but they are no longer part of the organization. "You eliminated a fellow member" - Marluxia - KH:CoM.
    Usually to eliminate a MEMBER means to kick 'em out.
    And if they do return as data, and have their own memories, then they would still walk around and be part of the organization, joining Xemnas in KH2.

    Anyone here with any different thoughts? I've been thinking about this for weeks.
     
  2. P Banned

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    To quote. "You're right. Light and darkness is eternal. Nothing probably goes on forever too. But guess what Xemnas! That doesn't mean you're eternal!"

    The memory was just that. A memory. It was a flashback. The data was just that. Data. The org may return, but only a few. Twliight night has more information on that.
     
  3. Ansem the dumb Destiny Islands Resident

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    Sorry........What? I don't believe you answered my question correctly......No offense whatsoever. But please, can you try to re-read my post and answer? I'm SUFFERING HERE!!!! sorry. as I said, please find a better answer. btw I love pikachu too! :D
     
  4. Repliku Chaser

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    Yes, each time you see the 'whole' organization together or members that have been defeated it is a past memory. The Nobodies aren't 'nothing'. They 'shouldn't' exist, but they do. They have bodies made out of Darkness and an element of life. They have spirits though they lack hearts. Therefore they aren't 'eternal' when they are defeated and their bodies destroyed. Xemnas had the element of 'nothing' so he went on about it.

    Actually, 'eliminate' usually means to destroy, kill off, finish etc, unless you are playing some game where you remove someone for a round. Axel did indeed kill off Vexen who was weakened by Sora.

    The Org members themselves that were offed are gone. Not sure why you think that they were walking around with Xemnas in current time. Every cut scene with them in the game was not in current time and was from a year ago. Maybe if you pinpoint some of these scenes we could discern the time more that they happened.
     
  5. Scott Pilgrim Banned

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    The organization will live in our hearts forever. I hope that it will reform in KH3.
     
  6. 7th Key of the Kingdom Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Possible. If there are still heartless, there will still be nobodies, and chances are some may keep human form.
     
  7. Haseo Knight of Light

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    If they do appear they will most likely be the whole persons.
     
  8. Scott Pilgrim Banned

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    The Organization will come back. The same guys will not. Once a person goes Heatless thay can't become people again meaning that person can't become a nobody.
     
  9. Roxaspartanti King's Apprentice

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    I'm thinking that Roxas could return more, since he wasn't defeated.
     
  10. demonchick25 Hollow Bastion Committee

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    well apparently nobodies can't actually die, they're just scattered in the nothingness(much like riku in the beginning of CoM/RR) witch would mean that it could be possible for them to come back. though i'm sure the plot would not allow that.
     
  11. Sonic the Hedgehog The Blue dude is back!!

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    You have made a very good point.Maybe they will eventually return in a later KH game.Not one of the new 3.I do not mean BBs,358/2 days or common sense not Coded.
     
  12. demonchick25 Hollow Bastion Committee

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    there is still hope for the organization^^ but that would be awesome if they did come back
     
  13. water mage Kingdom Keeper

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    I feel in my bones, that they all will return since they are so popular among fans and the creator will see to that. The popularity of Kingdom Hearts is not same without them and for once among fans of all sorts across the world, said in a poll that the members of Organization XIII were the first antagonists to be more favored and loved than the protagonists.
     
  14. Elemental Queen Destiny Islands Resident

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    Right on! May they totally live on! I love the orgy! i cried a bit when i murdered Xemmy again.
     
  15. What poll was that, may I ask? Not that I don't believe you or anything, is that I'm curious.
     
  16. water mage Kingdom Keeper

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    It was a poll from a magazine specilizing in japanese animation. It was held at Anime Expo two years ago.
     
  17. water mage Kingdom Keeper

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    What? If what you say is true than you have lifted my spirits.
     
  18. Nice.

    And is so true.

    In fact, I personally think the Organization was KH2's saving grace.
     
  19. Data Saïx Twilight Town Denizen

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    I just hope they all come back. I could see their new moves, their current ones aren't so impressive.
     
  20. water mage Kingdom Keeper

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    Organization XIII was the only reason I got into Kingdom Hearts what so ever. I hope they do return other wise it won't be the same without them.
     
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