Kingdom Hearts II Organization 13 as regular people in the next KH sequel, who should be,who shouldn't?

Basically what the title says.

If, by some way, some members of Organization become whole again,
who should become human again, and who shoulldn't.

This isn't actually canon, but it's nice to think about.

Personally:

Xenmas: Shouldn't. He started the whole mess, and he's a good
majority of the reason that all of the following Org members, and other people,
became nobodies and heartless in the first place.

Xigbar: Should. He was acting along with Xehonart's concept of
releasing their own hearts, and became corrupted.
He basically lost his heart because of Xenmas.
Also...he's just really cool.

Xaldin: Same as Xigbar, he was corrupted by his own deeds,
and by non-nonody Xenmas. So he should.

Vexen: Should, but his habit of using numbers
as superiorty will be his own downfall,
though probably not leading to another death.

Lexeaus: Should. He's just awesome that way.

Zexion: Should. He wouldn't be as Emo and sly.

Saix: Should. I was going to say shouldn't for acting so closely
with Xenmas, but then I realized:
Saix trusted Xenmas to the point he was also easily manipulated to Xenmas's plans.
"Kingdom Hearts...where.....is my heart...?"

Axel: Should. Why? He saved Sora's butt. He should be foremost in line to become whole again.

Demyx: Poor Guy, he should become whole again.

Luxord: Should, for his entire coolness.

Marluxia: Should and shouldn't.
He tried to overthrow Xenmas justifiedly,
but he also tried to destroy everyone else
besides himself, Larxene, and, at some point, Axel.

Larxene: Should and Shouldn't,
same reason as Marluixa.
But yet she is more excused because
she was a mere pawn of Marluxia,
and not actually second-in-command of the plot.

Roxas: He alread is is whole. Play the game again and see
if you had to read this far.

So does you think?

 

Repliku should because he was a poor messed up person totally screwed over. =:/

Alas he's not in the Org as a member Nobody so...

I'd say Xemnas would be rather impossible because his Heartless (Heart) was destroyed by Riku ultimately so it would seem rather not likely.

As for any of the others, they 'may' be possibilities. Axel seems the most likely and we already know Roxas is Sora's Nobody and Namine is Kairi's. We know for near certain Axel's Nobody went back to his Heart and he would become whole again. Whether he actually remembers his time as a Nobody though remains to be questioned. As for any of the others, it could happen that they come back as whole people and it would be a curiosity if actually any did and would they recall the events or not. I won't judge though on 'who' should get the rights to come back or not, because their crimes as Nobodies may not equate to what they did as whole people before they lost their hearts.

 

I agree that Axel,Demyx,and Zexion should definitely return whole.And,Roxas is whole. Axel is amazing, Demyx wasn't really the kind that wanted to fight,and Zexion seemed kinda laid back and actually didn't want to fight as well (He probably only did to get Riku).

As for everyone else...

Xemnas - NEEDS TO DIE COMPLETELY D:<
Xigbar - He should,and he shouldn't. Should,because like you said,he was just being used. Shouldn't,because if he was as dangerous with that freaking sniper without a Heart,how dangerous do you think he would be WITH one? D:
Xaldin - Shouldn't. He seemed to be a bit on his own for a bit,taunting the Beast and almost made him betray his friends.
Vexen - Should. He was an idiot, but a USEFUL idiot. A man of science. He could help teh world. :D
Lexeaus - I guess he should. He's kind of in the same boat with Zexion. =/
Saix - Should,then shouldn't. He was manipulated by Xemnas,I grant ye that. But he also forced Sora into the Darkness because he kidnapped Kairi. Hmm....this is difficult. >>
Luxord - Hehe, he should. He'd play a mean poker and completely wipe out Vegas. XD
Marluxia - I dare him to. He used Sora for his own selfish needs and he took down 2 of his buddies to do so. >>
Larxene - She was a pawn. 'Nuff said.

 

Ehh...your Xigbar and Demyx reasons dont really justify bringing them back. I'd say Axel is a good person to come back for the same reason you did though...

 

i would want

xigbar for his epic coolness and catch phasre's and english voice

axel- *points to username*

lexeaus-was awesome in com,he awesome to me

larxene-she was cool,and we need more girls in the game

 

i want marluxia to come back and sorta....say sorry to Sora...but since sora doesnt remeber it will be very dramatic
and then marulxia will walk off into the sunset...or...come back and fight THEN walk off intot he sunset...no wait rose petals xD

 

Xigbar because he rocks.

Demyx because I feel bad for him. He really didn't want to get mixed up with Xemnas. He just had no choice.

Axel because he's really cool and he helped Roxas and Sora.

Saix because he really got confused by Xemnas. Xemnas made him think that it was the right thing to do. Also because I think he deserves a second chance.

and yeah that's about it.

 

Axel
Demyx
Zexion...I just think they should. No real reason...>>; I just think they acted like they were whole anyways...

 

Saix FTW. Basically cause I'm a Saix fangirl, but point given in the first post, he really wanted his heart back. Axel should become whole too, I'm dying to find out who he really is. Xigbar just owns. Larexne(sp?) should too, cause she's cute(Ya, Bi, so what of it? XD) but she was basically manipulated by Marluxia.

 

Trust me, I get into the whole issue of LGBTs.....and every time I get pelted by the turnips of shame.
Those suckers hurt[The turnips].
So don't worry about being judged...not just because I don't actually want to....
I honestly can't...without fear of vegetabables

But anyway, very nice view points.
I only quoted Enigmatic's post because I accidentally pressed wrong button
and I was too lazy to press the last page button thingy.....>>...<<

 

Okay, ICSP knows this better than me, but it is confirmed by Nomura that some of the org are coming back.

Apparently when a nobody has lost their heart, if their heart was released from their heartless prior, they become whole again.

It is confirmed for Axel, and by logic, Xemnas too.

Everyone else is speculation. Although this thread does not seem to be about that. This thread seems to be more fan-driven, as a place for people to comment about their favourite member.

 

Xemnas, by Nomura's account of what happens to Nobodies, probably should not be able to come back as a Somebody because Riku destroyed his Heartless and though he still had the power and piece of it, the Heartless Ansem had no more personality etc like he killed the spirit. Therefore when Xemnas died, unless somehow his Heart was cleansed and not destroyed, he would be utterly obliterated. He's one of the only ones that should have no chance at all of returning. The others would just be questionable if their hearts were freed of the Heartless condition or not when they died to determine if they lived or not. Axel is the only one (other than Roxas and Namine) that went back to his Heart and returned as a Somebody that is actually confirmed. All the others are mysteries. I would say though Xemnas, unless there's some secret thing about reviving a destroyed Heartless/Heart within another person that's not exposed yet, is the only one who absolutely could not return.

 

The answer is simple . . . I'd want ALL the Organization members to return to the Sequel as their somebodies. Mostly because it'd give the game a larger plot and the player a variety of assignments. Besides, they are all sexy, and they all deserve to be back. The Organization, by far, has been the greatest villains in a video game, in my opinion, and even after two games [no wait, three], and even after they've faded back into darkness, they still deserve more screen time. They were unique and deadly in their own little ways, and that's what intrigues me. I'd love to have to face them again in the Sequel. 8D

 

Actually, Nomura was very clear when he said that the heart of a heartless is freed when defeated. By that, Xehanort should return.

The ones who are most likely to return are Axel, and Xehanort. Although it is possible all of them shall return.

Quoted for truth.

 

I think certain people should, if I had to pick anybody.
Axel (I think we all agree)
Demyx (I just think he would be fun to hang around if he were whole xD)
That's all I got. xD

 

The Heartless wasn't defeated merely. It was conquered utterly and all that remained of Xehanort's Heartless in Riku was the taint and power of it. So, I do not know if that 'qualifies' or not. The circumstance is quite different than other Heartless that are beaten and their Hearts go on to Kingdom Hearts so it remains to be seen. If there is no Heart at all, there is nothing for a Nobody to go back to and that seemed to be the case after Riku did have to kill it outright in order to survive himself. Maybe though the Light restored it somehow so you could be right but the impression I got in CoM was he destroyed the whole spirit of Xehanort's Heartless but had the remaining power he had to hold in his own Heart. Note in KH2 that he had control over his own personality even when in the form and there was really no sign of the personality of the Heartless at all.

 

This revelation intrigues me.

Nomura, as many know, is a genius in most respects.
He is an expert in many fields concerning character creation, artistry, and scenario.
If that is not genius, then I am a nitwit as well.*Insert chuckle of humility here xD*

Nomura knows what his fans want, for he never even sets any relationships for sure.
Indeed, we know for certain Wakka and Lulu get married, and that Leon and Rinoa and Tidus and Yuna have deep feelings for each other, but otherwise, it's not all set-in-stone.
Considerably, that must also go for fan-yaoi, but in that case, it's much better what Nomura is doing, than what J. K. Rowling did with Dumbledore as a character.
My example there: Dumbledore is coanically gay for sure, so theres no imagining him and Ms. Mcgonagle(Sp?) together, because, despite their advanced age, I always thought they would make a great elderly couple.
But, we have the freedom to imagine Leon with Rinoa as much as many can imagine Leon with Seifer.
Or, more closely related to Kingdom Hearts, AxelxLarxene, which is hinted in CoM, and AxelxRoxas.

It would seem, once again, Nomura knows his fans well enough.

 

I'd like to see Zexion and Demyx come back, so that they could start a rock-band with Leon, Yuffie and Tifa!!!
But seriously, Saix deserved to come back. You've already given all the reasons I could think of.
Larxene, Luxord, Lexaeus and Xaldin should come back as bad-guys, they're all kinda cool.
Xigbar... NEVAH!!! I just don't like him...
As for the rest... Meh.

 

Xemnas
- He's going to be back in KH3. I'm 100% positive. Xehanort will return. Not that he deserves it, but he's on the list because he's going to be in his original state. That's a given. Despite Riku having his essence inside him, his Heartless was still destroyed back in the first game, and it wasn't specifically his heart that Riku had inside. It was more of a shadow that the darkness had left due to Ansem posessing him.

Basically, is him, Marluxia, and Xaldin, who I think, should not come back, but at the same time, I think is also unfair for them not to. Xemnas by plot got away with it, and the rest, I want ALL back. I'm into the believe that without the Org., KH2 would've fallen flat and out the door, and be boring without any plot to go with. Not that the plot was perfect either, in my opinion, as there are screws lose. I'm not expecting to see everyone, but it will be a nice add on, and to see what lives they lead, what worlds they come from. I'm sure that as real people, they aren't as bad, they will be more aware with having emotions and feelings.

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In no particular order.

Axel: Self-explainable. Actually, he's already back to his original self. Go him.

Demyx: Self-explainable

Luxord: I'd say he does, he didn't do much of anything that would consider him being extracted from getting his heart back, as he was merely following orders, and was working, as the rest, towards the goal. He also didn't have such a rough personality, and seems quite the British guy, if you will xD. Well spoken and has this flare.

Xigbar: I think he was fun, and hilarious, and seems to me like your over the top uncle who thinks he's still in his early twenties. In other words, he's cool . And in the novels, was like a adult figure to Demyx as well, who he was nice to, so that's plus points. In fact, he actually seems to care for the neophytes, from what I've read in facial expressions. He deserves to be back.

Larxene: I found her to be so interesting, awesome, the opposite of perfection, and she went away with so litte time, that it left me wondering just who she really is. I really wouldn't mind seeing her original self, as what she did wasn't that cruel. Some kicks here, a slap, and teases, yet nothing to say that she didn't deserve her own heart back. There were worse things she could've done, to be honest. I was surprised she was actually so mild.

Saïx: I don't care what anyone says, he does deserve a heart. He's the one that wanted and desired it the most, in my opinion, as even in his death he was wishing to have it, and most of his actions only is to further that goal. He was loyal and obeyed because that's what would get him what was missing inside, which is why perhaps he got such a rank as second in command. I could also go on with he's a Nobody, the feelings not involved, etc., but I'll end it here, as I want to keep the list short. Besides, considering his elf ears, it would be nice to know where he came from >.>.

Lexaeus: I like him. He didn't do anything wrong, basically, except fight Riku, which is normal. Can't tell for character, since, well....he didn't really talk.

Zexion: I think he also should come back, as he was young, smart, calculative, and out of the apprentices, he's the one that piques my interest the most, other than Xiggy. We barely know much about him anyway.

Vexen: OMG o.O. Yeah, I think it would be nice for him to come back. Again, I don't find anything that he did consistently wrong, and before you bring up Repliku, keep in mind that this is the relationship of a scientist and his creation, which he gave life to. Without Vexen, there would be no Repliku. And seeing as he is what he worked on, he will view it and treat it as one, because that's what he was built for. It was experiment. Something that has to be taken into account. All Vexen did really, was give the permission to implant memories and test him. I'm not saying Repliku has feelings and many other things, cause I know, and I don't need it, and that's not what I'm talking about anyway. Is more of a point of view in reasoning.

As for his personality, I don't think that's a good example for him not to come back. He didn't do as much wrong as the rest on that castle have done. Creepy. Yer. Yet, I don't think that's justifiable enough.

In other words, he does what sells :D.

Which is the company's own mantra as well, if you've noticed.

I mean, after all these years, they still haven't given out who Cloud loved, Aerith or Tifa. They want to keep fans arguing and giving out statements to keep them interested (then again, with all these FF7 compilations...). But is when it gets out of hand and kind of freaky, that's the negative, and it gets seriously annoying. That annoyance, is what turns me against them, and in the end, completely hate it.