Birth by Sleep One of the Kingdomologists best works of theory

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  1. daxma Hei Long: Unrivalled under the Heavens

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    This a giant theory that is presented to you all by the kingdomologists.This giant theory was slowly developed by three of us;Daxma(me),DemoN:||D@ys and DaedHeart.It explains bits about 358/2 days and possibly KH3 along with BBS.Special thanks to trizzle13:


    EDIT:Concerning the Aqua's nobody thing i'm completely wrong.I think that Xion is the result of kiari's heart transfering into her own body again.When her heart went out of her body Namine was created and when soras heart went out of his body roxas was created but when kiari's heart returned to kiari another nobody was created,Xion.I noticed during the events when she goes up against riku in the screenshots riku says her keyblade is fake and she says "You trying to decieve me too" in rough translation which means she had been told it before but what i think it is, is a keyblade but the reason it's the shape of the keyblade is the fact that Xion has the same memories as sora which means that since their memories are the same and the keychain is said to be memory that is why she holds the kingdom key and the reason that she can use the keyblade is because she is soras nobody she can use a keyblade the same as sora and roxas.The reason that Xion is a she is because she created by kiari's her.
    We didn't set out to make this giant theory.It just managed to string itself together as we did them.
     
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    Eh...nice little theories there. Just some things I wanted to correct/add/comment on...
    The 14th member thing...she's a new character. Not Aqua's nobody because of the timelines(I wonder why people keep forgetting that the timeline is the thing that kills the theory, regardless of the fact that SE characters don't age much). Xion...hmmm...*wonders if her somebody will appear*
    The Souleater theory thing...eh...Souleater is just a sword of darkness(or however you want to describe it) that morphed into a keyblade when Riku was "rechosen" by it.
    Now...from what I've read...the Dark Apprentice has a slight chance of being Terra because he has ties to darkness and stuffs...Although Terra keeps fighting MX so that probably throws that theory down the drain. They appear at the same time.
     
  3. daxma Hei Long: Unrivalled under the Heavens

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    As i have noticed,Nomura laughs every time he is asked the question of whether the new member is new.This leads me to believe that he is taking the question literally on purpose.The way he thinks that we think its Aqua when it actually her nobody which he knows.
    The thing about the souleaster adds up.Have a look at vid.I actually think it fits.I don't really know how to reply to your last comment to be honest.
     
  4. What? 『 music is freedom 』

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    This is an amazing theory. But there are two things that puzzle me. One, Terra thinks that Sora is Xehanort? I really do not see why. Two, if Aqua's nobody is the 14th member, how can her name be "Xion"?
     
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    I can explain the Xion thing. It follows a different rule, like Namine. Or it is a different name, like Xemnas took.

    My question is where the Soul-Taker fits in. Also, if the final Xemnas was a clone, why did all the Dusks vanish when he did.
     
  6. RoxaSora2010 Nulla è reale. Tutto è lecito.

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    Terra thought that Sora was Xehanort in KH2 FM because he lost his memories and he didn't know anymore how MX was. He also says a thing like "Is that you" because Terra can see Roxas and thought he was Ven and he remembered Ven because he is his friend.
     
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    i still say that Ven is Soras long lost Brother

    ...i made a theroy about it...but it fell away into the darkness of page 2
     
  8. What? 『 music is freedom 』

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    Namine was made in a different way.

    Ah. I see now.
     
  9. daxma Hei Long: Unrivalled under the Heavens

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    The name thing that the 14th member has means nothing.It is just a name.

    Ya,ven is sora's older brother.I had a very old theory to prove it on the front page of my family(Kingdomology).I also tell you why sora got the keyblade riku was destineed to get and riku got the keyblade sora was destined to get.
     
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    i think that...Kingdom Hearts is becomeing more...Mature...so if there isnt a long lost sibling...

    i will cry :P
     
  11. What? 『 music is freedom 』

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    Then the artists who made KH2 Kairi are perverted idiots.

    Back On-Topic. The Heartless may appear in BBS, correct?
     
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    I think they do because i think the apprentice's had already been studying the heartless years before ansem the wise even had a clue.
     
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    No, Ansem the Wise had been studying Hearts before. What I think is that the game's story is in the same timeline of the apprentices discovering the Heartless.
     
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    Hmm, so that's why there aren't the Heartless, but just those new enemies :mellow:....
     
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    woo.. those are possibly the best theories i ever read, but you succeed in burning my eyes out @_@
     
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    EDIT:Concerning the Aqua's nobody thing i'm completely wrong.I think that Xion is the result of kiari's heart transfering into her own body again.When her heart went out of her body Namine was created and when soras heart went out of his body roxas was created but when kiari's heart returned to kiari another nobody was created,Xion.I noticed during the events when she goes up against riku in the screenshots riku says her keyblade is fake and she says "You trying to decieve me too" in rough translation which means she had been told it before but what i think it is, is a keyblade but the reason it's the shape of the keyblade is the fact that Xion has the same memories as sora which means that since their memories are the same and the keychain is said to be memory that is why she holds the kingdom key and the reason that she can use the keyblade is because she is soras nobody she can use a keyblade the same as sora and roxas.The reason that Xion is a she is because she created by kiari's her.

    This theory doesn't mean that the rest of our theory is wrong.It just means the aqua theory is wrong.
     
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    Nomaru has stated "There is no connection between Aqua and the New member of the Org (Xion)"
     
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    Well it's true. Xion can't be Aqua's nobody because of their names. ALMOST every org. member (those whose real identity were revealed) has a name that if the x is removed you can spell their real name.

    for example: Vexen-Even Zexion-Ienzo Xigbar-Braig etc.


    There's no Aqua in Xion. the only names that I came up with are...

    1. Ion
    2. Ino
     
  19. daxma Hei Long: Unrivalled under the Heavens

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    You but ion,nio,noi or ino might be short hand for something.I'm not sure on either of the 14th member theories but i know at least one of them is right.
     
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    And we are assuming that Axel's name is Lea or Ale or something which sound lame? It could be that she had no memory of her former life similar to Roxas. After all, if Roxas is connected to Ven...which in my mind there is no way in hell he cannot be connected...then what's to say that the same memory issue can't hold true for Aqua to Xion? Xemnas may have just given her the name to allow her to fit in with the other Org members.

    Could the 14th member be someone else...? Sure, but it again, is definitely not Namine. I've said it now for several months and know it just isn't. Could this girl be connected to Kairi in some way? Yes, she could. We seem to be moving into the three aspects of being with Nomura's account. DiZ even explained there are 3 components to life in the KH universe. Heart, Soul and Body. Yen Sid also went into this to some degree when explaining Nobodies. So perhaps with what Xehanort's Heartless did to her years ago, sending her out, this new character was created. Though, I still have to say I'm more strongly leaning towards Aqua and Xion being somehow connected in somewhat the same manner as Roxas and Ven. Only these two options really make sense to me unless he's just tossing in some new girl entirely which makes me ponder 'why the mystery?'.