oh you think your game takes skill and you can aim like a badass?

You are claiming the game is hard, when in reality players who play for 5+ years and can't do basic moves are more likely just bad, and casuals as jube will no doubt in a minute yell.

 

Yeah, they are bad. Oft times, though not always, many times they're pretty good, just unable to pull off the moves for example I was top 20 glad at one point yet I still cannot pull off PPQ (never mind PPQ++ (._. )) or QBF (then again only 3 people globally have ever pulled off a QBF)

Casuals tend to either try to learn and then quit, or spray, get destroyed, and then quit.

I would agree that the game doesn't require if one could just walk into the game and be able to beat decent players, or if one could win by spamming, but the game requires a huge knowledge of mechanics, as well as being able to predict and know how/when to counter your enemies movements (countering more specific to glad than to fights involving guns but still). IF it were a case where someone could just join and instantly be good, or could just practice for X amount of time and be guaranteed to be good I'd admit it requires no skill but neither of these are the case.

 

You know what else would be hard to learn and just as unplanned by developers?

Adlib with Gaming Mechanics: The Game.

 

I chuckled, only because a lot of the time you find yourself having to improvize in glad matches, especially if your opponent didn't move as you predicted and you suddenly find yourself on the defensive against the ropes.

God damn some people were brilliant at locking.

 

Still rather play runescape.

I went there.

 

Look the point is.

When it comes to a multiplayer game it's the skill level and what is required to be good that is hard.

King of Fighters XIII is a harder game then Super Smash Bros Brawl not because the computers of each game bur because of what it takes to be good.
I know people who have placed high in tournaments after playing Smash bros for a month, if within a month you can call yourself tournament levels of good at a game then it's not a hard game.
Understand?
You just said that you've seen people who train once a week beat people who train everyday.
That means there's something fundamentally wrong with the game if it's rewarding people who put LESS time into the game.

 

dear...
GOD NO.

I do.

Spoiler

that wouldn't happen with gunz but I understand your point.

 

Runescape's community is second only to YouTube for quality.

 

You just said that there are people like this, so it does happen in GunZ

 

He played for a few years back when international gunz was still around.After it died he only played ijji once every so often, yet remained top1

 

And that's the sign of an easy game.

 

Because people no matter how much they try cannot best someone who doesn't try much?

More a sign that he is intrinsically better then them, no?

This is the guy that's responsible for creating/discovering some of the best current gladiator techniques, him and cerb were the ones that came up with **** like angle/phase/180 massive/stalk et al

 

God this thread is going in circles

 

Yes
That's what I said.
Not even Mike Tyson in his prime would ever say "I train once a week"

 

Hrm.

I now properly see the point.

 

Have you played Counterstrike 1.6?

 

I have indeed.