Nova

what in the hell is going on

 

If you can taste a murderer, or God, you know they exist

 

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Could you not do this in a dream or hallucination?

 

Are we talking like...bread pudding or chocolate pudding? Not sure I want to taste a murderer or a divine entity in my pudding. One being cannibalism, which is bad, and the other being some thing that might just make one's head explode ... which is also bad.

 

I dunno, you'd have to first of all have a dream or hallucination vivid enough to convince yourself you tasted it, but also remember once you recover

 

1. Definitely possible.
2. You could continue to hallucinate or dream indefinitely.

 

My mistake.

 

I wouldn't trust a person who perpetually hallucinates

 

Stuff. Stuff is going on.

 

Is that supposed to be an argument or what?

 

If you believe everything a person who hallucinates says you'd be dead in a week

 

Still not seeing a point.

"If you can taste a murderer, or God, you know they exist"

In this case, 'you' are the one hallucinating. Do you, the one hallucinating, know that these things exist by tasting them?

No?

Then I rest my case.

 

you realize you're not actually tasting them just because you're convinced you're tasting them, right?
You have to go into a room with a bunch of people and have a spoonful of God or a murderer

 

can we all just agree that tapioca is the best?

 

ew what no

 

What is the difference between hallucinating doing that and 'actually' doing that? At best, the only constant you can appeal to is the people around you by asking, 'Am I eating a spoonful of God or a murderer?'.

But what if those people are also a part of the hallucination? You cannot prove that anything is real with observation alone and even if you wanted to ask others to agree with you you cannot prove that others exist by observing them alone.

Therefore you cannot truly know that anything exists other than yourself and your own consciousness which can doubt the existence of everything else.

 

The hallucination that appeals to a general consensus is as good as reality

 

I would argue that the hallucination is as good as reality period. Consider two scenarios:

Scenario 1: You hallucinate everyone around you and that you are eating a spoonful of God or a murderer. Everyone agrees with you.

Scenario 2: You hallucinate everyone around you and that you are eating a spoonful of God or a murderer. Everyone disagrees with you.

See it yet?