New Sanctuary

? How come I don't know about this plan?

 

Because it was made two days ago, and was only a serious option since yesterday?

Either way, now you know.

 

....but I don't quite understand the plan.

 

In a nutshell, the pressure of sneaking on is getting to Absol. Pyro and I used the internet to find her home phone number. Pyro is planning on ringing it and lying/recalling until she gets a hold of Absol. Then she'll do some inspirational speech, or something.

The gamble is that if Pyro doesn't lie well enough, and gets found out, Absol gets in a heap of trouble, and will probably be unable to return. Also, Absol gets no say in whether Pyro rings her, because she's not available to contact. Thus we're playing around with her happiness without permission.

 

.....you guys found her number? >_> Dude, that's kind of creepy. And she has a choice. If she doesn't want to come back because of all the stupidity and drama and arrogance and ignorance of some of the people here, she doesn't have to.

 

They exchanged cell phone numbers ages ago, but the cell phones got lost, so it's slightly less on the stalker-scale.

Also, it's not really her choice to leave, and it's got nothing to do with anything on this site. I take it you're not aware of her family's stance on the internet, or how she's been coming on ever since she joined up?

She doesn't know Pyro has returned, and we think that would change her mind. If someone has no access to anything that can take them online, how do you contact them, apart from with a phone?

 

.....oh right! I think I remember reading some departure threads....or was it Xaale's....okay. So you guys aren't forcing her to come back. Then I approve.

 

She didn't make a departure thread.

In a nutshell, the exchange goes something along the lines of:

Her: It's becoming too troublesome to come online at the moment, I'll be back in six months.

Us: Pyro is back. Is that enough to make you take the trouble to come online?

except for us to ask that last part, there's a few hoops we have to jump through.

 

For the record, my vocal skills are amazing. While twisting facts and making sandwhich hobo's sound like a building executive, my lying is legendary, and if you so need something of a.....what are those thingies....alas...alaby...alias, whatever you call emz, I can assist, if it is truelly that big an issue.

Of course, it'd require me to ask what the situation is, and I have semi confidence in the idea that such info might not want to be disclosed for such a small form of assistance. None the less, I offer my services in the mere fact that as my location states, I hate BS, and from the sounds of the situation, I doubt her parents have a non-BS reason for such things.


And for the record, the gamble is only right if you have a sure chance of winning. I believe that there should be more planning if you wish to make such a call. Perhaps send a practice dummy whom which she would trust on this site to give the call first, who asks for "VIctoria", and if it is someone else besides her, then it will obviously be a wrong number. But it gives you an idea of who usually picks up the phone.


ALso for the record fire, Im pretty certain that she'll have no beef if they call her home while taking correct measures. Of course, the question remains, just how close art thou peoples with her?


And I apologize for getting involved, but I felt like saying something. Such complications are things that I have had a fair share of so I figured i'd throw in 4 cents

 

Oh they're close all right. Best buddies. I always felt a little bit on the outside of the circle. But yes. They're very close, especially since they exchanged numbers. I'm not so trusting of the internet. I'm sure I'll be more open to actual contact later on when I'm more capable.

 

So long as you trust the person you're talking to, I see no issue with it. Only online contact I ever am against is online dating (that is of course, if it is a long distance instead of like an hour tops. I believe people can fall inlove online, but I find that it dies in time due to lack of ability to see one anouther, unless they can compensate)

 

By compensating, do you mean pictures and such?

 

I think online relationships can work, but only if you're rich/spoiled or old enough to make something actually happen.

When I was younger, due to shyness and awkwardness I was more into online dating. Also ended the same way, in terms or not being able to stay loyal, or one or the other being too controlling, or not enough time together, or just the lack of physical feel to it and knowing it would be years before we could actually see each other.

I'm in an online relationship now that's tremendously different because I'm old enough that my parents know about him and there's no "You don't know if he's forty!!!", "You don't need a boyfriend right now!", "Hormones?! WHAT IS THIS BLASPHEMY." Because I'm eighteen in a month and what can they do about it now? I'm the type who will defy the hell out of my parents if I feel something is unfair. But meh. ...Actually, I'll defy just about anything. >>;

Because of that, and because he's legal and everything, his mom knows about me too. Thus, there is a plan in the works (not idle plans, but concrete plans.) to get him up here for my prom, and there are already several things happening to get us seeing each other more and more and eventually he's moving up here with his godmother (which he was planning on doing before he met me so no one is actually moving for each other).

Because we have something to actually look forward to, and something obtainable, and something with an actual date on it, it's a TON easier to hold out, stay faithful and focus on building and strengthening our relationship without the paranoia that in the end, nothing will ever happen. I suppose, that's hope. That, with the fact that he and I have extreme amounts of imagination that get us by as well.

As for Pyro/Absol's situation. I think it sounds just a bit selfish, no offense... I mean, eventually...I'm sure Absol will find a way to get back online, and instead of risking her ass, wouldn't it be...better to wait? It sounds dangerous.

 

Cool. I would never be able to do that. My parents would kill me. And yes. It does sound extremely risky. Since her parents sound like my parents. Except worse. No other way?

 

Well that failed badly. Turns out her mother put her cellphone number down as the landline on all records. I know a landline exists, but it's impossible to find. Pyrø didn't mention how she knew Absol, so how much damage was done is unknown.

This opens up a chance for a rather messy situation, doesn't it? You approve of normal contact online, and where there's normal friendship, there's a chance of stronger feelings developing. Indeed, you've acknowledged that feelings can exist online. That means that the people in question then have to choose to whether to try to make it work out, or simply ignore their emotions, and impair an existing friendship. With me, I'd much rather take the gamble, and try to make it work. Certainly, there's a large chance of failure, but that's the same with all relationships. After all, only one relationship can actually be considered a success in a life.

Actively seeking a relationship online (e.g. via a dating site) is something I'd be less prone to do, as a normal relationship would most likely be preferable; however if I were to stumble into an online relationship, I'd quite happily give it my all. The alternative of giving up at the start because of possible hardships just seems so incredibly cowardly.

Or can become rich/old enough to make something happen.

That's one of my qualms with the situation, and why I posted the question in the first place. If it were just me, I'd be on your side and play it safe, but because Pyrø's prepared to go along with it, I have less worries.

 

O_o.....tricky. Do you think everything'll be okay?

 

Who knows?

She'll return eventually, be it next week, or next year. This isn't the first time she's vanished.

 

Yeah...but back then she was closely anticipated by a great multitude of friends and admirers. Now it's only the staff and a few others.

 

I'll put it a different way. She said specifically that she'd pop in on Facebook or here from time to time. At some point, she'll see Pyrø's messages, and probably arrange a conversation.

 

Compensating. Lets say I can visit them once a month an the love is strong, THEN its posssible. Otherwise, its torture, strains the love, and it dies. I see it happen all too often :/

As for you Mrs,Claus, by the gods, I give you my full support. I was in simalure in such a time except the girl turned out to be a ****, but that was a few years back. The fact that you have parents that will agree to helping and the same with he (I know many a person with brats for parents that make things difficult >>), I have to say, makes me happy to know that its worken out with ya. I agree with everything you've said thus far xD

And on the rich and spoiled comment, I believe we call those desperate men and gold diggers, aka, online ****s of the current generation. I am neighbored with two of such. They have 6 kids and make me look like im in my late 20's. Godda love spoiled people...(for the record, im 17)

As for your statement on the matter my pikachu loving friend, I would agree, but only under the circumstance that both people are actually willing to make it work, which I often see lacking on one end. In the end, I think the wiser is to avoid. But as you say, there are risks in relationships to begin with, so I guess it can't be helped either way.
Though for the record, I agree with going on the gamble, but only if you know full well what you might be getting yourself into. I did such and cuz of it 8 months worth of a crush landed in heart break. But the regret does not exist since in the end.....well, since when is life fun when it doesn't come with the full drama package. But none the less, your point is proven and agreeable.



As for all comments on the Pyro, though none of my business, P's got the right attitude. No point in being negative about it anyways. Get more done when you are less mopish after all.