No Thanks New 'Elite' Usergroup

We have no idea. It's really up to the staff.

 

So you voted no because it wasn't exactly the way you wanted it?

 

Unfortunately, you do not even have Premium yet and are not close to getting it, so my argument still applies. By the time you actually get to that level, you will find the cheesiness annoying.

On the contrary, Veteran brings up images of soldiers. I have a lot of trouble swallowing that title because it is used most often to describe them and not other people. When someone says "There is a Veteran over there in the corner", they mean a war veteran. I don't like that association.

It is not being suggested that we use it in usernames. They mean user titles. The problem with it is that it allows people to extract code or put things on the site that we don't like. It is security risk and can get annoying.

It is, and it will be until the staff make an approval.

 

So... You voted no. Because it wasn't exactly the way you want it to be.

 

That is exactly what is to be expected.

If someone answers yes, are they answering yes to your suggest or yes to the general idea? How many will think you mean the actual suggestion?

 

I was agreeing with you, though. If they were right.

 

I see. Because you're closer to Prem you must be far more sophisticated and mature than me. I bow to your superior knowledge of how I will feel in the future. It might not hurt for you to realise that just because you don't like an idea doesn't automatically make it a bad one.

Hmm I get your point, but we already use the phrase Veteran quite liberally on this site, it would just cement that fact. Veterans are experienced people who are respected for what they have done and what they have contributed to, in this case to the site. Veterans are people who have earned respect and reward, as opposed to Nobles who are born into it and have done jack all to deserve it.

 

I have one question. Why do we need another usergroup, and instead not add perks to the still barren Premium usergroup? Wouldn't focus shift from being prem to being 'Noble' and prem would just be an in-between no one would care about because it's just a stepping stone with perks that in comparison to noble, aren't very appealing?

Why not just have a member council sort of thing instead of new usergroup that adds to the already high number of colors and color debates (color polls wahhh)?

I agree with adding more perks and more cool stuff. I just don't see why we need to make another tier color/rank. That's just my question on this matter.

 

You misunderstood me. I meant that because you are far away from it, it will take you a long time. You will probably change your mind by the time you get there.

With that said, I am directly implying that cheesiness is to be avoided by the mature unless as a joke. It is called cheesy because it is of low quality or consistency.

chees·y
adjective /ˈCHēzē/ 
cheesier, comparative; cheesiest, superlative

Like cheese in taste, smell, or consistency
- a pungent, cheesy sauce

Cheap, unpleasant, or blatantly inauthentic
- a big cheesy grin
- cheesy motel rooms​

Mature people only use cheesy things for irony, or in a "so bad it's good" way. That is because mature people generally prefer quality.

Time is not the only factor.

But the nature of the requirement means that regardless of the connotations, these particular Nobles will be earning their seats. It sounds better to me not because of meaning, but because Veteran is an ugly word, especially by comparison. It sounds gritty and unrefined and does not roll off of the tongue well.

 

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Yeah its been brought up before.


I guess there haves to be a new thing. After all, we've had premium for a long time.

 

I do not care about the perks as much as the requirements.

I want something people care about to be harder to achieve. The thing people care about most on this site in that regard is easily definable status. People spam to get to Premium so that their pink name stands out compared to their old one and so that they can feel accomplished and see the results. A minimal change in capacities is not going to be enough incentive to increase activity.

If we were to combine this with Premium, we would have to take it away from those who already have it and make the coloured name harder to get as well, or it would defeat the entire purpose of the suggestion.

 

......Well Im glad your voted opinion won't have that big of an impact.


Lets just see how it works out if this does manage to happen. And honestly, I don't feel cool or anything being Premium. Although I do like the colour. What I miss most is the orange color.....


BRING IT BACK PLZ

 

I haven't exactly been able to read, but has someone said that 3,000 posts might be a bit much?

(sorry)​

 

I would like to point out that a forum dedicated to a children's Disney Video game is hardly MENSA. Now I have no problem with people being mature on here, but as for rudeness there is no justifiable reason. Besides that, it is possible to be mature and to retain a sense of humour.

Oh, and thanks for the definition, I didn't know what the word I just used meant.

I see you've now edited your post to remove that threat about exposing how immature I present myself just from what you've seen from my profile. If you still want to go through with it, please feel free on a separate occasion, but I feel this is already dangerously close to spam

I also find it funny how much you are using the word 'mature' with 'cheese'.

Anyway, I see what people mean about it just escalating, as more people getting Elite status, another tier will be wanted and so on. However would that be so easy? If the target is high enough and difficult enough to get to to begin with, it might first of all stop many getting there in the first place. I doubt that enough members would stay around long enough for it to get in that kind of position again. I may be completely wrong on that though.

 

Strictly speaking, my vote on the poll would be no. But it encompasses so much more than that.

Like how this would affect the username color polls. Or how status would be affected. It is not a no on the sentiment, but on the usergroup idea.

Perks and ideas to be employed? Yes Plz. I just don't understand why those milestones cannot be within the premium color itself. Just no more colors. It's bad enough when a color poll in the prem section happens. Lol.

Plus, you'd avoid a bigger fraction of the claims to elitism involved. Because then the perks would be internal and sub-divided. I realize that making tiers through the system is impossible. But anything else we do on our own is fair game.

Then we also have the fact that premium wouldn't really be needed as anything more than an in-between. Just posting thoughts here and there.

 

But naming an achievement higher than Premium something sub-par based on the fact that you should have a sense of humour is not strictly speaking reasonable.

You are welcome.

That is why I removed it. It was not necessary to express my point and I have no reason to get in trouble over something so petty.

The problem presented with it escalating also counts for Premiums. There is no reason why a second tier after normal would not succumb to the exact same argument. Premium has been around for a long time and it really has lost its value. It has become inflated.

You must have missed my previous post, but you said pretty much the same thing on the last page. This was my concern, which still applies to your opinion:

 

I read it. It just felt more like a personal opinion? So I wasn't sure if that was the overall view.

Easily definable status? Is that the overall reason behind this new usergroup? I thought it was to try and increase activity. But even then, activity from premiums? Because I can see a sudden activity rise from premiums to try and get Noble status. But then there's really no point to having premium other than it being a tier. Thereby not really needing much in terms of perks or even a section of its own. It'd be deader than dead (more so than now)

And then color polls. Not only would premiums need to bear in mind the colors of staff but also those of Nobles. Which would be a nagging problem considering how prems are with their colors. Lol.

And you can't really know if an increase in activity within the premium usergroup won't increase premium activity in general. Just like keeping premium requirements as is wouldn't really defeat the purpose of the suggestion. At least not from this particular standpoint I'm presenting.