Nazi Germany the victor of WWII

Well, my Latin/American History teacher says that while the Nazis were evil and had to be stopped, they did have the greatest army in the world and couldn't have been stopped if the rest of the world hadn't been cheap and ganged up on them. I agree with that. Something else I took from this is that if lives are at stake, it's okay to cheat.

 

Of course they could've won. Everyone knows their mistake was invading Russia and trying to beat the Russians as well as the Russian winter.

 

I would venture to say that the Spartans of ancient Greece had the greatest army in the world, in terms of training. Now, for strategy and numbers, yea, Germany was pretty intense, but Spartans were selected and trained from birth to fight. You can't get more hardcore than that.

 

No army is ever the greatest if they are beaten.

 

The only reason Sparta lost power was because they were destroyed by the majority of the other Greek armies, backed by Persia, if I remember correctly. A lot like what happened to Germany, actually. Everyone dies at some point, no matter how badass they are.

 

True. Most civilizations are eliminated because they spread they're troops over so much land. Which is what would have happened possibly if Germany didn't invade Russia and took over all of Europe.

 

They probably would have...The big miostake: Betraying russia...In winter.

 

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With how Stalin was, they would have betrayed Germany. There were two threats at the time.. one was the Bolsheviks in the Soviet Union, and the other was the Germans who were ignoring their treaty from WW I. Seeing as both were doing things to their people and the Soviets were into expansionism and the more dangerous threat, Europe and the U.S. saw the Germans as the lesser of the two evils in the 30s. This turned out to be a mistake, of course, because then Germany began mass expansionism and WW II enacted.

The only way I could have seen Germany winning WWII would have been with the help of the Japanese. The German invasion into the U.S.S.R. at first was actually pretty darn successful and only some well played tactics served the Russians at all, as well as the Germans were not given proper attire etc for dealing with one of the worst winters Russia had had in some time. Many people say that if the Germans had not attacked Russia, they could have won, but I do not think so. The U.S. already had a declaration of war so they would have acted if Great Britain were to fall so bad, which would have ended things sooner because the Russians then would have attacked without so much loss. My thought on it is if the Japanese had gone into the other side of the U.S.S.R., instead of focusing on the U.S., they already had China pretty well controlled and were conducting bio-weapon experiments. Instead of testing these at the U.S. they could have sent them into Russian territory and they also could have sent troops etc. From two fronts of attacks, then Stalin's army would have been felled.

Having said that though... Germany would have sooner or later had to deal with the goals of the Japanese too. Both the Germans and the Japanese were doing very cold experimentation, brutal governing and policies and both were 'racists' with ideologies that they were preserving themselves, etc. I believe even with Russia dealt with, they both would have spread themselves too thin and forces would have risen up to contend against them and sooner or later the U.S. had to get involved too. Also, the two were allies but their own agendas would have made things slippery. The war would have been even more bloody had the Japanese assisted with Russia, and there's a good chance Stalin and some others would have been taken out ending the Russian problem for a while, but I believe when it would all be said and done, both the Japanese and Germans would have been taken down too. The leaders were too menacing with their ideals for anyone to think they could remain safe elsewhere.

 

I don't know if they would've won the entire war, but had Germany focused on one city in the Soviet Union, in stead of having three focus points, they potentially could've beaten Russia.
The German's (near) obsession with Stalingrad was probably their downfall. Had Leningrad been a focus point, and had they conquered it, most of the Western Soviet Union would've been in the hands of a (at that point) reliable party, as the Finn's had practically taken back Karelia at that point (and gone a bit further than the original border). From there the German's could've move on to Moscow, and so on, and so on.
Bottom line, had the German's focused at one goal at a time, they could've faired better in the War.

Also, interesting fact: During the 900 day siege, the German's bombarded Leningrad with as many grenades as the Soviets used on the Finn's during one day in the Continuation War.