Kingdom Hearts II Namine as a keyblader

I dont believe, that Namine can use keyblade, cause Kairi didnt really never have one, she did get her keyblade from Riku and then it just disappeared. But IF Namine would have keyblade, i think i would be completlely white oathkeeper.

 

All I have to say on this is: Kairi and a Keyblade. LOL.

Naminé with a Keyblade? LMAO.

Not that I doubt them or anything of the sort, is that Kairi had never shown any type of physical backbone from what we saw of her, and even as she tried to get Sora or help in KH2, she failed as she became a damsel-in-distress again, but got saved by Naminé this time. Her personality from KH1 made a impression on me, and it stuck. She is too girly and looked very pathetic, IMO, when she was swinging that girly keyblade as if she was some tough chick.

Imagining Naminé with a Keyblade is even more weird, cause the girl is so angelic and so frail looking that if you touch, it looks like she'll break. It just doesn't fit, at least outside. She's better off with her own memory manipulating powers, which serve more of a purpose and is very powerful considering it affects the hero and all those around him. She's cool like that.

Is like Saïx said when Kairi and Naminé held up their fists. "If I had a heart, this is where I would die of laughter."

Cause, you know, is true. They just don't look like the fighting types and possess absolutely no threat. You have to be taken seriously to gain respect like that.

Though if it was Larxene and Tifa, then you'd have something to worry about.

 

Well, -why- should Namine get a Keyblade, just because she's Kairi's Nobody? Roxas...he looks like Ven pretty much and I think there's a connection with Sora and Ven that has to be established. Namine though had Kairi's face mirrored and she's this delicate thing. I can't see her resembling anything but Kairi's soul. That's pretty much what the white and light color of her persona radiated to me, especially when DiZ makes the comment that she's less than even other Nobodies. This is because Namine was not the creation from a destroyed body by Darkness. Just really...a soul, since her Heart hid in Sora and her body was kept by Riku.

This is not to say Namine and Kairi to me aren't pretty powerful. Namine, as was pointed out quite a few times, had the power to mess up a person bad by unlinking chained memories and she could rewrite them and also apparently create things she drew. That's some serious amazing power. Kairi can make light doorways apparently by writing a message in a bottle and putting it in the water to reach waters in another section of space. She also, despite being a lot more weak physically than the two boys, has potential. It wouldn't surprise me if while Riku had trained Sora, the two also hadn't taken time to show her some things when she -cared- to learn.

However, I -think- you actually need a Heart to be a Keyblade wielder. Riku lost the Keyblade in KH1 because his desperation and all made his heart weaker than Sora's at the time. The reason why Roxas had the Keyblades...I believe it was to connect him to Sora, and I also think it has to do with something about Ven, but I'm still working up that theory. Axel even asks Roxas if he thinks he -has a heart- and Roxas says he's unsure. I believe he may have had a portion or what he did have was because of the two Keyblades which tied him to Sora, Kairi and Riku. Namine was a special Nobody, sure, but no, she wasn't a Keyblade wielder. Also, she was not a -bad- person, but seriously, she only helped Sora and she messed with Riku freely as well as Riku Replica, and only stood her ground about Sora and then started doing something. She was weak willed and didn't want to be lonely and trapped in the castle. That's not to say I don't think Namine isn't cool. I liked her, but those are the reasons I think she could not.

 

Note: I said if she COULD use it, not whether she HAS to use it. I know as much as the next guy that she probably won't/need to use it. But I'm just talking about the logic here.

Geez get with the subject...

 

Was with the subject. There's no reason that she should be able to use a Keyblade above any other person in the game, excluding Mickey, Sora, Riku and Roxas. I explained the reasons why which one powerful one mostly seems to be that she has no Heart. Roxas may have had some of his Heart, either by connection with the Keyblade and it gave him Oblivion and Oathkeeper or because of something to do with Ven. Namine did not. She also was a person that had been convinced to do wrong things and really did not seem to have much of a conscience over them except when it came to Sora and later, Roxas. Kairi is easily the Keyblade wielder potential, despite the fact that she's physically not that great. Namine, even if built up physically, wouldn't fit the criteria. No heart or weak will seem to be reasons someone will not have a Keyblade, going with the theme of the story. Geez.

 

Ok, yeah, I agree, we're not really looking at the topic as hard as we are our own ideas of Namine' actually USING a Keyblade. But like has been been established, Keyblades choose their wielders depending on the nature and strength of that person's heart.. And can't be held for but a second by anyone who has not been chosen by A Keyblade. (It's been shown that if someone who has been chosen by the Keyblade, CAN hold Keyblades owned by other chosen ones)

So... before we say Kairi & Namine', explain Roxas to me. King Mickey if you would like to. It was actually stated that Riku was chosen by the Keyblade, and then Sora was chosen OVER Riku later. (then Riku made a come-back with his very own Way to Dawn) The king being chosen has yet to be expanded on.

What good reason do you have to accept Roxas as a true, honest wielder of the Keyblade over anybody else? Is it JUST because he was Sora's nobody? If this is the case, and Kairi has proven to be able to HOLD a Keyblade and use it in battle, then Namine' should have this same privilege as Roxas.

 

Roxas had a special tie and I believe he has something to do with Ven. Also he had the Keyblade being connected to a person who was already -chosen- by a Keyblade, as you mentioned, which is Sora. If Ven is in the equation, he too was a Keyblade wielder. Also, the two Keyblades connected to him were Oblivion and Oathkeeper, which were special to Sora and connected Sora to Riku and Kairi. If Ven is in the equation, these two Keyblades may also have connected to Terra and Aqua perhaps. Roxas was definitely in his own scenario and Axel, who was pretty empathic, even if he did not have a Heart did ask if Roxas thought maybe he had a Heart. Axel also said that Sora made him feel as Roxas had done too, that Axel himself had a Heart sometimes. So Roxas is really his own unique self and probably should be considered so.

As for King Mickey, it's clear that he had a Keyblade prior to KH and even in KH was wielding one. He has one in Birth by Sleep which apparently takes place around 10 years prior to the first KH game. So, whether we know 'how' or not, it can be assured that he -is- a Keyblade wielder and so he went to Darkness to find the opposite Keyblade of the Kingdom Key so that the Door to Darkness could be sealed on both sides. Perhaps it was always a Keyblade he was attached to or not, but hopefully we'll learn more in BBS and can get some info from the Coded game. Not sure how much a phone game is going to give us for information but I suppose we'll find out.

Namine however was Kairi's Nobody and she was not said to have a Heart really. She was special in that she was considered less of a Nobody because her body was not lost to Darkness as all other Nobodies were, so essentially she possibly was just Kairi's soul. Without a Heart, I don't think -anyone- can be a Keyblade wielder truly since it seems to operate off the notion it chooses people based off their hearts. Also, Namine was considerably weaker willed than Sora, Riku, Roxas or King Mickey and her motivations until KH2 were rather weak. This is why I do not think she could be a Keyblade wielder as Kairi was. Riku also -gave- Kairi the Keyblade she had and it's theorized at least that he did so out of the strength of her Heart and his friendship to her. I doubt even Riku would -make such a flowery thing- himself, but it's how it turned out because of how girly Kairi is. Namine is very powerful, but she doesn't really meet the criteria to hold one or be chosen. Because of Kairi's will, however, in KH2, where she actually shows she's not just a merry sue and wants to not get left behind, she had her resolve solid. Even though physically she's not much, her Heart is very powerful, and once she had gotten over fears and such, she became more worthy.

 

I'm just saying, Sora and just about everyone around him recognizes that he is a true wielder of the Keyblade. Roxas was "born" by Sora as his Nobody.. and bares resemblance to a shown wielder of the Keyblade in days since past, not to mention Ven's name coincides with Sora in the case of the name meanings. Kairi has also shown herself able to wield a Keyblade. Namine' was born out of Sora as Kairi's Nobody. Also, how can we say she has no relation with Aqua, whose name also coincides with Kairi's? Yes, and I'm not talking about being look-alikes or wearing the same things....

 

Wow...u make everything lengthy u no that...