Birth by Sleep My theory on Ven

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  1. Shizzy Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Let me state the main idea: Maybe Ven is Sora's father. Before you go all crazy and stuff, consider this stuff:

    1. You never hear anything about Sora's dad. In fact, all ever mentioned of his parents is the one short line faintly heard yelled by Sora's mom in KH1.
    2. Ven is seen on Destiny Islands, talking to Terra.
    3. Ven wants to be erased from everyone's memory, so maybe that's why you never hear anything about Sora's dad.
    4. The fight against Master Xehanort couldn't have been too long ago, because you see the King as an apprentice.
    5. Ven looks just like Roxas, so that is where Roxas gets his looks from.

    On the other hand; Ven looks WAY too young to have had Sora when he is 'erased', so it is possible that maybe Ven is actually Sora's older brother.

    Plz don't yell at me if that was a stupid theory...
     
  2. Noise For Love and Justice

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    k..im gonna let you down in a nice way...

    Ven is to young to be sora's dad....and! its a kids game, so having a main character get a girl pregant would probably not go over to well with parents

    but i do agree he is Sora's older brother
     
  3. Dredica SNES was the best.

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    This theory has been stated so many times from so many members that it's HARD to find a theory that doesn't consist of the idea that Ven is Sora's dad or is his older brother. You never hear anything about Riku's mom or dad, so that totally means that Aqua is his mom. You don't hear anything about any of their parents in the game series. But if you must know, Riku says when Destiny Islands is being blown the fu*k up, "We may never see our parents again," or something like that, but the point is that they have parents. And when you say parents, you don't really refer to your own parent(s) and the person you're talking to's parent(s), when you would normally say that you are referring to their parents, and your own, not the total sum of your parent and the other person's parent. Not sure if I worded that right, but I'm pretty sure it's not too hard to figure out. I'm pretty sure Nomura can come up with something better than that. Plus the fact that a nobody is YOU'RE shell, not the person you know's shell/body whatever.

    EDIT: And why would you even have to know about Sora's PARENTS? It's totally irrelevant to the story line.
     
  4. Ultimecia sorceress

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    Same here, the older brother thing is a possibility, but the father thing not so much.
     
  5. Xe54 Kingdom Keeper

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    Now that I think about it, what were Sora and Riku's parents thinking when they found out that their kids were gone for a whole year?
     
  6. Skylight_Defect Hollow Bastion Committee

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    It's a good theory, but I don't think he is Sora's father. I do think though that Ven is related to Sora in some way.
     
  7. Redeyesblackdragon Twilight Town Denizen

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    One Question, where did we come up with the soras older brother relation?

    It is not possible that Ven was sora's freind at a young age, but sora felt strong about him, fagot about him and Roxas took the form of him.
     
  8. Noise For Love and Justice

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    well i did make a theory about it awhile back

    http://www.kh-vids.net/showthread.php?t=68922

    im not saying it couldnt be true..but this is disney we are talking about. and they do have some say in the product they make. due to the fact that they have parents who will call and complain and i doubt SE wouldnt put them in that position.
     
  9. Redeyesblackdragon Twilight Town Denizen

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    that peside the point could it not be that Ven was sora's freind at a young age, but sora felt strong about him, forgot about him, and Roxas took the form of him.
     
  10. Noise For Love and Justice

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    xDDDDD no comment

    but BACK ON TOPIC!

    ...why cant it be that Sora had a brother...who left...and erased everyones memories so that he would not be missed...

    but later his younger brother's nobody took the form of his long lost brother because his heart never really forgot

    just saying. Ven looks and seems to young to be a daddy.
    :P
     
  11. Dredica SNES was the best.

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    Read my theory, it seems to make more sense to me:

    http://www.kh-vids.net/showthread.php?t=69229

    It seems that the only person who has interest in Sora/Riku in the story is Terra (based on what we've seen so far, plus the Final Mix+ battle). Once you erase something, it can't really come back the same exact way :\ Namine' or Aqua (Since Aqua resembles Kairi and Riku mixed to me...) might have something to do with the whole forget thing. Namine' can manipulate people's memory, and Aqua's armor was in some room...so I don't know. I'm making what I've said so far up from the top of my head, so don't call me ******ed.
     
  12. Noise For Love and Justice

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    i think memoires will play a major part in this game too...

    like Sora FORGETTING is older BROTHER

    >:3

    but granted. this game isnt coming out for awhile. and we could be seriously wrong with everything!
     
  13. Zexion King's Apprentice

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    that's a good theory..
    but..Terra and Ven Saw Riku and Sora playing (together)..
    wait a sec...
    HOW OLD IS VEN..!?
     
  14. Salty Destiny Islands Resident

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    Big flaw in your theory: Ven is too young.
     
  15. Noise For Love and Justice

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    15 ,16 but the point is
    wayyyyy to young to be a daddy....master Xehanort however...is not too young :P

    i just think SE would use this idea.

    its too....controversial.
     
  16. Redeyesblackdragon Twilight Town Denizen

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    obviously, but Xehanort is not his daddy, because in KH2 he asked who he was. lol
     
  17. Dredica SNES was the best.

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    It's not impossible...just pointing that out.

    Yeah, totally makes since. Only Sora forgets about his older brother, that's what you're telling me, so it was decided that no one tell Sora about his older brother, am I right?
     
  18. Xe54 Kingdom Keeper

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    What if Xehanort (kh2) is Riku's dad?
     
  19. Noise For Love and Justice

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    no...like everyone one the island forgot about Ven...because he made them...not just Sora
     
  20. Dredica SNES was the best.

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    No, because in the Terra battle cut scene, Terra (if that even is Terra) says Ven's and Aqua's name, so it wouldn't make sense that everybody on the island forgot about Ven, because it's obvious that Terra spent some time on Destiny Island if it was in the trailer, I actually think that's their home, sense Terra, Ven, and Aqua (since he had to be talking to her, because Terra remembered him, and Ven was talking to a shadow saying, "We're friends, right? Therefore I wanted to ask you something, erase me."), the other reason why I'm guessing that Destiny Island is TVA's home is because they obviously went on a quest, to go to other worlds (since they travel, duh), and then eventually came back, just like Riku, Kairi, and Sora. And wouldn't you think that if you were asking a friend to erase you, you would mean to make your friend forget about you, not make everybody else forget about you. But whatever, I don't expect you guys to reason with obvious facts.
    Also, he asked one person to erase him. You can't take the word erase so literal, he might have meant something on the lines of "Keep me from existing", just like how Roxas doesn't exist.