Birth by Sleep My Long Theory

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  1. Aster Phoenix Traverse Town Homebody

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    Well I have been contemplating on the matter and have come up with a possible theory.

    Well what we do know

    Ven Aqua and Terra
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    are friends and students of some sort of keyblade academy


    Lead by a elderly man Master Xehanort
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    Anouther keyblade master named Master Eraqus
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    and a apprentices named Vanites.
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    Vanites and Xehanort Misteriasly disappear

    Master Eraqus send Terra Ven And Aqua to find time

    About the same time a mysteriose enemy appears called the unversed

    From then on we don't know much

    Theory Time!

    Vanities and Ven have a connect unknown as shown here
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    My guess.
    Vanites is a teachers pet and is constently spying on Ven and what not
    First sign of trouble and Master Xehanort will no about it
    Vanitis is in Ven's room because he is going through his belongings.
    Ven looks angry and Vanitias seems to have found something.

    This leads to a huge grudge between the two

    Also an unknown fact Ven is too young to have graduated
    yet he left with the others, even though he is to young.

    Theory
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    Master Eraques sends Terra and Aqua and refuses to send Ven
    Which causes a huge argument and leading to Ven sneaking away with Terra And Aqua.
    ________

    Now...We can't skip this.
    Ven has a remarkable resemblance to Roxas.

    Well does anyone remember in Kh1 where Sora had a voice in his head and strange dreams
    Very short time
    Hell i don't think he slept after that
    anyway

    It has been proven that Terra see's Sora and Riku on the island
    Well could it be possible that Ven was there.
    I believe something happened with Vens heart on the island
    And when was "erased" as said in the trailer
    Terra did so and Ven's stray heart wandered Back to the island
    Into Sora.

    The voice in Sora's head was Ven the dreams were images of Ven's life.
    Ven led him in the right direction.
    Protected him from the darkness.

    Then He gained Kairi's heart at the island right before he Um... left persay

    Now picture yourself
    You have a keyblade
    You experience...A wooden sword
    You cannot take on an army of heartless like that?
    Vens heart
    Gave him the experience of Ven the Strength.

    Then Hallow Bastion he releases Kairis heart
    and Vens in the prossess

    Right then as we know Namine was made
    BUT
    Heres where things get freaky
    Vens heart had no body to go to
    So he took Soras freshly made blank nobody
    Before it could gain picture or memory or anything Ven's heart took it.
    Giving him his appearance.
    But do to him guiding Sora, he lost his memorys.

    This is why Roxas Had emotion
    AND Roxas is still technically Sora's Nobody

    Now for Xion

    Well as you might have noticed due to y statement she comes in and contradicts everything

    Because of this
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    Xion is seen as Ven

    More Theory

    Ven after leaving Soras heart leaves all of his memorys deep in Sora's subconscious

    When the memorys were takin in CoM to make Xion they took the Image of Ven and to some she was seen as him.

    Due to her having his memorys she became close to Roxas who looked like him.

    Now on to Terra

    There has been a rumor which i have peiced together which makes it possible.

    Xemnas being Terra
    First lets get a picture

    Terra
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    Xemnas
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    You gotta admit
    We got some similarity's here

    Now theory time

    During birth by sleep
    Master Xeonort tells Terra to embrase the darkness (actually proven there)
    Then the video cuts off

    What if that was near the end He did embrase it and lost all of his memorys of his past life
    He goes into a fit of rage voices in his head the only thing he heard was "Xaonort"
    Terra kills Him in one mighty blow of darkness
    Since he only knows that name he thinks it of it as his own

    Then he became an apprentice with the others under Ansem the Wise
    He then betrayed him and took his name due because day after day he kept losing memorys to the darkness

    Now for kh1 Sora Donald And goofy fight Him as his giant self
    That was the dark terra
    he was "killed"

    Now he wasen't actually killed but was reborn
    as Xemnas

    Xigbar found Xemnas and thought of him as a Nobody
    But actually he lost all of the darkness inside of him

    When Sora opened the door Terra started to remember his life

    then confused beyond belief he had an idea

    Recreate kingdom hearts but for anouther porposs
    To gain his memorys back, to become whole once more.

    By the time Riku Sora And Mickey opened the door he remembered his old life
    which leads to the scean with aqua on the floor with him in the chamber of whatever

    And also leads him to the battle with Sora in his old Armor

    Well that will do for now
    ...Yeah
     
  2. WilliamTheWise Hollow Bastion Committee

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    It doesn't seem like an academy, but they are still learning from a master. And jugding from the introduction of Xehanort for the Master Exam they had never seen him before
    He is TAV's master
    He's the apprentice of Master Xeahnort
    Possible...
    That voice was Mickey
    In new trailer, he's been there and so was Aqua
    Ven asked Aqua to do it, so she likely was the one to do so. If Sora had Ven's heart he would have experienced a similar experience to that of Kairi. He would have seen him in places that triggered memories and had his memories. Neither of which have been seen so far.
    So where is Ven's nobody?
    When his heart was released it should have either returned to his body or went to darkness to wait in darkness.
    But if Roxas was whole and had a heart where does said heart go when he fuses back with Sora?


    Xion is a memory mirror. She is by people differently from people from their memoires. Xemnas sees her as both Ven and a doll. Saix see her as a doll and Xigbar sees her as Ven. It really doesn't have anything to do with Sora. (Besides him being the base for Xion)
    I think you mean, Xehanort. Xehanort is the original being that became Ansem the Seeker of Darkness and Xemnas when he gave himself to darkness
    This guy
    So how do you explain the sudden change in age? Xemnas is about 30 years old and Terra is no where near that age.
    Xemnas was Xehanort's nobody or his body and soul. Ansem The seek of Darkness and Xemnas are to seperate beings that are connected like Sora and Roxas.
    Xemnas started the organization 9 years before KH1. No one found him.
    This happened before the 1000 heartless battle in KH2. And he went to the Chamber of Repose
    This might not be Terra