Birth by Sleep More than one kingdom hearts?

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX' started by Radiowave, Mar 4, 2008.

  1. Radiowave ITSA PIIINCH

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    Okay, by the title, i do not mean more than 1 kh game...we all know that there are 3 right now...and 3 more coming out...
    Heres what I mean:
    I was re-playing kh2, and I was a little past the part sora fights the 1000 heartless (where he meets saix and axel)

    The thing that piqued my interest was when saix commented on how "lucky" the heartless were, roaming free without a care in the world, gathering until the created another kingdom hearts...
    ?! So, if tons of heartless can make a kingdom hearts then do more than 1 exist at once? and was the bbs kingdom hearts a different one than the kh1 and kh2 kingdom hearts? It was blue, I dont know if that counts for anything, but it was also much fatter and of course, in a different location than the other ones...

    all this time, has sora been fighting to protect more than one kingdom hearts?
    And if kingdom hearts is the heart of worlds, then what are the other kingdom hearts?
    Yes this is kind of confusing but bear with me and discuss:
     
  2. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    There are two kingdom hearts. 1 in the Door To Darkness, and 1 in TWTNW.

    The one in TWTNW gets destroyed at the end of KH2. Its one that the Org made during KH2.
     
  3. Radiowave ITSA PIIINCH

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    so do u think kh will end up like the keyblade ended up by the beginning of kh2?

    the keyblade became so normal for everyone to have that even kairi had one...

    *Full Metal Alchemist SPOILER*

    Also...do u think kh is "evil" I mean, all of those people's stolen hearts, just to make the heart of all worlds? Its kind of like full metal alchemist...you have to kill all these people to create such a "holy" thing. (The philosopher's stone)
     
  4. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    No, Kingdom Hearts is like the lifestream from final fantasy. The Org was able to make thier own by warping away all the hearts Sora collected, instead of returning to the real Kingdom Hearts, they made a second Kingdom Hearts with the hearts they collected.

    And no... Kingdom Hearts is not evil. But it does have a lot of darkness within it. In KH1 when you see Kingdom Hearts, two darksides are inside it, as well as King Mickey.

    Kingdom Hearts is made up of light, thats why it killed Xehanorts heartless in KH1.
     
  5. Radiowave ITSA PIIINCH

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    but i dont get it...is the Dark Destiny Islands in the "Nobody's Kingdom Hearts?" Because thats where Sora and Riku end up when they beat Xemnas...The Light Destiny Islands seemed to be near the real kingdom hearts because xehanort's heartless sucks donald, goofy and sora infront of kingdom hearts...
     
  6. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    I dont think worlds are inside Kingdom Hearts. But I do believe it can warp you into a different world. Your home world.

    Perhaps Kingdom Hearts knew they were from Destiny Islands, but since they both had given up hope, it sealed them in darkness. When they gained thier hope back via Kairis letter, it said, "Oops, wrong Destiny Island..."
     
  7. Roxazthelight Hollow Bastion Committee

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    so, where is 3rd kingdom Hearts? what do u think? there is another Kingdom Hearts?
     
  8. Radiowave ITSA PIIINCH

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    i seriously think it might be answered in kh3, that'll be cool im not sure where it is...but if people have the power to gather hearts together to make another kingdom hearts then it seems not so special to me...

    lol, if it werent for kairi's letter/sora's heart it would have left them there to die...told you it was evil...(jk)
     
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    Birth By Sleep has a kingdom hearts in it.
     
  10. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    It was probably an honest mistake. It thought they were both Emo kids, so it thought they belonged in the realm of darkness.
     
  11. Lord Knight Xiron Hollow Bastion Committee

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    There is one true Kingdom Hearts. The Heart of All Worlds that Ansem and Xehanort spoke of. This is where hearts released from destroyed heartless go, and where the hearts of worlds go after being unlocked and stormed by the Heartless. Xemnas and the Organization began collecting hearts separately from that Kingdom Hearts, and fused them together into an "artificial" Kingdom Hearts.

    Neither Kingdom Hearts is evil or holy. As Mickey said "The world is made of light and darkness. You can't have one without the other." Kingdom Hearts is made of both good and evil hearts, and all hearts have the capacity of both good and evil. It is impossible for it to be either one or the other.

    And the "Dark Destiny Islands" as you call it is not inside Kingdom Hearts. Sora and Riku fought the final battle against Xemnas in an absolute twilight space. It was not within Kingdom Hearts, but was rather a point directly between supreme darkness and supreme light. From here, they existed out of the point of extreme nothing, and ended up in the Realm of Darkness. It wasn't necessarily the dark version of Destiny Islands, just a world in the Realm of Darkness with a beach. Then, through the connection between Sora's and Kairi's hearts brought Kairi's letter to him. The connection opened the Door to Light - the opposite of the Door to Darkness - that led them from the Realm of Darkness back to their home in the Realm of Light.

    It is likely that Destiny Islands is close to the real Kingdom Hearts: the darkness just outside of Kingdom Hearts is what began to form Destiny Islands - not to mention that the name is Destiny Islands.
     
  12. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    Yeah, the one in KH 1 was the true Kingdom Hearts. The one in KH2, was a psuedo Kingdom Hearts.
     
  13. Radiowave ITSA PIIINCH

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    thanks for letting me know...still doesnt explain the kingdom hearts that appeared in birth by sleep, if thats the same one...Not only was it blue, but it was in a different location. Perhaps, it was like Xiron said, some kind of realm close to supreme light and supreme darkness, only devoted to keyblades instead of nothingness, which would explain why all of them are there...
     
  14. Lord Knight Xiron Hollow Bastion Committee

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    A logical assumption. I think that it is somehow a world connected to the world of Castle Oblivion - hence the similar crossroads that seem to hold some significance. The Kingdom Hearts that Master Xehanort summoned could be one of many things. It could be the original Kingdom Hearts, the Heart of All Worlds, that Xehanort, Xehanort's Heartless, and the Heartless seek, or it could be another artificial Kingdom Hearts that Master Xehanort and his Apprentice constructed during the time that they were missing. Or, it could be simply a different form of Kingdom Hearts that we haven't yet seen, that can only be revealed through the Keyblade.
     
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    good work Lord Knight Xiron, u hit this right on the head. ICSP, stop gooffin' off...i thought you'd put something good into this topic. anyways, like i said, LKX is right, and the kingdom Hearts from bbs is still the real kingdsom hearts, not a totally diferent one. but the kh from bbs isn't the first one (i hate it when people say that), because when MX looks up, he seems to be going like YES!!!!!(elbow down), as if he has reclaimed a lost prize. He wasn't shocked, like "what the hell is this power?", it was more like "i've unlocked this once more". So yeah, thats MY 13 cents...
     
  16. Radiowave ITSA PIIINCH

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    Hey! ICSP isnt screwing around, look at his earlier posts, i made the joke first. This isnt school, its a forum. We have the right to commentary.

    No offense to you...but since you "dissed" ICSP you should've at least added something to the topic...this is about kingdom hearts, not MX shooting a ball of dark energy into the sky.

    U STOLE MY PHRASE! *sniffle...* you dont even HAVE a 13 in your name...only I'm entitled to that phrase...u dont even have a number in your name...you can only stick to "two cents."
    Nah, jk, but yeah...get your own phrase, lol.

    finally, to add to the topic: I have nothing to add...
     
  17. khsuperfan Banned

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    FO SHOW!!!!!!
    Sorry for takin' your phrase, won't do it again. Anyways, sorry ICSP, u've got a right to goof of. And i still think im right, because i was taking about the connection between MX and KH, not just MX. MX knows what KH is, and has unllocked it before. THat is my point.