Millions of United States Citizens Will Be Monitored, According to an Agreement

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  1. Amaury Chaser

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    Article link.

    Wow. I mean, I understand that piracy is wrong, but that is no way to go at it.
     
  2. Heart ❤ Enjoy every moment with all ya got

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    So the government gets to spy on us more?

    I swear to God this ****ing US has better things to do then worry about God damn copyright ****! fix the Economy and money problems then do the less important **** like copyright.

    As as Ama said this ain't no way to do it. I don't take like to being spied on Thank You very much XD
     
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    Reading further, it appears that they've tried this before and failed.

    Here's a comment from someone else:

     
  4. Llave Superless Moderator

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    Hmm... this is a problem, but i don't think it is one that will ever be resolved. You would have to lock up almost the entire US just to get all of them.

    Look at the bright side though; six warnings are enough to tell you to get your act together... (that's if THAT will work too.)
     
  5. Arch Mana Knight

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    Um...did you guys read the article? I'm guessing you didn't. The government has nothing to do with this. Google the two companies above and once again, they're not part of the government.

    In either case, it's not exactly an invasion of privacy since to them those people are just IP addresses but I'm not sure about how morality and whatnot fits in here. I'm sure some lawyer or someone will probably make a case about this eventually...or something political like that. I'm no politician. B|
     
  6. Llave Superless Moderator

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    True, IP isn't invading your privacy, you are pretty much giving that to them. But I don't think they can pinpoint the exact person and computer... IP is kinda like a street adress, it points them to your direction, but not for the kill...
     
  7. Nate_River Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Well last time I checked (And I could be wrong about this) most IP addresses are assigned temporarily, but a digital record is kept on who had what IP address at what time. Also, I'm fairly sure that IP addresses and MAC addresses go hand in hand, so wouldn't they end up with the ID number of the network card that is being used?
     
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    If an ISP wants to, they can get your MAC Address from your IP Address, assuming you don't take measures against that (and even they aren't foolproof). A MAC Address is a unique ID bound to your network card, and if they've got that, they've basically got you.

    That being said, I don't think this changes much; ISPs were already, if I remember correctly, required to log all records for like five years or something. They didn't do much with those logs, but they did keep them. And if this is on an ISP basis, not a government basis, then just use a different ISP if it bothers you that much.
     
  9. Llave Superless Moderator

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    Hmm interesting... so even if you were pirating something, you would essentially be leaving a "receipt" behind for them...

    Actually thinking about that is very scary... I suppose all of this could be taken another way: Be careful what you do, because the delete button doesn't mean it is truly gone."

    But it would take a lot of effort to crack down on this, effort i'm sure will be neglected in the near future... but still it is an eye opener.
     
  10. ♥♦♣♠∟uxord♥♦♣♠ Banned

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    Well this sucks. Don't think it'll be much of a problem for me though. Unless someone hacked and stole all those addresses do I think this could turn ugly.
     
  11. Glen Returned from the dead

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    I think they're doing the right thing by trying to reduce copyright and piracy issues, but definitely going about it the wrong way.
     
  12. ♥♦♣♠Luxord♥♦♣♠ Chaser

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    You can trace someone to the exact longitude and latitude with only their IP.
     
  13. Llave Superless Moderator

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    Really?! Somehow that doesn't surprise me. There is a reason why they collect IP addresses. If it weren't a reliable source of information, they would use it to figure things out like this article above says...
     
  14. ♥♦♣♠Luxord♥♦♣♠ Chaser

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    There are so many ways of being tracked you have no idea.
     
  15. Llave Superless Moderator

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    Indeed. I think that's what is most unnerving. If you know how and where to look, you can find almost anyone.
     
  16. ♥♦♣♠Luxord♥♦♣♠ Chaser

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    Its not like it is even hard to trace someone's IP.
     
  17. Llave Superless Moderator

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    Yeah, sometimes it's as easy as seeing someones username. It is out there, and there's just nothing you can do about it. (well you prolly could...) I'm not a genius when it comes to this sort of stuff, but i do grasp the gravity of the situation.
     
  18. ♥♦♣♠Luxord♥♦♣♠ Chaser

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    One thing that could prevent this from happening to yourself is changing your IP manually and or using proxies. Well getting caught anyway.
     
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    To be honest, it's good that they are trying to buckle down with this, I thought by the title you were referring to be watched via street cameras or somethnig which would have been horrible. However, since it's just IP adresses then it's not a huge deal, I don't think it will work though as others have said due to the large amount of people doing it and the fact they tried it before- what will they be doing differently?
     
  20. Ars Nova Just a ghost.

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    Think about that, though. Having lived with that possibility for so long, it took someone telling you about it for you to recognize it. So it can't have affected you much. No, that's not trying to say it isn't a terrible thing and couldn't have grave consequences; but pragmatically speaking, it's not as big a deal as many people reading that article interpret it to be.