Members you'd like to get to know better

No I'm really trying to get to know him better, but the problem is that it always ends up this way. So I wanna know why I mean I don't think he is givng me the answer he knows that I know that he knows I want. It really is terrible how talks with Makaze always die so quickly so maybe if he opens up then that could give some clues on how to help him out. But if debating is the only way...(Which makes no sense at all) Well that has to change instantly.

 

Have you tried to, you know, ask a relevant question about what aspect you want to get to know better? Said, "Tell me about your childhood, Makaze"?

 

I am most interested in a conversation that both parties enjoy or have an interest in. My favorite form of argument is a dialectical style. In direct opposition to a debate, it is a discussion where all parties involved work towards a common solution. It is more like a brainstorming session. A debate is where each side tries to prove their own side and disprove the opposing sides. Most people gravitate towards this and I have a habit of wanting to beat people at their own games so I get into debates very often, but it is a misconception that I would rather have a fight than a session of brainstorming for solutions.

To be more clear, I have the trait of amplifying any tension that I find in a given place. I am only as peaceful as the least peaceful person. It would take a lot of discipline not to take advantage of someone else's defensiveness, especially when politely mentioning it will result in a petty response such as, "You don't know me!"

If everyone else is peaceful and I am not, then I am probably being lighthearted and you are mistaking me. It can never hurt to assume I did not mean harm.

While these are things I want and have reasons to want, I also have an aggressive and abrasive nature that loves to take my intentions and use them to justify my getting under the skins of others. It is especially easy for me to give in to this when others fly into a rage. I smile at the chance to make them burn themselves with their anger. My mind rationalizes it by saying that it was good for them, being humbled. I have a hell of a roundabout way of helping people, eh?

It's a lot easier to speak to people about such things when they are calm like you are being. You should ask more direct questions if you want more specific answers. Generalizations will be met with abstractions. You have been warned...

 

Uhhh no because that question right there goes on that level of stalker status. If the topic comes up then alright cool, but I would really have to get to know him. But as I stated before I trying to see why when he talks to people it ends up... Dead not getting anywhere as he says. Me asking him wouldn't really do anything if I'm trying to see why things like that happen to him... No wait actual... Hmmmm.... well... wow you have a point there man 0_0

Damn I gotta do everyhting -,-

Hey if I pay you in...







Will you do it for meh?
^+^

 

Ask and you shall receive. No matter how I answer, it will tell you something about me. What do you have to lose?

Make sure you actually have an interest in the question, though.

 

[video=youtube;X3ZcZ2h4Ths]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3ZcZ2h4Ths[/video]

 

Yeah, this thread is depressing. It really just shows all the Clicks in KHV.

 

...

 

...

 

being a loner is fine too

 

...

 

Is it bad I now want to skip down the street randomly singing spice girls? Simply because it sounds like a laugh. I just need to find someone who's mad enough to do it with me. xD I think I missed the point there.

 

Ok Makaze if you were to actual have a decent disscusion with somone would still go around being nasty to other members because you feel what they say doesn't earn a right in that thread?

Also if you could change one that that people perceive you as what would it be, and how would you change it so all the knots are untangled?

Do you honestly want people to know who you are?

 

Decent discussion in the spamzone?

 

... No? If I had to do that then it wouldn't be a decent discussion. Or the post I ridiculed would not have been decent. It can't be a decent discussion without a standard for what is 'indecent', after all.

I would change how people saw my intentions. I do not 'want to be right'. That is never a goal or intention of mine. My intentions are never so simple or self-centered. I wish for others to bother with understanding my actions from my perspective at least one in one hundred times instead of jumping to a conclusion that leaves them unscathed.

I want people to understand what I am, not know who I am. Though I do like it when my reputation precedes me, I do not like it when people 'know' but do not understand. They take what I say and draw a conclusion that is preferable to the reality. Rather than believe that someone is clever, they will assume that they were told beforehand. I wish to be understand more than known for this reason...

 

Alright I see so instead of people with their ignorant assumptions you would rather them actual try to... Well decode in a way(I hope I'm getting this again just my thoughts on what you said.) of what you stand for, and how you stand by your beliefs. Well not even that to me if people were to actual get what you are saying isn't to cause any harm, but more on the side of telling your story, but doing it in a way where if the incable were actual capable of trying to get something instead of jumping to conclusions.

So I have to ask why does it seem like no matter what you attempt to do everything still seems to go backwards? Do you try different methods of approaching conversations to their liking? Not to say to kiss up to people, but have you tried not to respond to whatever is being said in a different manner than that of the one who assumed you'd say this, that, or the third?

 

It is not the how that I care about. It is the why. I want people to understand why I am the way I am. To empathize. People say that I do not empathize with them, but they do not even try to empathize with me. I lose most of incentive just from that. Why would I want to empathize with someone who would rather label me?

I have, but I do not do it very often. I have found that most people disregard criticism when they need it and ask for it when they want it, so I am more peaceful when they want it and less peaceful when they need it. It is harder to get through to someone simply by being right when they are in need of help but not asking for it. So my first reaction is to show that they are wrong, play on their insecurities and humble them. I usually have a knee-jerk reaction to things that bother me. I do try to elicit responses, that is ingrained in my character.

I always tell myself that I should turn a new leaf, think before I speak and try to be calm and sociable. But I always fail. I am really bad at being nice, basically.

 

I feel this is appropriate.

Spoiler

 

Lol man that's so untrue because it is said that truth hurts. Lying to somone is catering who actual needs to be put in their place is actual allowing their inability to recieve or to take in comments that can better them as a person to take place.

Think of it this way let's say on any online gaming someone tells person A you suck at sniping and person A hasn't been told this by their close friends knowing that they do the denial factor comes into play. Person will tell person B oh shut up I'm just missing on purpose, the games lagging, or some other sorry excuse to cover the pian they are feeling right now. If they actaul were to have some sort of ability to take in harsh comments such as that one then maybe person A would have said something like ok that's true, but it's funny how the person who sucks at sniping keeps making you swallow bullets when I do kill something. Ok now that Person has been comfortable enough to expose their negative it will leave that person dumbfounded. Then what person will laugh and say wow you admittied to it... Blah blah blah all of that laughter is to just cover up how stupid they feel for actaul hearing someone come out with somehting that they wanna hide, but came out with it is like... Damn

So I'm not understanding why people aren't able to take that in. So sad how inscure people are over the net. Like you tell people you don't even know things that you would never tell people in real life things so why can't you take in some criticism. The amount of common sense that lacks amazes me so much like wow you really are that inscure about yourself even though you told the whole world what you did on Facebook. Yea folks fb is on the net meaning the whole world can see it. Yea wow good job -,-

 

I get what you are saying but I am not sure what you are addressing. That was actually insightful, albeit out of context and somewhat incoherent. What was untrue?