McCain or Obama?

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Which Candidate do you think will do a better job?

  1. Obama

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    67.0%
  2. McCain

    38 vote(s)
    33.0%
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  1. ArchVice Gummi Ship Junkie

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    I'm going to vote for Obama. Although he is in favor of higher taxes, the tax hike will mostly affect people in the higher tax brackets. You know, the rich. The man may not have the most political experience in the world but he has a very good plan of action. That is why I'm voting for him.
     
  2. TheMagicalMisterMistoffelees Professional Crazy

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    You actually just posted every reason I was going to.
     
  3. ArchVice Gummi Ship Junkie

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    See, great minds think alike. It's no wonder we get along. The point is Obama will, in my opinion, win the election.
     
  4. Advent 【DRAGON BALLSY】

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    If you have no evidence then this line doesn't belong in this post.

    Well yea, he did, but McCain is a Republican. When Bush made a decision, he and most of the other Republicans agreed with him. Obama supporters overuse this argument as a catch-all statement while it clearly is faulty. He agreed with Bush at the time he made the decision, but seeing that a lot of Bush's actions were met with negative response, he probably learned a thing or two. McCain and Palin want change just as much as, if not more than, Obama.

    That's just flat-out wrong. Bush has done something. He liberated Iraq from an insane dictator. I'll agree that the place is a wreck right not, in almost all ways because of us, but if Saddam was still in power, then it would be even worse. I'm really annoyed that many Democrats bash Bush for the war. If he didn't go to war, people would have been just as mad at him. Another thing he did, which was basically just a direct result of going to war, but quite necessary all the same, was establish the fact that The United States can stand up for itself. In Clinton's presidency, we had two terror attacks and he did nothing. Now, these attacks had a small number of casualties, but they were casualties still. Why should these lives mean any less than those in 9/11? That's why I think Bush wasn't a completely horrible president, and why I believe in John McCain and his policies of strength and change.

    The reason anyone would still vote for McCain should be somewhat comprehensible now. He isn't what the media has made him out to be, and he is just as big of an advocate of change as Obama. And while Bush had good deal of flaws, it isn't hard for me to see why some people find him to be a great president. While I don't consider him great, he has done a few things during the past eight years that we can be at least somewhat proud of.
     
  5. ArchVice Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Four more years of mistakes is JUST THAT! It is finally time for change. I would really like to see these two candidates go heads up in a good old fashion debate. I believe that would make things very clear and sort out some of the misconceptions.
     
  6. Advent 【DRAGON BALLSY】

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    You're completely right. Most news stations just say "this candidate is better than that candidate" without giving any insight into either candidate's platform. Once the debate start up this will no doubt be cleared up.
     
  7. Tahno The official Charlie Sheen of Republic City.

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    I'm not really American, but since I watch CNN once in a while, I'm able to see the elections and the news of what's going on. From what I've seen, I think Obama would be the better pick.
     
  8. Advent 【DRAGON BALLSY】

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    Well I think we can all agree that most of the media is left-winged. You can't get an accurate depiction of any politicians from the news these days. Look up some information on their platforms on the internet and see which one you prefer.
     
  9. Tahno The official Charlie Sheen of Republic City.

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    Hm, sure I'll try and check their information. I still think Obama would be a better pick though, from what I've been able to see.
     
  10. Advent 【DRAGON BALLSY】

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    Well as I said, most media is in favor of him and is rather unfair to McCain.
     
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    I think it's not that so many people love Obama that much, a lot of people just hate bush. P

    plus everyone do your homework before deciding please.
     
  12. EvilMan_89 Code Master

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    that's pretty true. the media pretty much portrays Bush and the Republicans as "the forces of evil".
     
  13. Advent 【DRAGON BALLSY】

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    Exactly. I mean look at this example. Obama is called "uppity", which I realize has a negative connotation, but was not meant in any offensive way whatsoever, and the media goes nuts. Biden calls the Republican party's politics "cowboy mentality" and nothing happens. The bias is obvious.
     
  14. ArchVice Gummi Ship Junkie

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    I won't deny the media is bias, even though I support Obama. I feel the media is wrong for not remaining neutral.
     
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    I'm not saying that you're wrong, but the reason that they made a big deal about that was because the person who said "uppity" refused to rephrase his comment, which if the comment was completely harmless, they would have no reason not to. What Biden said was pretty stupid; it's not the best idea ever to stereotype/alienate half of the country (although I see where he strung that together, because that song "Raising McCain" was pretty much taken as the official campaign song XD).

    I've seen bias on both sides, but not much of it at all. Maybe that's because I only watch CNN, where they pride themselves on having no affiliation (to the point where their self-satisfaction is obnoxious).
     
  16. ArchVice Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Quoted for truth.
     
  17. Advent 【DRAGON BALLSY】

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    In my opinion, if it was really that offensive then McCain would have reworded his statement in a second. He didn't reword it because the request to have it reworded was ridiculous.

    Yup. Agreed.
     
  18. ArchVice Gummi Ship Junkie

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    The thing that gets to me is the constant smearing of the two candidates by each other. I think it wrong to try and win an election by insulting your opponent. It's a foul traditional tactic used bay all parties and I think it should stop.
     
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    i think so too but the problem is that it actually works and since it works it would be in their best interest to launch smear campaigns i'm afraid.
     
  20. ArchVice Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Yeah, I know. But that doesn't change the fact that it is wrong. Even war gas rules. They should pass legislature limiting the amount of smearing a candidate is allowed, but then I guess that defeats the freedom of speech.
     
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