McCain or Obama?

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Which Candidate do you think will do a better job?

  1. Obama

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  2. McCain

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  1. LoneWolf Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Ii I was voting age, I would vote for McCain. See our biggest problem in this country is our dependence on foreign oil. That's partly the reason why our country is nearly 10 trillion dollars in debt right now. Also, he plans on changing the school drop-out age to 18. If this were to take effect, the job crisis in Michigan should clear up. Also! His plan for energy independence, nuclear power plants... and where do they usually go? By water. So if you doubled up the higher drop out age with the extra power plants in Michigan, it may counter the high unemployment rate in the state. Possibly they can take back the leading state of car manufacturing.
     
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    Ummm, that really didn't seem like low of a blow for me. As a matter a fact, that ad sorta just states everything. I was hopen you would find an add that would show a really low blow or something.

    I mean, not for nothen, but that ad sorta just states his polocy, which democrats have been backen up 100%
     
  4. Xaale Sylph of Hope

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    I accidently just put McCain ;_;

    I'm going for Obama, even though he doesn't have nearly as much experience in the political area as McCain does. I don't really hear all that much about McCain, and he just doesn't seem to have the same charisma as Obama. I like a lot of the things both men are promising to do, but...

    McCain is a prisoner of war. He was held hostage for seven years, and it is impossible for nothing to happen to your mind after that. I'm a little nervous about that, though I trust that he wouldn't do anything TOO rash.

    Now about Obama, he isn't as experienced. I am choosing him for the charisma, but one thing about him is that he is most likely going to get assassinated, which would be the last thing the country would need. I am very supportive of a black president, and Obama seems veeery promising to me. But there are some nuts out there who are going to assassinate him, I can just tell.

    I don't really like any of the candidates this election, and anyway I'm only 13 so I can't vote XD​
     
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    If he really had any mental issues, they would have shown up by now. It's been years since he was incarcerated.

    Not necessarily, but he definitely has a better chance of being assassinated than McCain.

    Agreed completely. xD
     
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    I think it is something we can all agree in then really. Not for nothen, but I tend to get caught up in polotics. But I'm just rememberin towards the very beggining I didn't like any of them in the first place ^_^

    Either way, we get a good thing that'll happen to this country, and a bad thing. SHould be interesting ^_^
     
  7. Advent 【DRAGON BALLSY】

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    Haha yea. Even though we get really caught up in this stuff, we can all agree on that. And either way, the middle class probably isn't improving one bit. xD
     
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    i hate how all the candidates were senators because i feel as though they are out of touch from most Americans. i mean, most of the time they just vote "pass or fail" for a bill and that doesn't prove they can run a country. i feel as though governors, heck even mayors are better suited because they had more experience running an actual place as opposed to voting "pass or fail" on a bill.
     
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    I was thinking the exact same thing. It's probably a big reason why none of the candidates really stand out (to me at least).
     
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    Obama all the way.
     
  12. Advent 【DRAGON BALLSY】

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    That's wrong. I consider a baby to be a human life when it begins brain function (which as I have said multiple times is four weeks I believe). What's more is that the baby isn't part of the mother's body, simply within the mother's body.

    No argument? What's the point of posting this in the Debate Corner?
     
  13. Patsy Stone Мать Россия

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    I personally go for Obama. Age does not necessarily equal experience, and experience does not necessarily mean you are good for the job.

    I also don't like Conservative parties (in all their guises >.>). Now this is mainly down to prejudice passed down from my father (and Business Studies teacher, and basically anyone else I have talked to who lived during this era xD) who hated Margaret Thatcher with a passion. Destroying a countries economy will do that to you.

    On the abortion note, any candidate who is not pro-choice will never get my vote. It is the mothers decision, plain and simple. Her body, her choice. Bringing the child into the world could be crueler than aborting it. The individual circumstances need to be considered (single parent, still at school, how many other kids etc). Also, the world is in the middle of an over-population problem so the last thing we need is over-flowing adoption centres.
     
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    I agree with that.

    Abortion certainly is tricky buissness. I mean, in a sense, that is murder, and yet at the same time, there are some people who deserve to have it.

    Those who are willing to fight saying whether it is right or wrong are both wrong, since in the end, abortion is in fact both right and wrong. It's f'ed up.....
     
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    I agree, but considering the delicate condition of this country, I personally would prefer a candidate with more experience who will be less of a gamble.

    Haha, that's a coincidence, because I was a democrat supporter up until a few months ago thanks to my father and this guy. Anyway, you're kinda right about Margaret Thatcher, but you cant' blame everything on her.

    But that's just it. The baby is not part of the mother's body. It is a completely individual organism. Now, yes, I obviously believe that abortion isn't something to completely outlaw. It's necessary in times when the situation is life-threatening to the mother, when rape is provable, or when other complications arise, and I also think that it's acceptable to abort a baby if it doesn't have brain function. But is the baby has brain function and none of the above criteria are met, I simply don't believe aborting it is right.

    I don't have a good feeling about either candidate. Neither feels right to me, but the fact that McCain has experience (and a platform that I think is somewhat acceptable) puts him a bit over Obama for me.
     
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    I should mention that the only reason I am chosing Obama is that he is the lesser of the evils. I would also never support a candidate who would in any way bring religion into the White House.

    That is somewhere that religion can never go (along with all other governments around the world).
     
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    Yup. 100% agreed here. It's a tricky topic, and it's nearly impossible to make everyone happy on the topic.

    When did McCain ever say that?
     
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    The period in which a woman can abort a fetus is within 3 months of conception, or around 9 weeks, after that point the procedure is not legally able to take place.

    The point in which a fetus has developed enough to have a functioning nervous system to feel pain is roughly 20 weeks. At the very latest period in which an abortion is legally allowed to take place, the "child' is not developed enough to feel pain, or even be medically claimed "alive", as vital organs have not even fully developed; the "child" is nothing more than a mildly developed clump of cells.
     
  19. Advent 【DRAGON BALLSY】

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    Oh, okay thank you. I didn't know it was that much longer. Then yea, 20 weeks sounds like a good cutoff...
     
  20. Patsy Stone Мать Россия

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    I remember for certain hearing on the news that both candidates were playing their religion cards to woo all of the religious voters.

    Meh, it may end up being a non-issue, but I certainly don't envy American voters. Well, the intelligent and informed ones anyway.
     
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