McCain or Obama?

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Which Candidate do you think will do a better job?

  1. Obama

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  2. McCain

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  1. Deathsight44 Kingdom Keeper

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    Probably shouldn't be used. I some what agree with that, though I wouldn't go to far into that. Besides, not like I have said the Pledge of Alliegence in awhile. Like hell I would pledge alliegence to a country as corrupt as this.....

    Exsactly why there should be no laws against. sadly enough though, there are
     
  2. Sanya Orussia’s 586th Fighter Regiment

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    Lmfao, I'm sure Obama's plan to not allow offshore drilling will help our gas prices. Seriously though, it has nothing to do with war vehicles.

    It was a petty attempt to link patriotism with religious piety, to distinguish us from the "godless Soviets." But that was over a century ago... does it really make a difference now?

    "I'm Barack Obama, and I approve this message."

    Yeah, that's definately not Obama. Like I said in my first post, he was answering questions with crit towards McCain.
     
  3. Advent 【DRAGON BALLSY】

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    I should be asking you the same questions. Have you also noticed that the media is depressingly Democrat-biased? Most news stations aren't a good source for knowing if a candidate is good or not. It's really only in the debates where you can get truly accurate information, but even their either candidate can lie. As for the ads, like RvR said, I can't even tell you how many times I've seen that McCain hugging Bush video as if the fact that they're friends is just so terrible. That's a low blow if I've ever seen one.

    No, it's not. But it's the party that he comes from and who supports him. If you're going to make claims like this then you have no right to say that McCain is too similar to Bush.
     
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    Yeah, it does.
     
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    You are wrong here. Marriage whether in a church, in your yard, out in an alley etc are not 'official' until you go to the judge and stand before him/her and declare your intention. Marriage was pulled out of the church's hands a long time ago. You are not considered married -at all- if you don't officiate it with the state you are in.

    On another note, why are people saying Obama's messages are worse than McCain's who decided to also slander quite a bit with his own messages including one comparing Obama to Britney Spears and Paris Hilton? The door swings both ways, people. xD
     
  6. Advent 【DRAGON BALLSY】

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    No, it doesn't. It's mainly a symbolic thing, as in a greater power (not necessarily God, you can call it luck, fate, destiny, whatever you want to call it) is watching over America. It's not theist propaganda.
     
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    It is propaganda. The president's faces on the money is propaganda too. It's not a Nazi kind of propaganda, but propaganda nonetheless.
     
  8. Deathsight44 Kingdom Keeper

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    My brother in law flies a transport aircraft for the army. I'll tell you, it takes a **** load more oil to get that thing into the air then it does to get a car going for anouther few days. I mean, do you honostly know what you are talking about?

    Wow. I wonder why they focus more on McCain then Obama. Is it possibly perhaps the fact that McCain is always giving out so many below the belt blows that they would rather focus on what he is doing then Obama? Not for nothing, but they have been covering things just right. I mean, honostly. The fact that Bush and McCain are friends is one thing, but since Bush is helping McCain so much, they can obviously focus on him. Not for nothing, but the dude is our president after all. If you are gonna speak at the republican convention, then you are obviously politcly speaking for McCain. Facts are, McCain goes after personal things that have to do with Obama. Tell me, when was the last time you saw an add that had to do with personal things that had to do with McCain? And don't go into the bull with him and President Bush, because that is different. huge difference between a hug and someone questioning if you are american enough to be president. Do you have any idea how insulting and racist that is exsactly? That is completely uncalled for.

    How are he and Bush different? The difference between Obama and the group which you are rounding together with him obviously show a difference.

    McCain and Bush have terribly similure polocies though. All McCain is gonna end up doing is continuing Bush's war.
     
  9. Advent 【DRAGON BALLSY】

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    You keep talking about these low blows. Show me one. If you can really show me one of these ads, I'll accept it. And I round Obama together with the Democrats because... he's a Democrat.
     
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    I feel that voting for McCain will be like voting for Bush all over again. Obama rules!
     
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    I'm vouching for Barack Obama. I did it before, I'm doing it now. And come on, whose going to go against me when I say Palin was a total Hell Mary? I mean, if McCain dies during office shes going to be president. A hockey mom from Alaska? Ugh...

    During the democratic primaries when the idea of Barack vs Hillary came about, no one ever said Hillary was "incompetant" I think SHE would be a good alternative to Obama. I support Obama all the way, but I wouldnt be as angry if it were McCain-Clinton vs Obama-Biden.
     
  12. Advent 【DRAGON BALLSY】

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    Would you care to back up this claim?

    I don't see what the big deal with Palin is. Hillary Clinton should be in jail right now for that scandal way back when, and Palin isn't as inexperienced as people are making her out to be.
     
  13. Deathsight44 Kingdom Keeper

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    I found a real nice home page that has plenty of adds, so I'll list the f'ed up ones as I go on

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVLQhRiEXZs
    How the **** is that not a low blow? And cmon, that is a straight up lie right there.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYwLxtzW3I8
    Remind me when they said they were gonna be raising taxes?


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2XTDHltNVU
    This doesn't have to do with anything, but I've godda tell you, this ad scares the **** out of me

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuRHRRYHKIY
    also doesn't have to do with why I am finden the ads, but, if this is true, then why is he digging up oil still and not worken for the alternatives?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3_jXj84xKc
    might be awhile b4 I get to the vids that are more current, so I'm posten these as I go along. So far, he is wasten a lot of money on the war....but I basicly plan on listing a heck load of ads

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E1nB-3l4GE
    then why dig for so much oil?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3Zy50Dy6Zk
    Ummm, ya, wow. He didn't say he was against electric car, and as for the nuclear part. ****, I live a half hour away from Indian Point. Thanks to that thing, last dude who ate a fish out of that river after cleaning it got cancer.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDTJDv4hevU
    bull ****

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0cNqtUtufo
    Mexicans aren't the only people that are fighting in this war ya know.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm9IUfPZsX8
    sorry there buddy. A bit late on the ad there.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiTpS4MK3D8
    but a good amount is gonna go for the war vehicles.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHXYsw_ZDXg
    once again. lies


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylJkmMR8Fek
    but then why drill?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSpcxkKlEFA
    don't kid yourself. Maybe if the ad actually let them say what they were gonna say, then he might not feel so dam praised


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3DxDBH9nn4
    so what then? McCain is gonna decrease the taxes then or somethen? As if he doesn't plan on raising them. bull

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tZQRXTrRKs
    maybe if they didn't constantly use titles that weren't even applying to him in the first place, then this would seem a bit cleaner


    Alrite, I am really getting tired right now. I'll post back again later tonite or tommorow, and reveiw some of the speeches next, as well as check out other scources. The ads obviously are not enough, but I havn't even finished looking at everything else yet, so don't think this is all the material that I have.


    While I am gone though, do me a favor and find ads from Obama that show dirty play, because if I am dam well putten together all this ****, then you should be to. I mean, not for nothen, but you have been talken nothen but bull
     
  14. Advent 【DRAGON BALLSY】

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    IF you recall, I asked for videos of him dealing low blows. That Photoshop one wasn't exactly fair, but it was more of a humor video relating to how he changed the seal, which is a timeless classic symbol in the United States. The rest of the videos don't seem too bad. They just seem to support McCain and go against Obama... Which is the point.
     
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    I do, actually. The military is the largest purchaser of oil in the world. Will that fact change even if the war is technically over? No.
     
  16. Deathsight44 Kingdom Keeper

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    I know. I didn't even finish looking up all the vids yet. I obviously hate McCain, so let me put this into terminology that you would understand. How would you feel if you went through a half hour purely of having to listen to Obama? If you feel sick to ur stomach, then that is how I feel now that I have listened to so many McCain ads

    I still expect you to show proof of obama's low blows though
     
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    I'm waiting for the debates... that's when things get interesting. =D

    For now it's just an endless supply of bashing campaign ads.
     
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    Hmmm. You've got a point there. Things will really show when that starts up.

    Guys wanna come back here again during the thing just for the hell of bein able to bash eachother on events that are occuring at the very moment? It'll be a bit more interesting ^_^ (I have a fancy for interesting fights)
     
  19. Advent 【DRAGON BALLSY】

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    Obama is a good politician and a good speaker. I just don't like some of his platform ideas and I'm nervous that he might not have the experience to run a country. In the delicate state the United States is in today, I feel that McCain is just the better candidate. If the United States wasn't in such a critical time, I'd be more willing to consider Obama...

    Well, you showed me only one video that even had a trace of a low blow (though it was purely comedic in nature, being a parody of the altered Presidential Seal). But okay. That ad must be somewhere.

    Here we go, this is the one I was talking about, and I'm pretty sure there's a few more like this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KYSeGl4bks

    He oversimplifies McCain's ideas for Iraq so much that it makes him seem like he wants to worsen the economy. That's not the story obviously. He just thinks that our allies in Iraq and a strike to terrorism as a whole is what must be done at this time.
     
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