358/2 Days Maybe...?

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts HD I.5 ReMIX' started by NamineArtistOfLove, Feb 18, 2012.

  1. NamineArtistOfLove Destiny Islands Resident

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    Ok, so Org.XIII is always talking about how Nobodies don't have hearts, and therefore no emotions. But in Days, Roxas cries. Of course, his somebody was still alive, but does this mean that the rest of the org. has emotions too? Maybe it's not that important, but it's just a thought.
     
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    There' s another thread about Roxas having feelings. I think you' re right, nobodies are obviously able to learn things and take decisions, I find it hard to believe they didn' t regain a heart somehow. As I posted in that other thread it looks like we' re about to find out, here's some pictures from a KH 3D trailer :


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  3. Excasr The Forgotten XIII

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    Well, in my opinion, Nobodies lack hearts and aren't suppose to feel anything. But I believe that, somehow, Nobodies can feel something. Roxas cries, this is proof that he have feelings, Axel gets sad (when Xion dies), "feel fun" (in Castle Oblivion when he lets Naminé escape), wanted to protect Roxas and Xion, he miss Roxas etc. Xion has feelings because she knew the special bond the three share.

    And the most clear explanation for this is that they are best friends. Friendship, the most powerful power in the world. They are loved by each other, this is the clearest explanation for me.

    But just like I say I think, Nobodies aren't suppose to have feelings, but still they can.​


     
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    Oh, and I forgot to mention : the only thing that led us to believe that nobodies can' t feel anything is what Ansem the wise wrote in his notes.
    DiZ : <<Oh, he told you how he "felt", did he ? Ridiculous ! A nobody cannot feel anything.>>
    Yet Namine left a note in Jiminy' s journal, telling Sora has to "ease their suffering" (they being Axel, Roxas, Xion, Aqua, Ventus, Terra).

    I just stumbled upon this interview of Nomura from the Re-Coded Ultimania guide :

    Though he’s a member of Organization XIII, Axel is shown in the end of Re:Coded in the memories of “pain”…
    Nomura: Since healing the necessary “pain” of Axel’s is different than with other people, if he is revived he will take a form like Xehanort’s. In the end of the story, Namine says, “Those whose memories are sleeping inside Sora need relief.” In the Birth by Sleep secret cutscene “Blank Points”, certain characters call out to Sora, however in that scene Axel is the only one who appears and doesn’t say Sora’s name out loud.
    Speaking of the Birth by Sleep secret cutscene, Ansem the Wise says that he hid his research results in Sora. This complies with what happens in Re:Coded when Namine says DiZ (Ansem the Wise) has hid something inside Sora. Is that mystery remaining unsolved?
    Nomura: Yes. Namine added data to the Jiminy Journal in order to convey that the “pain” of those connected to Sora must be healed, but at the point in time Ansem hid the research results inside Sora, he didn’t know that. Accordingly, Ansem’s research results will become the key to healing the “pain” in the future of the story.

    Clearly Namine believes nobodies have genuine feelings, whatever DiZ might think about it.
     
  5. Kaidron Blaze Kingdom Keeper

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    I always thought that a Nobody can't feel but the organisation are able to remember what it was like with a heart, and thus are able to remember how they are meant to react to situations and thus imitate feelings... Roxas, Xion and Axel I feel are diffrent
     
  6. nickoboyzx Gummi Ship Junkie

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    since roxas is nobody is sora


    that mean roxas had a heart
    like in days ( forgot the day)
    when roxas first met axel and become friend that mean he already had a heart

    axel protect sora in kingdom hearts 2

    everyone in organization can see xion in hooked
    but roxas and axel can see xion true face

    so i think the organization don't have a hearts but have a emotion
     
  7. shadusnox Merlin's Housekeeper

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    The thing that makes nobody's special from dusks is that they remember what it's like to have hearts they remember there pasts.
    but aren't memorys like that stored in the heart?
    Doesn't that mean that there has to be something there from where the memory's come from?
     
  8. roxas2142 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    My logic is that roxas is the only one that actually does have a heart. He has ventus's heart which sora had inside him when he became a heartless. Since xion was meant to copy sora by taking roxas's power i think she shares vens heart with roxas toward the end. As for the rest of the nobodies, they dont have hearts but they have the memories of emotions. Axel sees real emotion in roxas and can remember how it used to be so therefor it looks like he has emotion.
    :)