Make up the story plot for kh3 (Group Effort)

yeah 3 is typically an important number in KH for some reason. why? I have no clue.

my two favorite names so far are Rei and Rin.
It can be whatever song you want :)

Brexen helps quite a bit too, but he comes and goes.
FinalForm also helps every now and then.
Thanks for helping us out!

 

The number 3 is used in many stories... maybe because it's the bare mkinimum to get a Triangle, which allows more possibilities than a Line (two people).
Also, a recurrent theme is that of two guys and one girl. Actually, I don't think I've EVER seen the contrary, two girls and one guy.

Oh, and yes, Ven (or Ventus) is Latin.

Japanese translations
Riku = Land
Kairi = Sea
Sora = Sky

Latin Translations
Terra = Earth
Aqua = Water
Ventus = Wind

And now we have the possible links between characters. Ven and Sora could be related thanks to Roxas, Aqua looks like Kairi, and Terra... Er... Terra and Riku are both suspected of using darkness?
Anyway.

So, to go back ON topic, about the girl's name. I too like Rei and Rin the most. But, I wonder if we can follow Sora&Co symbolic references. Like, her name could be Japanese for... Nature, Tree, Night, Star, or something like that. Of course, we should find something relating to her ''stick to the rules'' attitude.
Now, lemme do my part and check some more names in Latin...

...

This isn't going too well... ''Moris'' means ''Rule''... what else...
Can't find anything that suits KH...

Well, I guess Japanese is a better solution than Latin.

 

I'm near positive that Ven and Sora are not relatives. I'm not sure on this one either, but I don't think Aqua is supposed to be related to Kari in any way. only similar in looks. I think that Terra originally Chose Riku to wield the keyblade in Terra's place or something like that, but Riku became involved with darkness, so Sora took Riku's place. I don't know for sure on all this, but If I remember correctly, then bbs is suppose be like that.

We could just try some different language and do the same old naming method using earth wind and water. but it would be nice to have more than three keybladers. maybe some that are more keened on darkness....

I could make one on this thread, but let's see what else we can think of.

Edit: Oh yeah, just to let you know, I edited my latest post on the emblem topic. I made a few new designs.

Another Edit:

I was thinking, The org XIII members got their names for a play on words, well names actually. So why don't we do some thing similar.

Key of Order------Removing every other letter.
Ky f re

Kyfre (short i, long e: Ki-free) :-/ I don't know... maybe....

Order key
odr e

or

re ky

Odre...... Reky...... ah..... let's try something else....

If we do Kyfre, then why not have a Keyblader opposite of her? Chaos
He couldn't care less about the world order. all that matters is getting the job done through any means.

The Chaos Key--Tehoky...........
a Key To Chaos--Aetcas
A key of Chaos --Aeocas
Chaos key --Case..... O_o ummmmm no, lol

 

Well, I got good news, cuz I speak several languages (English, French, Spanish, Romanian). I never thought of translation something in those, actually. I'll take some time to think about how some words translate... most of them are very similar, due to all those languages being latin-bases, but there are unique words everywhere, too.


As for your idea of making names by cutting letters, this sounds interesting. Remixing letters, like the Organisation, but without X, is nice as well. Once again, I'll take some time (I'm busy AGAIN) to think about those. It's quite fun actually, I used to mix letters (usually to invent Nobody names) during boring classes last session.


Having a Keyblader ready to do anything is an excellent idea that we must keep. One that would do anything. Sorta like Riku in KH1.


And the name Kyfre, pronounced as you said (Ki-Free) is good for the ear. The entire name, said like this, makes you think of the word "key", not to mention its first syllabe is "key".
Oh wait, did you mean you pronounce it as "KEY-Free", or as "KAI-free" (where "AI" is like the lone letter "I")?
Maybe we should use the official international pronounciation table...

 

lolz is it pronounced key-free? well we can always change a letter here. Kifre.

A keyblader of Chaos should be similar to Riku in Kh1, however he should be able to walk with darkness, meaning that he controls it and it doesn't control him. darkness is not Evil according to Nomura (or whatever his name is). He should be a master of darkness, and should causally use it for everything. and also opposite to our keyblader of Order, he should have a nonchalant personality. Riku should be on bad terms with this guy. as for Sora, I could see this guy being like how Axel was with Sora.

We still need someone that is on bad terms with Kairi. I kinda want there to be more than three new keybladers though...

 

What do you think of :

Keyblader :
"What! She's a Princess of Heart?! How can SHE help us out! A Heart filled with light is a Heart that cannot fight! None of us would be here today if we hadn't the darkness in our hearts push us to victory! How will she face the darkness, if she never feeled their power?"

Other Keyblader (anyone):
"You're wrong. Her Heart is filled with light that will shine, illuminating our path towards victory. The darkness in our hearts may give us hatred or strength sometimes, but it's dangerous.
*And if it's Riku talking*
"Believe me, I know what I'm talking about".

 

I like it, we'll have to find somewhere to use this.

Edit: Ok, I Recently updated the wiki. I've add some notes of thanks and credit and have updated the opening to Sora's story. It's very similar to Kairi's except the scene continues onto the gummi. I'm thinking that Riku's Story with Riku awaking on Radiant Garden, and then there should be a flash back to show how he ended up there.

additionally, I would like to let everyone, who is interested, know that I have set up a group for all this. Its called Masters' of the Desouls. I will post all update for anything that has to do with this project there. Anybody can join. members can ask clarificaton questions there and discuss other things. thank you for reading!

 

Here's my (probably) last contribution to the character's names, at least as in "translating words from other languages".
It didn't go out so well, so I stopped midway (or far from midway, actually).



I started making a list of words translated in several languages, using online translators, if not my knowledge. However, I really don’t see many interesting names. Once again I come to the conclusion that they sound better in Japanese, probably because it’s a far different language.
Names usually don’t sound like normal nouns. Using a Latin language thus makes them sound sorta lame, for most words.

I’ll post my little research anyways, even if it’s not complete.

IF you guys and gals find many of the names interesting, then I’ll continue my research. But as for me, I don’t see much potential, so I’ll keep it as is, for the moment.



Legend
English – French – Spanish – Romanian - Latin

Nature-related words

▪ Cloud – Nuage - Nube – Nor - ???
▪ Lightning – Éclair – Rayo – Fulger - Levitas
▪ Thunder – Foudre – Rayo – Trăznet - ???
▪ Water – Eau – Agua – Apă – Aqua
▪ Earth – Terre - Tierra – Pământ – Terra

Personality-related words

▪ Disciplie – Discipline - ??? – Disciplină – Castrensis (pretty sure this is wrong)
▪ Hono(u)r – Honneur - ??? – Onor - Mos
▪ Will – Volonté - ??? – Dorinţă – Veneratio

Pronunciation

Romanian :
- The letter “ă†is pronounced like this : Think of the onomatopea "er", that you say when hesitating. Cut ourhe "r" part, and say what remains with a firm tone.
- The letter “ţ†is pronounced “tsâ€, in an instant.


This is it for the moment.

 

I really like the name Eclair, but I'm not sure how that could work.

I was thinking some more on the keybladers. and I thought, that we should have three new good keybladers: Order, Chaos (Axel kind of personality), and something else

Then we should introduce two other new keybladers that are bad: Corruption and Despair. Corruption could be a boy, and Despair can be a girl. from the beginning, these two keybladers are working on their own, trying to somehow make use of the desouls or something. Then when the mystery keyblader (Xehanort) reveals who he is after The World That Never Was gets destroyed, perhaps he can recruit Corruption and Despair to help him accomplish his goals.

also perhaps The third good keyblader should be the opposite of despair.

 

Sounds good to me. I think in order to play things safe, we won't say these guys are keyblade masters since we don't know what makes a keyblade master and because we don't know if there is a set amount KHU.

 

Opposite of "despair"? "Hope"! I find it a very cool name, especially for a girl.
"Faith" is good as well.

I like the idea of Xehanort recruiting Keybladers. After all, he definitely knows how to manipulate. Corruption and Despair would want to use the Desouls, ignoring the true menace they represent, in order to defeat the Heartless.
We need to come up with names for them. What parents would name their child "Despair"?...

I was thinking that Xehanort would be alone in the final battle, thus all Keybladers would've realised that he gives them little importance. Corruption and Despair, used to live with manipulation, would impress everyone when they use this talent for good, as they betray Xehanort and ruin his plans. What do you think of this?


***Freaky coincidence : I just saw 2009's first lightning. And the name you (Pezz) liked in those I wrote was Eclair, the French word for lightning.


Okay, we got some new ideas, so back to the Wiki I go. I have to do my part in keeping it alive, after all.

 

lolz, I think that can workout very nicely. before The desoul's world dies Riku and Kairi could be fighting Despair and corruption. Meanwhile Sora is battling Xehanort. after that battle we would have that whole scene where the world dies and everyone is sent to the corrupted kh. that could be when Despair and corruption realize what they've done.

By the why, you guys still haven't said if you liked my name for the desoul world. "World Ends At Sunset"

We could also call it "World Ends At Sundown"

Will do. I plan to leave messages in our group when I add updates. we should all do that so we can keep track of things. I'll occasionally leave messages here for the viewers when I've updated the storyline. I would like to work on the beginning of Riku's Story, but lets discuss it first.

As of right now I have Sora's Opening being pretty much the same thing as Kairi's. We need something different with Riku, so I think his story should start with him waking up at Radiant Garden followed by a quick flashback showing how he ended up there. The restoration to Radiant Garden's town should be complete by now, so now everyone should be renovating the castle.

By the way, for anyone who views this thread, we have set up a group called Masters' of the Desouls. feel free to join.

 

We didn't?! Sorry! I personally adore it.
Actually, I did say that I liked your idea of Xehanort saying to Sora "You forgot something... the world ends at sunset! *The sun sets* *Every gets teleported inside the purple KH*". Or did I? Anyway, I like it, and it keeps the trend of the final world having "world" in its name.

I agree with Corruption and Despair realising what they've done when they get sent in the purple KH.
Here's the scene as I pictured it :


Xehanort : The world ended at sunset... and now, you'll all join it, for an eternal night! Corruption! Despair! Finish what you've started!
*They hesistate, look at each other, and don't attack. They look at Xehanort, hatred brimming in their eyes.*

Xehanort : You dare defy me?! Hm! I hoped you would be ready to see the magnificence of what you've helped me create. But it seems your frail Hearts cannot support such beauty.

Corruption : Say what! You call THIS "magnificence"?!
*points around them. I dunno what it's supposed to look like, but a Kingdom Hearts made out of incomplete Hearts is NOT a place I'd want to be*

Despair : This is... horrible... what have we done?! No, I won't let this happen! Xehanort! You lied to us! You may have used us to do your dirty work, but you won't continue as long as one of us is still standing!

End of scene


By the way, I wondered about the music we should use. Of course, this isn't exactly our top priority right now. But I would like to make some music, if, of course, I can get my hands on a good program to make them. And anyway, this will probably have to wait... a long time.

 

yeah you did say that, but didn't mention anything about the name so I was unsure.

I like! maybe a few touch ups on the dialogue here and there, but it definitely is good! We need to create real names (or makeup names) for Despair and corruption. That's just what they are supposed to represent after all.

lolz, the way we're going, we may actually end up constructing this game. that would pretty much fall under my area of expertise, but with the number of people we have now it would be tough to make such a game. We would probably be best off doing it with a top down view on the field and a side view in battle (like CoM). it would be great for my resume! But whether or not we make a game can be left for debate later because that takes a lot of time and commitment, and when I started all this I wasn't really planning on constructing a game.

Back on topic though, Music would be great! feel free to make some. So you are a musician then?

 

I thought of this as well. Actually making the game sounds a bit like... pure hell right now. I am busy enough as is, and sometimes have trouble keeping up with the Desoul discussions to begin with.
Of course we have the summer vacation approaching, but we'd need to be pretty determined to finish everything in that time.
Furthermore, I am no programmer, despite basic knowledge (basic as the word "basic", not the computer language).
And no, I'm no musician... sorta. I like music, and I know I made some awesome music on computer, long ago. It was on a different system, so I need to see which programs work on the one I currently have.
And finally, there's the time constraint. As interesting as the Desouls are, we'd need to make quite some sacrifices to really make a game. I'm not saying it won't happen, but we'll have to see. It's not something I want to discuss when I spent 8 hours on schoolwork just prior to coming here :ranting:

However... there is the fact that I've been spending a lot of my "free" time (as in "walking to my bus", etc) thinking about a KH-style game, and ever possible aspect of it. If we do decide to make a game, believe me, I'll have countless ideas to give for pretty much everything ;)


So, back on topic.
Corruption and Despair. Hm... real names... anagrams!
Let's have fun with those.

C O R R U P T I O N
- Torrupcion
- Runoticrop
- Nirucrotop
- Orptuincro
Okay, he's a toughie. All names sound strange. I wonder if there are two words which can be made with Corruption's letters.

DESPAIR
- Ridespa
- Pasride
- ->Paradise<- It has does have an extra "A"... still ironic, huh? It could make "A Despair".
- Pardise. Similar to "paradise", only it's a real anagram. Furthermore its pronunciation is very similar to "paradise", which will make people think, and probably realise our ruse.

Corruption : I abstain from voting... for now.
Despair : I vote for "Pardise".

What do you all think?


EDIT :

New ideas! Thinking of this game while on the bus is quite effective.

About the story :
I suggest Chip and Dale arrive AFTER Sora reads Mickey's letter. This means that they'll have a few days to prepare. And this means that they can change clothes. If the story takes up immedaitely after KH2, then changing clothes isn't really necessary, but it becomes if we let a few months pass.

I thought of Sora wearing full-lenght pants (because hos pants already got longer in KH2, so they'll do it again). As for his shirt, probably still the same style.

Riku could follow the "classinc video game right arm law". What is this? It's an observation I made. Male characters tend to have less "things" on their right hands. For example, they'll have no sleeves on the right hand, and a short one on the left. Probably to better swing their weapons, assuming they're right-handed.
So, I thought Riku could follow this rule. Ven and Terra do so as well.

Kairi must definitely wear pants too. Can't have a controllable character wear skirts in a KH-game, where aerial flips abound...

That's it for the clothes.


I also thought that Riku and Sora could take two Gummi ships, probably by leaving at different times. This would explain how they can crash at different places.

 

Ok, Xehanort - X = ehanort which is an anagram of "No heart"

I'm not too sure about Paradise. Here's my thoughts here.
despair = no hope + Y = Yophone, Nyopheo, Nypoheo, Phyoneo, something along those lines....

corruption = corrupt = impure = Not pure + Z = Tuzprone
don't know how to pronounce that.....

so the bad keybladers add either x, y, or z.

Order = is law + T= Twasil, Twisal, Twilsa, Twalsi, i don't know.

Chaos = a wreck + U = Krawecu ?????

Hope = is faith + v = Fivistha, I don't know

I'm not sure how to pronounce any of these made up names

Oh, and it would probably take longer than summer break to make a game like this. I'm a decent programmer, but I don't know if I would be able to program something like this. then again, this is my major, so I may be able to meet someone who is interested in programming such a game. but like I said before, as of right now I'm not ready to consider making such a game. maybe someday, but not today.

Hmm.. interesting. Lets play on this some more and see where it takes us.





Edit: Ok I have keyblader names here. Hope/faith = Oriens(Latin for sunrise), curruption = Turpis (Latin for foul, ugly, morally corrupt), order = Rin (I think Rin is a better name than Rai. Rin sound more authoritative), Chaos = Blaze (fire makes chaos, and Blaze is just a cool name), and finally for despair = Eclipse (It's nice name for someone who represents despair, I think. the loss of the sun during an eclipse is symbolic for despair).

So there you have it. these are the names I like. Oriens, Turpis, Rin, Blaze, and Eclipse. what do you all think?