Make up the story plot for kh3 (Group Effort)

hmmm. Interesting but I don't think that blaze should hate riku. anyways this brings up a topic That I've been meaning to discuss. I think at the end of the game, Pete should redeem himself in Mickey's eyes.

 

Very well thought of. As with Pezz, I agree he shouldn't hate Riku... but he can have hated him at first. Then, he realises Maleficent only wants her own good, so he stops hating Riku, and wants to kill that old hag.
We can say Blaze somehow helped Riku too! Helped him fight the Darkness. I seem to come up with a lot of ideas about Blaze acting behind the scenes of KH1 today.


P.S. : This Thread is completely insane when all four of us are online at the same time!:blink:

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For yesterday, if my memory serves me right...


:party-smiley-015: Pezz!

 

lolz thanks.

 

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Motherf*ck! I go to work and school for one day and you guys take a whole damn page!
Let me see if I can get my own opinions in now lol

Hm a third form? I think that's pushing it.
How about his Keyblade's special ability is to transform? Remember how Terra's Keyblade had all those forms? Blaze's Keyblade could do something similar. Or he can have more than one weapon, remember that idea we never used? The unity weapon? He could use different weapons and when he combines them, it turns into his Keyblade

That's why i prefer the Unity Weapon or transforming weapon idea. The problem I have with Bleach is that even though it's his "2nd form", imho, it's asctually his "1st form" because he never goes to a level under it.

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Genius, at first they think they left an Organization Member behind and then realize that not all Nobodies could have joined the Organization. Remember that Roxas denied at first and it was Axel that convinced him to join. But in the end, they're flat out wrong lol

Blaze helping Riku is a good idea, but not outright helping him. He helps him secretly, or in a way that, in the end, really jsut helps Blaze out

I like this. He would have hated Riku but then realizes it's really Maleficent he should be after.

Both but I was referring to the short one

This seems like it'd be a great cutscene, something that would completely surprise the player.
It could be anything from the party rushing out of the castle to escape it's fall to him helping Xehanort in some way, or even SRK themselves.

I'm looking forward to what we can do with Blaze, it's interesting having everyone flesh out a character.

good point. I just liked the idea of a Joker-like character

Well if Maleficent trained him even a little bit, it would make sense that he was a little bit like her. (I just imagined a teenage Maleficent haha)
As for the Chaos thing, I was thinking that maybe he has no choice. His power is explosive so it causes destruction when he uses it. But do you think that makes him too powerful?
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That seems like a good idea. I never thought of that.

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I can vouch for that...​

 

I'm starting to think it's better just to have him wield a Keyblade, which has two forms. Nothing more complicated, except that he keeps his Key in its 2nd form nearly always.

Xehanort could use the Unity Weapons, however.

Btw, I think I am the one to have proposed that, and I was actually referring to dual swords that can be assembled into one, so something that can be done mechanically. It seems that you got a more advanced cooncept for it, involving magic and everything. I thought we could give this to Xehanort.

Let's say he has a Keyblade that he uses as Myst, and another one he uses as himself. In the end, he unites them to make a new one. And just to add more fun, let's have both his Keyblades be the Negative Space of one another.
Like, for example, if Sora were to use this concept, his 1st Key will be his usual one, who has a crown as negative space. His 2nd Key will have a plain crown, so he'll assemble them like Legos, and unleash new powers.

So this idea could make some quick-eyed players realise who Myst is. Or at least realise he's linked to Xehanort.

Or, finally, we can apply this idea to SRK, as they'll make some sort of Drive transformations by combining two weapons.

Interesting. Good idea there. And no, it won't make him too powerful. Think of this principle :
I wield a large scythe that I swing effortlessly, but I can't control myself, and hack and slash wildly at all the walls I see. If you fight me with a wooden stick, you'll probably win, even though I have more "power".

So Blaze will, similarly, have quite a lot of power, but not use it all. He despises it, and can't fully control it. So he'll unleash it eventually, when he needs it, and at that, time, the Darkness will try to overtake him.

Suggestion : Eventually Blaze fights Xenahort, probably in the final battle. To make matters more epic, he must do so in order to help SRK, such as saving them from a surprise attack by Xehanort. He then proceeds to fight Xehanort alongside Sora, but gets downed again and again. So he gives in to his power, gets infused with fiery darkness, and goes All Shall Be Lost To You on everything. He gets defetead eventually, but Sora defeats Xehanort. Finally, Riku and Kairi convince Blaze's mind to fight the Darkness. Kairi uses her power of light, and Riku's already won that fight before, so he knows what it's like. Blaze is saved, The World Ends At Sunset collapses, the game ends, and from tehre on... well, Blaze's future, as with all the Keybladers, is yet to be seen...

 

I don't like the idea of blaze being taken by darkness. I think he should be above that. He walks with the darkness. The darkness doesn't consume him.

I like the negative space Idea. that's a keeper.

Btw, lil', I don't drink. yeah, I know. I'm no fun.

 

That'll work, I just don't like the idea of the second form being the "default", if you get what I mean but it looks like i'm outvoted lol

That's a great idea, although we'll need to have the actual Xehanort fight SRK at least once before the final battle, or show him wielding his weapon at least. That way players can see both the weapons

Well, Turpis and ORiens both die, Eclipse might. I remember it being said that in the end she'll redeem herself and help Riku escape or sometrhing but i don't think that was ever made official. Myst dies at the end too, obviously. Rin and Blaze are the only ones left, I think they both should live. Order and Chaos are the two left, that's an interesting couple.

I agree with Pezz, he shouldn't give in to the Darkness. But maybe he decides to go in deeper to the Darkness than ever before and unleash a new level, and he knows it'll probably mean losing his heart in the end or something but Kairi and Riku stop him from going too far.

I don't blame you, beer's nasty. I've gotten drunk once at Christmas off some Vodka and cranberry juice but I can't get drunk constantly.




BTW since all the Keybladers are pretty much done, let's continue working on the story as we finish them up.
Sora's story has the least information on it.
I think after he lands on Highnoon Hamlet, Oriens immediately finds him and says "I had a feeling you'd show up here" (his premonitions) and they talk for a bit and Sora follows Oriens while Oriens tutors on the controls since Riku and Kairi both have SOA's to explain the controls and SOra already had his. Then they're attacked, Oriens shows the player how to battle (a little bit of gameplay but i doubt we'll get in trouble for that).

As for Riku, he wanders around RG (After the Blaze scene of course)for a while and stumbles across Leon's gang. Which brnigs up a question. Has Riku ever met Leon and the other FF characters?? I can't remember.

Kairi awakens from her SOA and defeats the Desoul and meets Rin who said she was watching the sunset and heard all the noise.


That's only a smidge of plot. Not much Story Development but it should lead into some actual development

 

Sora is the only one who actually fights Xehanort, and he does so thrice. Once as Myst (Right before TWTNW gets destroyed). Second time is right before WEAS gets destroyed. and lastly as On Kingdom hearts during the final battle. The final battle is basically split into two parts.

part 1 is on WEAS and part 2 is Desoul Xehanort in KH.

Eclipse WILL die. She falls for Xehanort because he gives her life a purpose again. But Xehanort just uses her to stall for time by sending her to her death in a final battle against Riku. Her story is a truly tragic one.

Xehanort is the one who has gone deepest into the darkness and he did so without losing his heart. He gave up his heart. Blaze should be smart enough not to do that. he walks with the darkness without letting the darkness stain his heart.

Sora's second world should be Camelot so he can relearn his magic from Merlin. there should be one more Disney world he goes to before heading to Radiant Gardens. I think it should be Notre Dome (did i spell that right?).

Nope. I think he shouldn't interact with them that much. maybe a comment here and there.

They then head to town where her story continues.

 

Well for the negative space Keyblades idea, we need to show both Myst's and Xehanort's Keyblade at least once at separate times, before his identity is revealed and he combines them.

How about Turpis manages to catch up to Xehanort and fights him before Sora gets a chance to, Sora watches them fight briefly until Xehanort escapes and leaves a boss Desoul to fight. Turpis leaves the Desoul to Sora and chases after Xehanort. That way, players can see both sides of Xehanort's final Keyblade.

But Blaze can still attempt to gain more power to achieve his goal, whether it's fighting Maleficent or helping SRK fight Xehanort, but Riku and Kairi stop him before he does so.

Which reminds me, if we go with that, It should only be Riku that stops Blaze from going into the Darkness. If Kairi helps him, she would end up purifying him and I don't think any one of us wants a Blaze without no darkness

Hm, that's a good idea, idk about Notre Dome so early. Any other worlds we can use?

I didn't think so. Maybe just Leon helps him out real quick, introduces him to the other FF characters and say they're friends of Sora.

Town as in the main Island of Destiny Islands? That hasn't been playable yet so we might do that, at least to show Tidus, Wakka, Selphie.

I thought they would next go to Highnoon Hamlet so Rin could introduce Kairi to Oriens, but he just left to take Sora to Camelot. Kairi explores the town by herself (maybe Rin's looking for Oriens, although I pictured him as the type who would leave a note behind saying where he went)
Since we already said Kairi would meet Turpis at HH, she would run into him.
He would have returned to see if he could get a lead on Xehanort by seeing if there's any clues from when Xehanort stole his research. For some reason, Turpis sends his monster to fight her, she manages to defeat him (her first boss battle, outside of SOA) and when Turpis attacks her, revealing HIS Keyblade, Rin saves her.
Rin recognizes him, attacks, and he escapes.

How's that? I figure instead of doing those long scenarios we do, it would be better to get the plot-line worked out and then do the scene

 

We do see it, when Sora fights Myst. This is right before Xehanort reveals himself.

but he's not a power freak. That falls within corruption.

someone has to go to Notre Dome early. perhaps we can use Neverland again. We can use the second peter pan movie, with the um.... octopus instead of the crocodile.

Riku shouldn't be too involved though. remember, he's a loner.

Yup. There is nothing else on the small island.

Oriens should meet up with Rin and Kairi on DI. Oriens doesn't travel with Sora, and Rin Doesn't travel with Kairi. Oriens will teach Kairi to use her power to travel and send her on her way.

Remember, the original worlds are plot points so they can not happen one after another. When Kairi opens a path to a new world she is blindly connecting paths she has no control over which new world she goes to. however once that path is opened, she can travel back and forth at will.

we should have like two disney worlds before going to another original world. That will be our set number.

 

I'm not sure about this. Having two Keybladers introduced at once makes things a bit too quick.



As for Blaze, I see Pezz is determined to have him not touch to the darkness too much... and I sorta agree. Since Blaze knows a lot about the darkness, probably even mroe than Riku, he'll moderate his use. Of course, when prompted in a climatic final battle, he might be tempted, but the situation won't really require it. SRK and the Keybladers are, after all, on Blaze's side when he wants to destroy Xehanort. He may want to solo him, seeking to destroy the darkness, but will Sora just stand there and watch? I don't think so. They should team up for a segment of the battle.


Btw, I finally finished my design for Rin. The word "finally" is actually misleading ; I did 80% of the work last Friday at school, and finished it Sunday night. I also have that new Keyblade to show. It's very late now, so I can try to scan it tomorrow. Hopefully my scanner works, otherwise I'll have to rely on the school's one.
I fear that my desing is too undecisive though, since I'm not good at drawing, and didn't even draw a face... more details tomorrow.

 

yeah, I was sorta thinking the same thing, it's just that I thought that should be the one to teach her.

 

Hm... how about this then :

Oriens taught Rin a lot of what he knew, maybe not everything, but Rin became independent and strong.
Now, she wants/has to prove herself by taking Kairi under her wing. Of course, this means that she'll help her here and there, and let Kairi do her own learning ; Rin can't follow her everywhere.

This idea doesn't lead us too far, but it's, in my opinion, a happy medium between having Oriens teaching Kairi and not having him. Oriens teaches Rin, who teaches Kairi.

 

Well if we do something Where Oriens' keyblade gives him premonitions or something, then we could say that he sent Rin there because he knew something important was going to happen that would be crucial to the universe's survival. while at this new world, Rin sees the sun setting, and gazes at it in wonder. And then Kairi ends up meeting Rin.

The reason why Oriens didn't go himself could be because of another premonition that he has. This one would be about Sora appearing at HH.

 

That's a good idea.

Speaking of Keyblade's abilities, I know i've stated it before, but Turpis' Keyblade absorbs energy. Turpis can use the energy as a weapon by expelling it, absorb it himself, or more commonly to power up his weapon.
In the final battle with Kairi (after he kills Oriens) he stabs his One, his "pet", and absorbs it into himself to gain a new form. I'm working on the sketches of Turpis and One.

So would Oriens send Sora to Camelot to relearn his magic from Merlin?
When would Sora learn about the Desouls? At first, I thought Oriens would tell him because he fought Turpis and the first escaped Desouls, but Oriens never knew exactly what Desouls were. Who tells the characters about them?

Since King Mickey, Donald, and Goofy won't have such big roles this time, maybe their part could be recon. And what happened to Chip and Dale after the crash?

 

Nah, Camelot will just coincidentally be the next world that he visits. Sora will learn of the desoul in HH, since HH will consist solely of desouls. This is reminiscent of how Traverse Town only had heartless and Twilight town only had Nobodies. Yen Sid's Tower is considered another world by the game's creator which is why the heartless there don't count as being a part of Twilight town.

As for Chip and Dale...... well, there are two choice. Choice number one they travel with Sora. Choice two, they die in the crash. personally I would prefer choice two, but that really isn't an option is it?

 

Yea, but someone told him what Heartless and Nobodies were. I would say introduce Myst but that would introduce another Keyblader too early...
Maybe Oriens should have found out more about Desouls than I figured.

I thought Chip and Dale could travel with Riku, in the same way Jiminy always traveled with Sora, although we haven't mentioned him at all.

WIth Riku's seriousness, Chip and Dale would lighten the situation and add some humor.