Mafia [Mafia] The Masquerade in Salem ~ GAME OVER (MAFIA WINS)

So wait, you make some long ass post, and based on the responses to that post determines who is mafia and who isn't.

Funny thing about forum games. Some people have lives, some people have **** to do, and some people don't feel like explaining over and over to the same person why they aren't mafia. I laughed at you putting me as #1 because I know that is a horribly stupid "town" move. So you are either mafia, or a town member shooting yourself in the foot. Both of those things to me, are funny. If I get voted off, cool. I'll still sleep well at night.

 

She makes a good point, Hyuga.

 

Okay look, there's no reason to get hostile. I have explained more than once now, that my long post does not determine anything. I was purely stating: the way I felt about everyone, asking them to explain what was going on in their heads, answer any accusations I had towards them, and list whom they believed to be mafia. I shouldn't have to keep repeating myself. If you're not mafia, you're more than capable of telling me what members you believe are.

I understand that people have lives, you think I don't?? I work full time. I know people have stuff to do away from khv. It's also why I asked some of the inactive players to please explain why they aren't that active.

You're not the only one that has had to defend themselves more than once. James has had to do it more than a dozen times now. Some of the others have had to do it nearly as many as well.

 

Update: The numbers aren't turning out as easily as I'd thought they would so I'm going to be temporarily suspending the mafia points system, but I did come up with a few things to think about. There are 5 mafia and 9 townsfolk left. Barring the doctor's role actually mattering or the mafia failing to select a target, which are both still pretty unlikely, the town can only afford to lynch one more town member or have two no lynch results before the mafia has almost won message shows up. This means two missed lynches means the game and 4 missed days means the same. This will hold true for the rest of the game. Even if one mafia is lynched they will simply take it back during the night so the positions will remain unchanged.

For anyone who doesn't agree with my methods, I don't care. Think what you want, I'm sticking to my way.

I missed a voting day for personal reasons, not that it mattered, so today I'll make my decision for today now before something like that happens.

Vote: skull joke

The only thing positively and publicly correlated with town membership is having a low post count, that is fact. You can say it's a mistake to assume the opposite, but we've never once seen a death among those with higher posts and without data points there we cannot say that there isn't a correlation between post count and mafia membership. If I'm wrong, the numbers have improved for it and we'll be able to seek out a stronger pattern. If I'm right, we have another free day to improve the numbers again.

However, since not having a lynch doesn't help the town either, I'm somewhat open to changing my vote to whoever looks the most like they're going to get it. Bandwagoning as you have been calling it. I would prefer it if people just followed me instead.

Notes: As for the mafia point system, I'm considered doing round by round weights based on the chance of hitting mafia versus townsfolk because before the system treated malice and mistakes with equal severity, however with a weighted system mistakes early on will be counted for less whereas later on killing townsfolk will increase the score more. Secondarily, I'll be working on the value of No Lynch and not voting because those actually do hurt the town in the end. If we look at it as risk and reward .25 of a mafia member and ~1.75 townsperson die on the first day/night cycle if you vote. However, if you don't vote or vote no lynch 0 mafia members die an 1 townsperson dies. It's somewhat abstract seeming but the meaning of that is you have to vote and thus risk hitting a townsperson to get a mafia member but the mafia get almost free kills. This should be reflected in the mafia point system, because the points exist to measure who is helping the town most and who is helping least.

 

@h y u g e I'm not sure if it helps my apparently still dubious case, but the reason why I haven't had a chance to consolidate a proper vote for the past couple of Day Phases was because of some hard-lynching ninjas. I'm not even kidding, last time Cstar took it home right as I was writing my follow-up post. Aside from that, in light of those very same lynches and the lineup of remaining players, my current stance on the game is pretty much based on my initial feeling that the mafia would opt for a diversified posting strategy, but with some bias towards the middle posting-activity range. I'm sorry if anyone's bothered by this for some reason, but yes, I did take Jiku's table as reference. For one thing, regardless of her allignment (or even your qualms about numbers), it can be pretty darn useful. Moreover, I'm standing in a veeeery dangerous position on that list myself. While I don't suspect Jayn as much as a number of other players do — perhaps out of sympathy for her, I'm not entirely sure —, I feel like we could be the next in line to get night-murdered, should the mafia maintain the trend.

To further elaborate on my theory, I believe the mafia's reasoning behind it is to lead the more frequent posters to turn against each other, while backed up by the fact that a lot of those players also decided to go for the inactive ones. After a while, you can see more and more people doubting people like below and Digi. Their ability to repeatedly shake off suspicions (as well as mine, I'll admit) ought to force the mafia to change tactics, if my guess is to be trusted. On that note, I agree with the mafia predictions some of you posted, to an extent. I'd say people like Marushi, Beau, godhead, burnitup, in no particular order, and maybe Princess or Jiku. I intend to place a vote later on, assuming the Roaring Twenties ninjas haven't struck again by the time I do.

In addition, I don't know why this wasn't pointed out already, but if a person has voted for most, if not all players lynched so far, it doesn't mean they're mafia right off the bat. Some of you tried using this argument before, but it simply doesn't hold up, namely because that simply means they're only trying to advance the game. We can only blame rotten luck and/or the mafia. As mentioned way back, I think, the ones that don't vote or just try to steer off otherwise correct accusations using fishy reasons are more likely culprits, although the latter can't be confirmed until we actually kill the accused.

 

uugh i was hoping i could last the whole game without being voted for.


If someone refuses to engage in constructive conversation regardless of how busy they are or when they're here, I'm inclined to think they're mafia. The problem is that it seems a little too obvious, similar to how we thought TB was 'obvious,' but when there's so little to go by for everyone and I already suspected that person, I'm not going to change my vote. so yeah. sticking with burnitup unless something else happens

 

I hope I don't regret this...

Vote: Burnitup

Though I guess if he's not, I know who is.

 

{ I know that earlier it was a thing that I had only voted for people who had voted for themselves and I've only contributed to TB's death but that's because that kind of behavior is counter-productive and doesn't look good to me.

And while I don't know that I find it marfia-like to be apathetic about being killed off, when you give someone a chance to defend themselves or call them out and they don't really seem to care either way I become more inclined to vote for them because to be they're either mafia or don't have the town's best interest at heart.

That being said I'm at a loss. I've already shared my opinion on BtD but since he's finally said something I don't know.

You guys seem to be leaning towards burnitup. He comes across as genuine to me for the most part ... But at this rate I'm just going to be ?? ???? about everybody because there's no obvious answer here. :/

There's also Jiku and I am 50/50 on her like a lot of you so between her and burnitup, he fits the apathetic bill and doesn't really seem all too invested + his defense is weak.

I'm not going to vote right this second but I'm mulling it over. } ​

{ That's apart of the game. It *is* annoying, but it's a thing and when you're town I think the best thing to do is just make your case. } ​

 

With Bandwagon in Hand Shall I Lynch the Sins of This World

• burnitup - 4 (Cstar, skull joke, mystic, DigitalAtlas)
• Jiku Neon - 3 (anelg, burnitup, Princess ♥)
• skull joke - 1 (Jiku Neon)

It turns out I was previously aware of DigitalAtlas's conversation partner, because it was me. I'm gonna go ahead and rule that talking to me about the game is... somewhat permissible, because I trust myself not to relay what I've heard to others. But let it be known that players will receive no further leniency on this front. I don't care how excited you are, you don't talk about the game outside this thread because it ruins the game. And then your excitement amounts to nothing.

Also, deadline is less than 24 hours away.

 

YOU HEAR THAT MAFIA STOP TALKING AND PLANNING OUR DEATHS YOU'RE TALKING OUTSIDE OF THE THREAD ;_;

 

Well, not really if you're just going by who voted for him. He's been very suspicious and is worthy of our votes imo. Though I would think after this next night it wouldn't be too hard to pinpoint who of the remaining players are mafia. The problem is if it will be too late.

 

Trust me, if I was permitting that logic, then I wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

 

I am aware of this, but I am reacting as I normally would. It seemed that Hyuge was harping on me for literally no reason. I am fine with people throwing names around with good reason. But if there isn't any reason to follow it up, I scratch my head.

 

I gave you my reason in my post. A rather lengthy one at that. Did you read what I had to say about each player? I'm finding it hard to believe that you did, otherwise you wouldn't be laughing and saying that I've got no reason to be suspicious of you. I have my reasons and I stated them clearly.

I'm still waiting to see if burnitup gives any sort of defense as to why we shouldn't vote for him other than 'it's not me' but I will have my vote cast before I leave work.

 

Sigh... I still think Jiku's one of the most likely, and I haven't considered Burnitup yet. But we don't have any more time, and people are right, we do need a lynch. If Burnitup turns out to be a townie, I shall be quite put out.

Vote: Burnitup

I so hope you guys haven't led me astray.

 

I'm sticking with my gut, even though it looks like we already have a lynchee.
Here's hoping we do some damage this time.

 

Kay, Sorry. I'm gonna Unvote: Burnitup. Something's telling me to back off, Ireally don't think he's Mafia, and you guys only need four to soft-lynch. I won't vote Jiku again, I don't want to cause a tie and ruin things. But I don't want my name on this if I don't believe in it. Sorry Nova, hope I didn't mess things up for you.[DOUBLEPOST=1398367541][/DOUBLEPOST]Gah, forgot to bold. XD

Unvote: Burnitup

 

{ Ugh. I hat dis game. I've been passive enough in the game so far so I'm going to

vote: Burnitup

even though I'm on the fence still. He still hasn't really given us a reason not to, so. :/ } ​

 

AND CLEANSE IT IN THE FIRES OF THE LYNCH MOB

• burnitup - 5 (Cstar, skull joke, mystic, DigitalAtlas, Jayn)
• Jiku Neon - 3 (anelg, burnitup, Princess ♥)
• skull joke - 1 (Jiku Neon)

I am Haku-men. DEADLINE HAS COME . . .

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Though convictions waver, ultimately a clear majority emerges. The lynchee laughs off his fate dismissively... but when one of you goes for the pistol, his resolve crumbles. He pleads with you to reconsider, but it's far, far too late for that.

burnitup has been lynched. He was Ivan Hunter, deckhand and heavy lifter for Crown Shipping. He didn't find himself very bright, but owed the Crowninshields his livelihood and so tried to help them; now his debt has been repaid. He was aligned with the Town, and had no special abilities.

The family's misfortune continues. If only the lad had made himself a better case... but this is no time to dwell on mistakes. You retire to your rooms for the night, less eager than ever before to face the next day.

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N I G H T • F I V E​

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Night ends Sunday, April 27th, 7:00 P.M. (GMT-5). You know the drill.

 

I AM THE DEAD MAN OF THE DEADS JUST ONE THING TO SAY