Mafia [Mafia] The Masquerade in Salem ~ GAME OVER (MAFIA WINS)

ughh. math. not for me

 

well this leaves us in quite the predicament
either we have the worst luck i've ever seen or the mafia are too damn good at throwing us on the wrong trail

 

I... I can't believe we killed another townie. We're dropping like flies here! And it was Tale, of all people. I should have trusted him. I killed one of me own pirates! (though I loved that he was a governess named Clara). Have another Dalek-Coca-Cola in your next life, and save the Doctor a few more times. :(

We really need to step up our game, here. I'm a suspect this time, so ask away. And... I think we ought to avoid a hard-lynch, at least for awhile. We have until Thursday, let's be sure of ourselves before we kill again.[DOUBLEPOST=1398129269][/DOUBLEPOST]Kay, so I just re-read the entire thread. And then again. Some notes of interest: House had posted that he was "Conan the Barbarian," and lo-and-behold, his townie's name was Conan. This also happened with Senpai, who stated that she was "Just a simple locksmith," And she was. This isn't exactly crucial, but I think it's indicative that some things, some little words or phrases, could mean more than they at first seem to. We should pay attention to these small tells, we never know when we might catch something important.

DigitalAtlas has been very loud, last Day Phase especially. Looking back, he pushed the vote for Tale almost obsessively due to Tale's silence, but in the name of unity, stated he did not want Tale to come speak. He even ordered a quick vote despite the early hour, specifically calling Bite the Dust, who voted Tale almost immediately, and Beau, who was trying to get everyone to slow down and think.

Calling Beau specifically like this made it seem as if Beau was deliberately holding back and harming our chances of winning, even though we had plenty of time to talk things over. And his final statement about Tale's chance here in this quote made it seem as if Tale's silence proved his involvement with the Mafia.

Not to mention, throughout this entire thread, DigitalAtlas has been making statements regarding his own importance and innocence, saying things like:

The defense in question:

This defense, while informative, hardly proves his innocence. The jist of what he is saying is that he is important to us because of the information he gives, and that this information should keep us alive. Information, which, consists mainly of pointing suspicion to several people, Mafia or not, and also voting for Tale, Senpai, and TwilightBlader. Even with his given reasons, he is one of the only two members to have voted for all three of the confirmed townies, with the other being skull joke. Now, bringing skull joke into the mix, it seems to me that throughout this whole deal, skull joke and DigitalAtlas have been subtly covering for each other this entire time.

Meanwhile, DigitalAtlas has also been against voting for Jiku, even while claiming to be suspicious. His reasons for keeping her are the same for keeping himself: If she is Mafia, she's not doing much harm, while as a townie, her numbers are exceedingly valuable. While this reason is a good point for both her and him, we don't know what happens during the night phase. For all we know, Jiku and Atlas could be a driving force of the Mafia, even leading it. To say that because they're not affecting us during the Day Phase is good enough reason to put them above suspect is rather suspect in and of itself. Another note: DigitalAtlas stated that Jiku had posted her list on request.

Now, I've got a pretty bad memory, but I don't remember this request coming in. Can anyone point that out to me?

Don't get me wrong, aside from Atlas's involvement, I don't entirely suspect Jiku yet. Mainly, I suspect DigitalAtlas to be Mafia, and a few others along with him. However, I am NOT going to vote just yet. If DigitalAtlas can give any defense for what I said, then by all means, I want to hear it. We can NOT afford to keep killing so haphazardly.

I also have some suspicions on who may be Cop and Doctor, but I will not name names or give reasons, in an attempt to protect those roles.

I realize that this tl;dr really puts me on the spot, both as a townie who may know too much, or a mafia member who is trying too hard. I suppose that only time will tell where my loyalties lie. In the meantime, lets talk this over. We need to vote a lynch, yes, but we can't afford to move too quickly. Make haste slowly, or whatever.[DOUBLEPOST=1398129694][/DOUBLEPOST]Oops, must have accidentally bolded my post somewhere along the way.

Also, I forgot to finish one of my points I mentioned, the one about him being very vocal about both his importance and his innocence. For someone to repeat those sentiments so often is often a sign that they are not what they say. It's like in old detective shows, when the murderer makes careful sure to have the time pointed out as often as possible, to give him an alibi. "My watch is broken, can you tell me the time?" Said at the supposed time of death. You know. If someone is trying too hard to seem less suspicious, they only end up seeming all the more guilty.

 

Let me state three things:

1. Hyuge led a hard-lynch the previous day, and we sang songs. I'm not pushing her under the bus because I don't find her suspicious. I'll point a gun at her under the table maybe, but I'm not going to suspect her to actually kill me in the night. What I'm saying is, someone has to do it. We're not getting anywhere if we don't. Previously I led no such charge. Previously I brought suspects to attention, or voted and kept silent after a paragraph or two. If you got that itch, that suspicion, the only way to know the answer is to finish them off.

2. Do not remove context from my words. I did not say Tale couldn't defend himself. I encouraged it by tagging him and bringing him in the thread- he did not do anything. When I said the line you quoted, I meant I wanted someone to mix things up. I didn't want the same defense said over and over, but rather people to point out something they've seen that I haven't.

3. You do know what happens during the night phase. The person revealed to have been killed was voted to be killed. Whether a leader or not is irrelevant because they still had to have wanted those people dead. The only time my vote aligned with the mafia is with Senpai, who was acting weird from the beginning. Now let's be honest, the mafia went after her after I voted for her. Speaking to those who know me... wouldn't that be a dumb, obvious move to point fingers at me and put me on the defensive? Wouldn't it have been awful for me to do that to myself? The last time we pointed fingers at me, I showed how every post I've made is elaborate with very careful wording so I could prove my innocence. Why would I make a dumb move like that considering I've shown such caution?

If you want to kill me, kill me. Maybe it'll prove the possible innocence of Below and show Jiku needs to only be on strict watch due to that chart as I've said before- which also shows you've taken what I've said out of context. Maybe it'll show you that I've already revealed what my strategy would be if I was mafia- to kill all the talkative players and make the game a safe ghost town for the mafia. The mafia just killed a very absent Spike.

I'll assure you now, when you kill me I will appear as a townie. I could even supply my name. In which case, because you led this charge, it will be you who will go down. It will show my claim of frame is true and add undeniable truth to my genuine claims. If death is what it takes- if my participation has no value other than genuine curiosity of my side, then kill me and let's get this show on the road.

With that said... Marushi hasn't had a paragraph like this yet, has he? Aimed at me, the guy who's babbling on and on about the mafia trying to pit you people against me. Anyone who voted for Tale is a suspect, including myself. Anyone with confirmed town kills is a suspect- including myself.

If you kill me, you'll reveal the traitors. We have four chances left before the mafia over runs us.

 

Alright, sounds like an adequate enough defense to me. Like I said, I merely wanted to hear your side of things, which is why I made such an extensive post with my questions. lol, you're right, this is the first time I've written such an elaborate post in this thread. I haven't done this much quoting and arguing in a few years. XD It was exhausting. While I still have a bit of suspicions for everyone, you're now (mainly) off my list. Time will tell if this is a mistake.[DOUBLEPOST=1398131483][/DOUBLEPOST]Oh yeah, also, for the sake of avoiding future confusion, I am indeed a girl. :)

 

I think Marushi brings up some good points. I've been suspicious of digitalatlas for a few cycles now, but I moved on as the tides turned and other arguments were made against other towns people. I think this last lynching is enough to confirm my suspicions however.

Vote: DigitalAtlas

 

I'm going to make a statement here and if I go down, I want it remembered:

I believe the mafia consists of Mystic, Burnitup, Jayn, Beau, and Jiku. Maybe exchange one of those names with Cstar, but I doubt that. To clarify, I don't believe any of us talkative folks are suspicious nor are we mafia. But those people have shown suspicion by staying harmless, showing up after kills or near the end of them, or trying to turn the crowd on me after the Senpai lynching, when the mafia got the idea to set me up for a fall.

Like I said, you can kill me. After yesterday, you have every right to suspicion. I don't think it's worth the little time we have to just bag one mafia, let alone all five. But if you want to, if it will lead the town in the right direction, then do it. I'll fulfill my role of defending myself, but I will win this game one way or the other.

 

Alright, I really wish I had stood my ground and not voted for talewind as a last minute thing. However, I'm not entirely sure if my accusations towards DigitalAtlas were valid either. In fact, the more and more I keep thinking about this, the more and more lost I get.

So. Here are a few people I wish to question.

@anelg hey hi. How are ya? So, I may have just missed it come up before but... I have never seen anyone take an attempt to see what's going on on your end because... well you see. And this argument could actually counter back towards me, when I see you vote, I tend to see you vote for the majority and well... most of the time I don't see any true reasons why other than a quick sentence.

@Jayn I know you have access limitations lately but I still don't want to completely leave you out of the loop because while it proves to be a good and valid alibi I don't think it should keep you out of the questioning game.

@Bite the Dust so after that whole fiasco you kind of... vanished. and I know that you purposefully moved to kill yourself off but I half believe that this may or may not have been an attempt to throw us off guard and be like "Oh **** run!"


okay... that's my 3... no accusations yet...

 

Forgot to mention my other assumption is skull joke is mafia.

 

Vote No Lynch

 

Vote: burnitup

It is TOO LATE in this game, for you to vote a no lynch without giving a clear reason why

 

Actually, we have two chances to kill a mafia assuming they kill a townie every night...

 

Meh, just don't have an opinion. So no lynch.

 

...what? no we don't. We only get one chance to kill a mafia, the mafia gets two chances to kill a townie.

 

If you have no opinion, you could wait until an opinion is formed before casting a vote. We have until Thursday before a decision must be made.

 

I'm talking chances as in days? Are you? Because your math doesn't make sense.... I'm talking days before the mafia overrun us?

 

I thought you meant every day phase whoops.

 

You can always just remove your vote so it's not big deal until it draws towards the end of that day

I have no opinion so far but I do plan on voting. I will be reading up on this thread some more in the meantime.

 

Yeah, no. We have thirteen players remaining. Four more townie deaths means the mafia overruns the population and we lose. The mafia won't kill a mafia, so we have two chances.

 

I'm good, all things considered with this game.
Well, skull joke voted for me last round but he didn't really push me into the defensive the same way that people have done with Jay.
You're right that I tend to stick with the popular vote, and that's because I feel guilty taking an unpopular stance when I'm uncertain of the person's alignment. That being said, however, I'm going to go out on a limb now and vote for Jiku Neon. Something about the whole "numbers are trustworthy" approach rubs me the wrong way, not to mention I've had my doubts from the very beginning. I feel guilty for being a part of the herd, but now I think I'll take a chance. After all, we might as well go out with our gut feelings, right?
And as for reasoning, I'm usually either on mobile or just too lazy to type out more than a sentence or two. Might make me look bad, but it's the honest truth.