Mafia [Mafia] The Book of Names ~ GAME OVER (MAFIA WINS)

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  1. KeyToTruth12 Moogle Assistant

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    You seems to be taking my hunch and votes a bit too seriously. Yes, I know I didn't gave any explanation on my votes, but that's just how I play. I might give a reason for my votes if there's enough proof or evidence, but right now there are none for the moment. (At my perspective)

    I didn't post my reads because they are confirmed mafia. (And I got home late)
    My reads/hunches were completely wrong that day, and I reconsidered my thoughts, which leads to this.

    I'll try to reason if I got enough reads. Hopefully.
     
  2. Zelda What will happen next?

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    @log I did not say I thought she was day 1

    i thought she was acting weird and it only occurred to me night 1 after she voted

    I'm not helping myself am I?

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    @KeyToTruth12 did you mean confirmed town?
     
  3. KeyToTruth12 Moogle Assistant

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  4. Midnight Star Master of Physics

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    You realise tagging log isn't going to alert me, right?

    And that really wasn't obvious in your post, it may have been more helpful to say that earlier in the day as this is the first you've mentioned of doubts about her.

    No, not particularly.
     
  5. Zelda What will happen next?

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    Yeah, I know, wasn't necessarily trying to alert you; it was just something for when you checked.

    You try saying something like that immediately after saying you don't think she's suspicious. continues crying

    Good, nice to know it's not just me.
     
  6. Trigger hewwo uwu

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    Going to add Zelda to my list of mafia reads... they seem overly nervous/stumbling over themselves after being suspected and put on the spot. It's not a lot, but something to consider.
     
  7. Zelda What will happen next?

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  8. Ars Nova Just a ghost.

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    To account for several factors (not least of which being my twelve-hour shift this Friday), deadline will be extended to Thursday, November 27th, 12 ᴘ.ᴍ. (EST). If a hard lynch is reached, Night start may be delayed to this time.
     
  9. Midnight Star Master of Physics

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    ...That middle point is actually a very good point. That would have caused you a lot more suspicion than you already had. I apologise. Regardless of your alignment, it wouldn't have been beneficial to say that earlier. Therefore not saying that earlier really shouldn't be used to prove you are mafia.


    *mutters incoherently at spell-check trying to tell me apologise should be spelled with a 'z'*
     
  10. ShibuyaGato Transformation

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    I would. It seems that people's opinions are quite set. Just because I tried to break the ice on day one, I've become the most prominent suspect - though I suppose I should've known starting with jokes wouldn't be the best strategy, I was trying to be more active in this game than in my two previous KHV Mafia endeavors.
    If anyone has any questions or points they'd specifically like to bring up, I'm all for answering them. After all we have some extra time, and if I'm gonna die anyway I might as well be productive to the town.

    I'm kind of drawing a blank on just how to defend myself at the moment, so I'm going to go ahead and make a document on Google Drive with all my suspicions and some evidence. Expect that later tonight/early tomorrow.

    [DOUBLEPOST=1416958986][/DOUBLEPOST]Man, I actually finished it today. I'm pleasantly surprised. Here you go, guys.

    Sorry for the theme and colors of it all, but I'm in a Persona Q kind of mood.
     
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  11. KeyToTruth12 Moogle Assistant

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    It needs permission. Huh.
     
  12. al215 Kingdom Keeper

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    Yeah, Cat~ you need to make it an open document. We can't actually see it at the moment. I do appreciate the effort and I'll look forward to taking a look at it.
     
  13. Midnight Star Master of Physics

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    If you click on share in the top right, it gives an option to create a shareable link, that's why people don't need to get a link from me. Also this is really appreciated.
     
  14. ShibuyaGato Transformation

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    whoops, sorry about that

    this one should work
     
  15. al215 Kingdom Keeper

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    Just to answer the question you have, I'm keeping it quiet for now just to see if they play it out today. If what I'm thinking comes to pass then we may get an idea of who the Mafia are and if I'm right, I don't want to lose the chance. The idea I have is admittedly a little complex but it's one that I think could work, especially now we have this dead time between now and Friday although the activity in the thread is really not high enough by the looks of things for it to happen. In any case, I'll keep it quiet until Friday and/or when and if I see it working.[DOUBLEPOST=1417022375][/DOUBLEPOST]"seems to restate/agree with other posts most often, though

    he does thoroughly justify the points he focuses on"

    If people make a point that I agree with, then I may as well agree and explain why I agree with it and then move on. At least that way people have an understanding of why I do as I do, and in the process of finding out whether I agree I may well come across something that's useful.

    As for your reads, you and I agree on KeyToTruth at least and you're highlighting him as your best read. To be honest, this makes me a little less suspicious of you because if you are both Mafia, you're playing a pretty risky game by throwing your buddy out there as your highest suspect. Key is now a higher read for me than you are, but my eyes are on you.

    That all said, curious about Zelda's last minute vote switch. In the event that you are Mafia Cat~, placing them there in the ambiguous yet suspect actually works out quite well. If you put them as town, that would come out as a little suspect and if you put them as Mafia- They're a suspected Mafia of course they're suspect. Hmm... Zelda is another one to watch I'll agree with you there. But then again, why not simply ignore...? This will require some thought. I may just have to put a few potential Mafia combos out there soon, see what people think.
     
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  16. Midnight Star Master of Physics

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    Loving the format and this was actually really good and useful, it's making me doubt that you are actually Mafia. However (I'm really sorry!!) with this now, I think it may be most useful to town to lynch you and find out your alignment. The thing is if you're had people go after you and you've cased your suspicions and we should have a lot to look at. However, what it all means depends entirely on your alignment. If you turn out town, we look at your pp knowing it was genuine and look at who went after you. If on the other hand, you turn out to be mafia, well then we look at who went after you/defended you and your pp in a completely different light. I'm really sorry but as it stands I think the most helpful thing you can do for town is die. I'm sorry!!!
     
  17. al215 Kingdom Keeper

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    I think I unfortunately may have to agree with you there Midnight. Currently, all of my theory is confused by the issue of not knowing whether Cat~ is Mafia. Whichever she turns out to be it's valuable information. It's a shame though because she's been quite useful here.
     
  18. ShibuyaGato Transformation

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    While I can understand the logic behind lynching me to see if my opinions are valid, I really would prefer to go after Key sice he's at the top of everyone's radar, or at least start questioning Trigger or Tummer.

    If worst comes to worst though, this has been nice. And I'm glad my slideshow was at least of some help.
     
  19. al215 Kingdom Keeper

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    It's safe to say that in the event that we do kill you, Key will be on our radars. At the moment however, for the bigger picture knowing your exact alignment suits us far better sadly. It allows us to look at what you've said in a clearer light. Trigger and Tummer may be worth looking at depending on what your alignment turns out to be (Although I'm getting more convinced that you're town). And yes, the slideshow was very, very helpful.

    I'm starting to consider who is on the death list for this particular game night and I think that Midnight is probably the one who is going to die. Judge Sunrose was a productive Town Member as is Midnight so far, which would then make her the next logical kill. Considering that we have no Watcher role of any kind there is nothing really to stop the Mafia killing productive players one by one at night. They'll find it far easier to kill productive people at night and less productive people by day with some careful suggestions by my reckoning. I assume that at least, is part of their plan (although it's not what I'm keeping under wraps). It makes sense to me, which would therefore lead me to conclude that the Mafia are hiding in the mid-range to low post rate players.

    If you think about it on a scale of Productive to Inactive (Or Judge Sunrose to Spike), then neither suits them. A productive Mafia player while they can seize control of the town could also arouse suspicion by being the only super helpful person still alive later. With too low a post rate they become a target for policy lynching which leads me to believe that they are best suited scattered in the mid range. Can someone pull together a post total for me? I know there's one on each page in Cat~'s slideshow. An up to date one would be nice in particular because I don't know if Midnight's is up to speed with current events. If we take a look at the mid rangers in post count then we can examine them, figure out who is suspicious amongst them and then come to a conclusion.

    It's probably a little early to be considering who is going to die tonight but I just had the idea and I wanted to get it out here in the thread for discussion since we're pretty much set on the lynch for today and we may as well use this spare time we've been blessed with for some useful discussion. I would definitely like the up to date post count that's for sure.

    Any thoughts on that folks?
     
  20. Midnight Star Master of Physics

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    Even if you are going to die, we probably still should do most of that, as much as we can before night. We can help everyone the best we can while you're still alive to weigh in (maybe me too) meaning they can make a more informed decision tomorrow.

    @KeyToTruth12 What are your thoughts on everything? Who are your top reads? Your posts all tend to be very short and that's not doing you any favours, take a bit of time and put a bit of effort into your posts or you're at risk of being lynched. You're near the top of a lot of people's reads.