Mafia [Mafia] Mr. E's Murder Mystery at Misty Mountain Manor ~ GAME OVER (EVERYONE'S A WINNER!)

lol, yeah, I think I need to stop doing that. XD

 

Yes... But we would still get more info from who he chose than we have gotten from him so far.

I'm okay with having only three votes on each, I guess, but only town will need a lynch while mafia can sit back and kill people at night with little consequence. So the information we gain will be pretty small if we avoid lynches altogether.

 

So Mak, just to confirm this: The plan now is just to leave the situation as it is until the day is done? We lynch The Fuk? for being generally not helpful and then see the result of that and wait for the night's killing to be done?

 

I think that is the logical thing to do. If anyone wants to kill Beau or Spike instead, they will step forward on their own.

 

Except there is no reason for anyone do to so when we already have a soft lynch on The Fuk?. We're giving the mafia an out this way. The ones that have already voted, won't need to change their votes, and the ones that haven't aren't in need of voting when there is already someone on death row. The only reason anyone would vote for Beau or Spike at this point is if they really felt one of them deserved to die more than TF? who hasn't really said much throughout the entire course of the first day. No one would want to risk putting themselves on the chopping block for the new day if they don't have to.

 

You aren't wrong. But I still believe this is the best move.[DOUBLEPOST=1415732916][/DOUBLEPOST]If someone wanted to make it even better, we could have @Beau vote for Mish. You alright with that, Beau?

 

sorry just got home from school

and sure i trust your judgement since you're a confirmed townie haha

##Unvote: Calxiyn

##Vote: Mish

 

Sorry if I missed the memo somewhere down the line, but is there any specific reason we're voting for Mish here? From what I can tell there's no explanation anywhere around here so I'm a bit confused at your motives here Mak. I'm just confused because this:

Says nothing about voting for Mish. What do we gain by bringing her up from 1 vote to 2? I know that we've got the plan of bringing people to three votes in the case of a sneaky end of the day lynch, but beyond that I've got no idea. Unless what you're trying to do is control exactly where everyone's votes are so we notice someone consolidating... But then... Someone could switch votes but then that would an obvious tell. You've confused the daylights out of me here Mak. My only conclusion is you want to know precisely where everyone is voting so it's easy to tell if someone switches.

 

Someday the Votals Will Be Accurate

• Beau - 3 (Calxiyn, Spike, Mish)
• Mish - 2 (The Fuk?, Beau)
• The Fuk? - 4 (cstar, Makaze, Trigger, tale_wind)
• Spike - 3 (Hyuge, al215, Marushi)

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch and 4 to soft-lynch. Day ends in 4 hours.

 

My motives are to gain as much information as possible. You'll see what I mean come the end of the Day.

 

Very well. I get the impression I've got a lot to learn about your modus operandi Mak. It's a little... Unique I'll say that much. You seem to be quite a bit more aggressive in your questioning and ideas in comparison to others players. Were you not confirmed town then I expect that people would be arguing with you a lot more than they are now.

 

You should have seen the last game...

 

That tells me everything I need to know right there XD

 

@Trigger
@Mish
@Marushi
@Beau
@cstar
@h y u g e
@al215
@The Fuk?
@Calxiyn
@Spike
@Highlandeɼ

Sometime between now and the end of Day, I am going to switch my vote to one of the other three candidates, those being Spike, Beau, and Mish.

It goes without saying that any vote changes will reflect on your alignment since I am confirmed town and you are not. With that in mind, please have fun.

 

So I realized last night that we've put ourselves in a bit of a tricky position. The reason we're keeping the Fuk? at a soft lynch is because he's obviously the most inactive out of everyone. But with the way the backup votal is set up now, the only thing he would have to do to save himself is unvote Mish and vote for either Beau or Spike at the last second, and that would bring them to a timestamped tie.

Furthermore, the reason we're even doing the back-up thing is to ensure that we get a lynch, even if everyone were to back off the Fuk? for some reason. But really, I don't see that anybody would back off of him or switch votes now, especially as how controlled this all is. And I know that Makaze is town, but I really don't like just how controlled it is. Yes, he's town, but he is not infallible. He was town last time, too, but he was still wrong with some of his guesses. And I'm not trying to blast him or anything, I was wrong in some of my guesses too. Everybody is wrong sometimes, and following Makaze simply because at the very least, we know he's not lying is still a dangerous way to play.

Makaze, I know you say your master plan will be revealed at the end of the day. I really hope so, because the more I think about it, the less I understand it and the more risky it seems.

Now then, I also really am getting warning bells in regards to Mish. I know, she assured us that she's a boring townie this time, but there's still something really bothering me. I re-read the thread, and I'm gonna try to organize my thoughts by writing things down. Maybe I'll have a breakthrough.

She pegs hyuge, Beau, and al as Mafia, and then unnvotes Beau in the same post. If she thinks Beau is Mafia, why unvote? She says it's to support the plan to vote off inactives, but then doesn't vote. This makes no sense.

When asked why she believes those three to be Mafia, she pretty much says it's because they both have been mafia in previous games and are kinda working that way, and because she doesn't know al. Then she says she wants to vote Spike, but doesn't see the point in adding to his vote number. Then she votes for him in her next post.

The wording here is standing out to me. She's "against voting for The Fuk?". It's not just that she'd rather vote for Spike, she's against the vote. Based on least amount of post count. When it's explained that we're also looking for content and contribution instead of just the number, she practically disregards the notion.

Just for clarification, these were the posts made by either party at that point in time.

The Fuk?: #1, #2, #3, #4.

Spike: #1, #2, #3.

I don't know about you guys, but I would definitely say that there was more content in Spike's 3 posts than in The Fuk?'s 4 posts. But even though she says she still wants to vote for Spike, she's willing to consolidate.

And here she says that she'll keep her vote- carrying The Fuk? past a soft-lynch- on the person she would actually like too see lynched. In literally her last post before this, she said she didn't want to vote for him but was only gonna help consolidate. When Makaze points this out, along with the fact that The Fuk was already at soft lynch, she addresses the lynch issue, but doesn't even mention her quick switch from "only consolidating" to "wanting him dead."

The whole thing about the 'damage being done' also sets me on edge. What damage? The damage of voting past soft lynch is the fact that anyone can jump on it and it'll be too late. That damage is easily reversed, and doesn't have to be "already done." If she's talking about the damage to her voting record... what does she know that we don't? Is she voting for a townie, and "the damage" is the fact that he will be revealed a townie and she's on the ballot past a soft lynch? Or is she voting for a Mafiosa to appear helpful to the town, and "the damage" is that she's already on the ballot, and unvoting would be suspicious now?

Finally, this piece is again, bugging me. Both Spike and Mish voted for Beau over Calxiyn, when Cal has been at least a little suspicious (the whole thing with al, if anyone doesn't remember) while Beau is pretty likely to be town. I mean, Spike's reasoning made sense, I guess. The point is, after all, to vote out the inactive, and Cal has been more active than Beau. But the way Mish just sort of follows has got me thinking.

There's two possibilities that explain all this. Well, three, I guess. Here they are:

1: Mish is Mafia and is shadowing Spike. This can explain why at first, Mish seemed to be gunning for Spike, but then switched targets with little reasoning when it wasn't working, and is now using Spike as a cover to push her own agenda. It also explains all the inconsistencies in Mish's posts, and her slight inclination to dodge a question now and then.

2: Mish and Spike are both Mafia. This can explain why Mish would jump off Spike after being "suspicious," if Mish was trying to set it up to look like she and Spike didn't like each other to cover future tracks should either of them be discovered, and it could also explain why now Mish is following Spike's lead. This one is less likely than the first, however, if you take into account the fact that Mish was Mafia last time and would know how dangerous it would be to appear too close to another Mafioso.

3: They're both just townies. Actually, this one is probably the most likely of the three, now that I think about it. Day 1 is always full of accusations, votes, unvotes, revotes, theories, and conspiracies (in fact, my tl;dr post here would probs fall under conspiracies anyway XD) and with no info to go on, everybody is following somebody. And hey, maybe Mish really is just voting for Beau for the same reasons and didn't want to type it all out.

OK, just read the following:

Dude, I'm tired. And I've been working a lot. And I have life stuff. And I'm neck-deep in paperwork sometimes. And I get stressed. And I'm trying to wean myself off of my coffee addiction. XD And I don't have the time or the brain power to try and figure out your riddles! I assume this is part of the aforementioned master plan that will all become clear after the end of the day?

 

You needn't worry your head about it.

Unless you have a better plan to get information that you can also enact in the next two hours.

 

Nah, I don't have a different plan... lol, I guess I just hate not knowing things and not being able to figure them out. XD

 

About @The Fuk?: If he changes his vote, he will be acting purely in self-interest and it will be an unmistakably anti-town move. If he manages to save himself with it today, then he will lose all credibility and will get the noose tomorrow. The only reason he could possibly have to do that is if he is mafia and needs to survive for his team to win. Better to take the hit for the team if he is town. In other words, if he does anything to save himself now, it's a fool's errand and will pretty much confirm his role.

 

Well really, he doesn't have to worry at all, now that you've announced you intend to change your vote. He's safe now.