Mafia [Mafia] Miami Haze ~ GAME OVER (MAFIA WINS)

Fair enough. I honestly don't think The Fuk? is mafia. I think it's just Makaze getting too excited again, but I feel like tomorrow will go one of two ways: everyone will inevitably end up voting for TF? because Mak will pressure them to prevent a no lynch, or things will continue to be stagnant and jumbled into a no lynch.

Do you have any ideas as to whom you might be able to trust as town and who else is untrustworthy?

 

So I just want to say, a lot of people are avoiding voting because they're not certain about TF?. So I'll be honest, I'm not certain of the Fuk?'s alignment. I think he could be Mafia, but he could also very well be town. But we can't have a no-lynch. His absence and inability to defend himself is pitiable, but since he's got more strikes against him than we've found for anyone else, and though we're all trying to find other suspects, no one is coming up with anything because so few of us are participating. I understand people being busy, and I understand that this is just a game. But it feels like, today especially, we've only got five or six people even here. And with so few of us talking, we're all just running around in circles.

Now we really are less than 24 hours away from deadline, and we don't even have a soft lynch. Those of us who are here need to agree on a suspect and at least put him into soft-lynch territory. If we decide not to lynch TF?, then I think we should choose one of the "quiet" people and lynch them. I understand we can't policy lynch all the quiet ones, but now when it's obvious TF?'s vote isn't getting a lot of backing, maybe we can use this time to at least "scare" the others into posting more frequently.

And although I'm willing to go this route, I think we would get more info from lynching TF? than we would from a silent one... But guys, seriously, step it up! >:(

Was that too mean? I'm sorry if that was too mean. XD[DOUBLEPOST=1409883609][/DOUBLEPOST]Sorry, one of my sentences above sort of got cut short. XD I'm a bit distracted with other life stuff atm, so my writing suffers. XD

"His absence and inability to defend himself is pitiable, but since he's got more strikes against him than we've found for anyone else, and though we're all trying to find other suspects, no one is coming up with anything because so few of us are participating, I think we should move forward with this."

 

Just to be clear, I'm not against voting for TF?, I'm just trying to incite conversation in those that are rather inactive so that we can find other possible suspects. At this rate, we stand no chance against mafia. We've already lost four people and are likely about to lose another two townies and with zero leads. I am more than willing to vote TF? tomorrow just so that we don't end up with a no lynch, but for now, I want to keep putting the pressure on those that are saying nothing.

__// Unvote: TwilightBlader
__// Vote: Bite the Dust

@Bite the Dust, same questions to you as were asked to everyone else.

 

So after reading though everything said in Day 3, I'm not all to sure on who to vote for. I mean I could vote for TF for the sake that we don't end up with a no lynch, but that's all I would voting for.

 

I was almost going to vote for Moksha, but realized just now that he's a replacement lol

 

So then, @Hayabusa , who do you think we should vote for instead? Does anyone seem suspicious? Why does Moksha's status as a replacement affect your decision to vote?

 

I think we are in a special kind of pickle. If The Fuk? is mafia and my theory is correct, it looks like he took this risk knowing that it could backfire. He and the rest of his team are avoiding the subject altogether to avoid giving away more info away in the case of his lynch. I believe it was a suicidal gamble. Had he succeeded in killing me, he would be in the same situation he is in right now, but would look even worse.

We can discern several things from his behavior. He doesn't care if he dies. He doesn't care if he helps town. He doesn't care to answer questions. He doesn't care to ask questions. He doesn't care if he is honest. He doesn't care if people call him out for being dishonest.

As far as we know, the only thing he cares to do is see me dead.

If I were mafia with him, I would not defend him. He is a lost cause. No reason other mafia should go down with him.

Here's something interesting. Allow me to take myself out of the situation and treat myself as any other player.

If your reasoning has value, then the same could be said of Makaze. No one has come to their defense. Nearly everyone finds them at least a little suspicious. They faced wagons twice and even faced a soft-lynch without a fuss. If they were Mafia, wouldn't someone come to their defense? Wouldn't we see fewer votes for them?

The Fuk? has had a lot of people say they don't find him suspicious. He has had two votes at most throughout the game. Only one player finds them really suspicious.

Why did his case stand out over Makaze's to you?

 

Only cause I thought "hey, how come this person is barely posting?" That's all that seemed suspicious to me. Everyone else, I'm honestly still trying to figure out.

 

Oh, myyy... Getting prodded like this again, makes me wish I had a socket for every plug and a plug for every socket. Well then, to answer the booty call:

I have no thoughts on who I think is definitively Town because no one is above suspicion right now. At least, not to me, anyways. As for The Fuk?, well, not too much I can say other than I suspect him just as much as I suspect everyone else. However, if he does get lynched and he ends up being Town, I'll be that much more suspicious of all of the people who are leading the group right now. Lastly, I'm not going to tell you that I am not suspicious, you can form your own opinion of me without me spoon feeding you info about me. However, my silence really shouldn't be a reason to suspect someone of being with the opposite faction. Just saying.

Well, anybutt, that's what I've got to say. So please, keep prodding all up inside of me. Just like that~♥

 

Okay, so here's where I currently stand. The Fuk does seem a little suspicious in his single mindedness against Makaze BUT check his posts, Makaze is literally the only person he has voiced suspicions about. Remember, the whole thing about the only reason we can think they killed Tale? To deprive us of information? We might not be gaining much at all from The Fuk?. Well let's see, if he's Mafia, yay, and Makaze suddenly seems a lot more town also we check who defended him; If he's Town then Makaze looks more guilty (though that's not as certain as town go blindly and Makaze is the sort of person to attract people who want to off him) and also we look at all the people who pushed for his death. Actually, we might gain some information. HOWEVER I still don't really want to off him until he's voiced his suspicions of other people but that's looking more unlikely now.

Makaze is still another valid option, as knowing his alignment will give us lots of information to use to make much more informed choices in the coming days regardless of what he turns out to be. I do think currently he is town though, so if people would rather not lynch him today, I will follow that.

I'm still waiting on a response from What? too.

 

First week of school is extremely hectic, I apologize.

Since I am currently running on three hours of sleep and have more important work to finish, I will attempt to keep this as brief as possible and (hopefully) attempt to expand upon it if time permits before the day's deadline. A preemptive warning that if my lack of activity persists from this point I shall most likely drop out as reluctant as I am to bother Nova about another instance of it, but keep in mind.

The Fuk has been a high read on my list consistently since the first day, and although his position has shifted occasionally it has certainly not changed the fact that he continues to be suspicious. Although it is acceptable that his actions are made in a passive manner, the quantity and erratic nature of both replies and activity appear to possess a distinctively subversive and quiet nature that has personally given a feeling of being uncharacteristic for somebody who is at least vanilla town. His largest discussion in the thread has involved targeting Makaze and continuing to be relatively erratic in his activity before and after, and to this point he continues to vote Makaze. He has been asocial in terms of his reasoning behind certain other votes as well.

Now, in retrospect of taking the time to think on it, it serves to be an interesting case. Does The Fuk know some information on Makaze that is the basis of pushing for him this hard? My understanding of the Tracker is that it does not discriminate on roles and simply acknowledges if someone took a night action, yes? Alternatively, building a case on a key component could be a necessary decapitation strike.

The most concerning reasoning serves to be the fact that his last defense felt a bit glossy in regards to acknowledging the points.

For the time being,

Vote: The Fuk?

On the basis of the above, and other points brought up in my earlier points, and so we can encourage avoiding a no-lynch.

 

__// Unvote: Bite the Dust
__// Vote: The Fuk?

 

Thanks for posting @What? I know the feeling with everything being hectic. That said, any post you can manage will be appreciated, they don't have to all be long and detailed.

And everyone, I believe we currently have 4 votes for The Fuk?, one away from a soft lynch. So after the next vote for him, nobody else vote for him!! I want to make the most of all our time and if possible give The Fuk the maximum time to respond and voice his thoughts/suspicions.[DOUBLEPOST=1409939927][/DOUBLEPOST]Guys, we have 3 hours left, where is everyone??

 

@Midnight, I understand your reluctance to vote for the Fuk? But we can't have a no-lynch, and you're right we need one more vote to get a soft lynch. Please, could you vote? Not many people are participating today, and some who are seem to be refusing to vote. The deadline is fast approaching. We're running out of time.

Everybody else, anyone who didn't vote, please please please try to participate more tomorrow! And again, I understand people being really busy. Like, I can understand What?'s concerns and his absence. But he's at least trying when he can be here! Some of you guys aren't doing anything at all! I feel like we got very little out of today. Hopefully tomorrow will be better.

 

Apologies, I wasn't going to let it fall to a no lynch. Same as last time, I knew I'd be online right up to deadline so I was kinda just waiting to see if anything would happen. Like last time everyone suddenly appeared at once and turned it into a hard lynch, I was wanting to give people as much time as possible so I didn't want to push it towards a hard lynch. I knew I'd be on in time for if nobody did vote, then I could still secure the lynch. Sorry for worrying you.

Vote: The Fuk?

 

@Midnight Star , I see now. lol, sorry for doubting you. And sorry I didn't tag you right. XD I'm so used to calling you Midnight that I completely forgot to add the "Star." XD

I see a few others viewing the thread now. What are your thoughts about what's been going down?

 

Please explain how I am supposed to give a proper defense. The only thing I can do to prove my allegiance is to lynch a Mafia member. A town member trying to prove his innocence and a Mafia member trying to hide his identity will look exactly the same.

I truly believe people here are grasping at straws. They're trying to lynch me because they need someone to lynch to keep the game moving. I just happen to be lucky contestant number three. It looks like I'm going down the same way Krowley and Rainshine did. The only difference is that I tried to start a movement based on a belief I had. If you want to think of that as suspicious behavior, that's fine. I'm not doing anything that Makaze or What? haven't done.


People keep asking me for my opinion about how I feel about other players like I haven't given it any thought. So here's the deal. The reason I am still trying to lynch Makaze is because I still believe he is the person is most likely to be a Mafia member. What? has been saying I was Mafia for a long time. I'm sticking with my gut about Makaze the same way What? has stuck to his by trying to start a movement against me earlier in this game.

 

@The Fuk? I'm sorry, I actually don't know at this point and I know what you mean, I think you might be right here. I think if you turn out to be town, both What? and Makaze will come under suspicion tomorrow.

Though, if it's okay, may I ask you who you think are the most likely to be Town? We know who you think are Mafia, but who do yo think we can trust?

 

The Fuk?, I'm afraid you're right. We need to keep the game moving and through happenstance, you're the unlucky one. I don't think you really seem like a Mafiosa either... it's just this time crunch and a lack of participation. Because, you're also right that a town member trying to prove his innocence and a Mafia member trying to hide his identity will look exactly the same. If you're town, than I truly am sorry.

@Cat~ and @Bite the Dust , I saw you viewing the thread twenty minutes ago and now you're gone. Have you nothing to say?

 

We don't lie low when we have no info. We don't wait for non-straws to fall out of the sky. We grasp those straws. We see how people react to your grasping. Pull everyone into the drama. Get content. Now you have ropes.

Grasp the ropes you revealed.

That goes for @Bite the Dust as well. And anyone else who wants to play for their own personal team. We will lose without your active help at digging things up that are not already in the light.

I have trouble believing you are truly this dense, so we'll see how you flip.