Mafia [Mafia] Miami Haze ~ GAME OVER (MAFIA WINS)

Like hyuge said, it's important to have a mind of your own. What if mafia came on and told you to vote now?

 

Yeah, what if Makaze came on and told you to vote right now?

 

Haha, very funny.

 

You say that like it's a joke...

 

I'm confused as to why everyone all of a sudden jumped on Krowley.

 

He was easily the next most suspicious person (as far as I can tell) and everyone thought they had no time to build a case on anyone else.

 

This is a good point, because I didn't see the "Deadline approaching" thing (it's alright we all make mistakes)

Anyway, @TwilightBlader , you jumped in with the "cool kids" during that... while we have 24 hours left, I want to hear a little more from you... particularly your thoughts on this game.

unvote: Beau

 

Vote: Krowley

 

Still on the fence of vote-changing since I am still curious about The Fuk's thoughts on the more vocal members but at this rate it may be necessary due to the deadline. At least we have a soft-lynch. Let us hope Krowley can finally come to defend himself.

The overall suspicion. As the others have said before, he has generally been treading away from participating in discussions, has only consistently posted jokes, and has a bit of a defeatist nature of not making much of an effort to defend himself. Besides that, his activity has been questionable from time to time. I agree with the others that he is definitely one of the more suspicious characters here, but his potential reply will serve to be a clincher.

Also equally important is the need to get a lynch by the end of the day. As we all know, no lynch is not the best strategy to go ahead with, and Krowley has been found suspicious by a large proportion of us so far. Wagons also help identifying Town and Mafia later on as a handful of people discussed earlier.

 

I was just wondering if I should vote now, not necessarily for Krowley, because everyone else seemed to be voting. But I guess there's still time before the day is over.

 

Were you going to vote for a person without building a case against them? Why vote by yourself, now or later?[DOUBLEPOST=1408586133][/DOUBLEPOST]Better question: How will voting by itself help town?

 

Well, there's one or two people I find suspicious and I was wondering if I should vote now because I should that would mean I would have to decide who I think is more suspicious before the deadline came up. I have trouble making decisions sometimes (my mom thinks have have some sort of issue which I do not)

Anyway, the point was have to figure out who to vote for so I won't accidentally not vote and miss the deadline. Gosh I made that way more confusing than it needed to be. Sorry.

 

Well, as promised, I've been heartily ashamed of myself. XD Again, sorry I was so confusing. It was mainly because I was confused. XD

Anyway, I am now going to unvote: default. In my opinion, he is still the most suspicious, but you guys were right; sitting on that vote gets us nowhere. But I'm not going to vote for Krowley yet, in an effort to give him a chance to defend himself before a hard-lynch, if that makes sense.

 

You can't lynch your target by yourself. You're treating it as a solo thing, like you need to decide what you are going to do and what the rest of us do doesn't matter. You can't get anything done thinking like that.

 

To be honest, I'm kind of worried about the bandwagon that's formed on voting against Krowley.

 

I am as well, which is why I have yet to join up on said bandwagon. And it's also why I'm asking TB to respond to me.

Which he hasn't.

And I see you looking at the thread so talk.

 

Well if a large group of people are against voting for Krowley then we better discuss it otherwise Krowley will be voted off anyways. I am talking real discussion, like I understand when people vote for someone you think shouldn't get voted off and you have that gut feeling against it. However a gut feeling alone in this case won't really cut it. We need more than that.

 

I have not voted for him but at this stage in the game, it is most likely to be for gut feeling. Day one is one of the hardest days because we are just settling in. There is no pattern to killings yet that we can observe. It's also easier for mafia to hide because there's more people to hide behind. Putting vote pressure on people the first day isn't as effective as it would be on day five.

So why did you vote for Krowley exactly? If it's because of that time crunch why have you yet to unvote him?

 

To throw in my lot on the whole Krowley issue, I would like to point out that he hasn't exactly defended himself yet. This is probably time constraint based, but it would be nice to hear what he has to say. Frankly, we are kind of going on some vague suspicion here, but I feel as if it would be good to hear a response. We need SOMETHING to go on, and we're not being provided with too much else other than the Default and Beau cases. I'd rather not wind up lynching Krowley at the moment (Though I am still going through my vote for him) because it's an almost totally ignorant vote with no reaction from him, so we're almost blind here. As it stands, I fail to see any other option as No Lynch isn't a choice we want to take right now. I agree with Princess that we want more than we have right now, but nothing appears to be being put forward from the lyncher or the lynchee sides that are more conclusive either way.

 

Time is going to be key. We find ourselves pressed for time due to Thursday being the final metaday. Krowley has a set amount of time left to defend himself before the hammer either automatically strikes or the last few people hammer with their final votes. If he defends himself successfully and the wagon breaks loose I feel that we either need to latch on to a final culprit before the day ends or else risk No Lynch. In a way I feel that the time period has made it harder for a defense to come up, since one that plants doubt will serve to either continue with us lynching him regardless (due to the unsavoury alternative) or scatter us to other people (or all focus on a hastily-decided final culprit). I still feel Krowley needs to speak up first. But our prospects seem as if we have already fallen into a time management trap, though it is again only the first day and understandably hard and occasionally confusing to get things out.

If we want to have backup cases to pursue then we should take some time to discuss them in the time we are taking to talk about Re: Krowley Not Replying Yet simultaneously. Tackle multiple ideas at once. Though for the sake of not causing fragmentation among us it depends on whether or not we wish to pursue backup cases alongside. A few steps have been built for a number of cases, like Marushi and Cstar have pointed out, but solidarity in not achieving a No Lynch may be more important regardless.