Mafia [MAFIA] [GAME OVER, TOWN VICTORY] The Classic Setup: Game 1

It wasn't meant to come across that way at all, it was just a suggestion since people are still suspicious of me and it's pretty likely that I'll be lynched at the end of this day phase no matter what.
As for putting heat, it's time for people to STOP VOTING FOR ME AT THIS MOMENT since I'm at three votes already and it only takes five for the hard lynch.

If you have specific questions to direct to me, send them my way because I'm here and I'll answer whatever you pose to me. If not, then I'll just put my opinion out there that I believe you may be a mafia member with Mixt, Marushi. I mean, that last second vote swap was pretty out of nowhere. If we assume you're on the same "scumteam," as you put it, it would make sense for you to bandwagon with him in that regard to keep heat on me and away from other potential suspects such as yourselves.

 

So Cal, assuming you're a Townie, what do you think about Midnight? You have been one of her biggest accusers in this game; do you still think she's Mafia? Why or why not?

Agreed, nobody else vote. We really don't want to end this day-phase early.

Cat, since you're willing to answer questions, here's one:

If you were to guess, who would you put on this scum-team with me and Mixt, and why?

 

The reason why is because Mixt offered his vote as if it didn't particularly matter. Your vote is your lifeline in this game, and he swapped his vote for you, not for himself

I could read this as you both being scum together, but the fact that his vote was thrown that way really confuses me. I don't look at a vote as something you can just hand out for a switch.

In the case of Midnight, it reminds me of a previous game where a mafia member intentionally used statistics and data and just threw out numbers to get posts out there. But it feels different to me because she seems to be putting in more emotional input into her posts than that particular mafia member who felt detached. But my opinion is pretty confused about her even with all you brought up. It's not that I don't have any impressions of Midnight at all it's just that I don't particularly get an opinion of her either way because charts feel like a very detached form of playing with the town, but she has been trying to keep people from bringing up cop speculations which is a very harmful thing for the town to do.

I might need to go back and do a mass re-read of all her posts and see if it sways my opinion in either direction.

 

Hmm. If I'm honest, I haven't really seen any behavior from anyone to say "#IGuessImWithHer" or anything.

The more people bring up Midnight the more inclined I am to try and add her to my suspect list since some good points are being brought up about her "looking like town without doing a whole lot," but given the contents of this post of yours I'm hesitant to say that you'd be on the same mafia team. Specifically, this is what throws me off:

Having also played some games with Midnight in the past, I do see your points about the logs and her opinions feeling hollow and indecisive. But why would you bring that up if you're on the same mafia team? I could see mafia bandwagoning on a vote against a fellow member when push comes to shove to protect the other two remaining identities, but to call her out at the start of the day in this fashion leads me to believe you're on opposite sides. I could see Mixt and Midnight, or you and Mixt, but not the three of you together.


I'm still a bit suspicious of Cal, but I'm also starting to wonder about Judge and Cstar. Can't say for certain who I'd see as your potential third, but I'd like to see how they continue to act and decide whether I see any of them as the third...

 

Cstar, that is a very good point you bring up about Mixt. I hadn't noticed that, thank you. And your notes on Midnight are also well thought out, and those are good points as well.

In my opinion, emotional attachment can be faked, but Midnight's appearing to have it is a good thing to keep in mind about her alignment. Although I personally believe it to be unlikely, it's possible that Midnight is just a townie who's a bit stressed about maybe other things going on in her life. Good notes, Cstar.

@Mixt , why did you vote for Tale and bring him to a tie? At the time, you told me that it was to 'give me the chance to vote for him if I wanted to,' but really, that ended up putting me in the spotlight, as well as Cat and Calxiyn. Not to say that I don't want to be in the spotlight (I love being the center of attention XD Even though I also kinda hate it lol) but really, you placed me in a very bad spot, where my voting for either of them would potentially leave me in the hot-seat. I went with Tale, who we know now is Town, and so I'm made out to be more suspicious because of this. If I went with Cat, I wonder, would she also have been town? Was this rigged? Was it a set-up to put me in the position as tie-breaker and therefore, executioner? So many questions... I take back what I said about thinking you're likely town. I can't say that this is a tell, and I can't say you conclusively are likely to be Mafia now, but you are definitely on my watch list now.

If Cat is Mafia, I still don't think Mixt is. And if Mixt is Mafia, I still don't think Cat is. Now, for me, neither of them are in the clear until the other's alignment is confirmed.

Thank you for the response, those are good points. Next question:

You say here you're starting to wonder about Judge. What, in your opinion, makes him suspicious? Or more specifically, what is making you start to wonder about Judge?

 

Well, as of now Judge has the lowest post count in the thread out of any active members (he's posted 11 times, only passing 61, burnitup, and Krowley, who are all either dead or have been replaced). It's awfully suspicious of him not to post very much aside from "well this person took the words out of my mouth" and questioning tale on the one point of not retracting his vote for me. iirc he also hasn't said anything about being too busy to post, and he's been stalking the thread out to at least observe our posts.

I'd like to put some pressure on him to pitch in to the current discussions. With that in mind, I'll go ahead and ##Vote: Judge Sunrose

 

Good points. I also have noticed Judge being online for quite awhile and not posting, and I was wondering if anyone else would catch on. (or if I'm just too involved in this game, lol)

I'll go ahead and bite.

##Unvote: Cat
##Vote: Judge Sunrose

@Judge Sunrose , if you could please address the accusations made towards you. Why have you been so quiet, and why have you been after Tale, a confirmed Townie, for so long?

 

With Tale dead and confirmed my town that gets rid of my suspicions of him but mine for Cat~ still stand. Though, I won't place a vote on her this early since she already has two votes on her.

I haven't been looking at Midnight for the last few days but it does seem like she's putting more into the quieter member like me, cstar, and maybe Tale, but not Mixt or Judge who have also been a bit on the quiet side. And while we're on the topic of this still, she voiced suspicion on both Cat~ and Cal but only made a log for Cat~.

Also, I regret not posting much and when I do I don't have a whole lot to add. It's a bad habit I've had in every mafia game, though I've only been in two so I apologize for that >-<

I'm gonna try and read through everything and make another post soon but omg you guys post so fast lol.

 

lol, yeah, I do post pretty fast. XD It's because I have limited time to be here, and want to get as much done as I can while I'm here. lol, I'm currently filling out job applications while I'm watching the thread. XD

As for not having a lot to add, it's understandable to feel that way. Like I've been trying to encourage people to do, a good idea is to try and decide what about a person makes you suspicious of them. Even if everyone else seems to have said everything already, you might actually catch something important. Like, for example, I believe that Mixt could have caught something important about Cat's vote last night, that might help us determine if Cat is mafia. But at the same time, Cstar could have caught something important as well in regards to Mixt's vote last night, which could help us not only potentially clear Cat, but also maybe catch Mixt as a Mafioso.

You never know how important one of your leads might be, so don't be afraid to take a risk and put yourself out there. Even if you're wrong, every post helps.[DOUBLEPOST=1467924116][/DOUBLEPOST]I just would like to note that @Judge Sunrose was online for awhile again recently, and is now gone again without having posted.

 

I agree that Midnight seems indecisive, but it could be similar to be where I've been looking at every sides so it seems contradictory.

I believe Midnight is Mafia IF Cat is not. I say this because I already have my top Mafia reads, and Midnight just isn't high priority yet. If we lynch a town member today that is on my pervious list and they are town then she simply moves up.

 

Alright, so I understand you not wanting to lynch Midnight when you believe Cat is more suspicious. But can you provide reasoning for why you think that Cat and Midnight aren't likely to be on the same team? You say Midnight could be Mafia if Cat is not. What leads you to believe they're working against each other?[DOUBLEPOST=1467925994][/DOUBLEPOST]Also, Cal, you say that you believe Midnight could just be looking at things from all sides, like you have, which might explain why she seems indecisive. However, I don't think that's the case. You have been posting hunches, theories, and strong opinions since day 1, and have spearheaded high-profile cases as well. Midnight, however, has not. As far as theories and opinions, I can't remember her making a single post wherein she takes a decided stance against or for someone else. Looking at things from every angle is one thing, repeatedly stating that you're not sure at all is another.

At least when you have two different theories, you post them both, which is why you seem so contradictory sometimes. Midnight doesn't post almost any theories, she just says that she 'sees how it could go both ways.'

Just something worthy of note.

 

Not.

So.

Fast.​

This charade has been going on for too long. Keep in mind that some things are not what they appear to be. Do you guys think only the Mafia benefits from not drawing too much attention? The Tale vote was nothing but a wild guess, I'll give you that much. Sure, he flipped Town in the end, but that was an inevitable risk, and a calculated one at that. Good thing the Mafia had a hand in tipping the scales in my favor, inadvertedly.

Speaking of the devil(s), a little bird tells me you've been up to no good, @Mixt . Miraculously saving someone at the last minute, only to try and dispose of them the next day by using everyone's heightened suspicions. And, between you and me, we both know for a fact that this particular feline is innocent, don't we? Oh no, not on my watch you won't. The jig is up, Mixt! Or should I say M A F I O S O #1 . Any last words, before I arrest you?

 

If you're implying what I believe you're implying, I'm glad to know that we have a confirmed mafioso.

I'd also like to know who you have confirmed roles for besides Mixt and myself. You should have recieved a random town name in the first night.

 

...I think it's pretty clear what Judge is saying. Alright then.

Cat and Judge Sunrose are clear.

Rethinking my theories.

I'm still on Midnight, unless she's been cleared too, and with Cat cleared, I think that she should be our lynchee tonight. Either her or Calxiyn, but let's not vote just yet. Let's keep talking and examining other people.

##Unvote: Judge Sunrose[DOUBLEPOST=1467928729][/DOUBLEPOST]Crap, sorry, I'm super stupid. XD I think we should vote for Mixt because obviously we should vote for Mixt. XD I... My only excuse is I was distracted because my husband is watching 3rd Rock From the Sun and it's funny. XD We can save Midnight and Cal for tomorrow. XD

 

I'll just go ahead and ##Unvote: Judge Sunrose


Let's also leave the voting for Mixt until later. No need to get people voting and unintentionally hit hard lynch a day early. We have the confirmation, after all.

 

Agreed. Why I didn't place my vote.

And now I absolutely have to go for a few hours. I was mainly waiting around to see Judge's response to the accusations, because I didn't want to leave a vote on him when I couldn't take it back at a moment's notice if need be. XD

Also, since Judge admitted it himself, I can explain why I voted for Tale, and hopefully that will make more sense and people won't be as suspicious of me for it.

I had theorized to myself that a possible explanation for Blaine and Burnitup's 'buddying' was that one of them was the cop and had investigated the other. Since the next day, Judge started really coming down on Tale, I thought that he might have investigated him and found out he was a Mafioso. I didn't think that this condemned Tale, but I thought he was suspicious. So when it came down to me voting either for Cat or for Tale, not only did I think Cat might be the Cop, but I also had Judge Sunrose giving out reasons as to why I should vote for Tale instead, and so I decided to risk it and vote for Tale, hoping against hope that I was either saving the Cop or listening to him. And that is why I voted for Tale, so I hope that clears that up.

And as for why I still came down hard on you two today, well, your behavior could have been explained by one of you being the cop, which is why I made it clear that I found Mid to be more suspicious just in case, but you have to admit that Mafia buddies is another reasonable explanation, and with Tale's confirmed innocence, I just... I thought it made you guys lean towards Mafia. XD Though I did still try to make it clear that Mid was my top choice, again, just in case. XD[DOUBLEPOST=1467938939][/DOUBLEPOST]@cstar @Ghost @Midnight Star @Calxiyn @Mish

Come on, guys. We can't just let this Day Phase fall silent. We have two more days, and with the knowledge bomb that was just dropped on us, we need discussion, and even though I haven't been able to watch the thread the way I would like, I have seen some of you online the few times I'm able to check up on things on my phone. This is really suspicious that none of you are posting. Please join in this conversation.

I would like all of you to try and come up with two members of the six remaining unconfirmed players (and yes, that does include me before anyone asks) that are potential teammates of Mixt. I now have time, so I'm going to go through the thread and do the same myself. I want all of you to at least try to come up with Two Members that you think are the most likely people to be on the same team with Mixt. If you're 'not sure' or 'undecided,' that's okay. This is speculation. Just give me at least two names, please.

 

I was actually trying to type up a post before you said this lol. I was planning on addressing suspicions on Mixt and see what else I could find of Midnight but since Mixt is confirmed I don't have to worry about him right now.

Anyway back to what I was saying before, It might be minor, but I talked about how Midnight voiced her suspicions on both Cal and Cat while only making a chart for cat. Maybe it's because they are actually working together? It might be kind of a stretch but that's about what I've come up with there.

Also, I haven't read that much into Mish's post because I've been focusing on other people instead nut today he's only seemed to mention the cop most of the time so im not really sure what the make of that.

Maybe Cal or Midnight would my top 2. I could probably substitute one with cstar since im not really sure where she stands. I'm still with the idea that Marushi.

 

Although I agree that Midnight's logs might be fixed, I would like to point out that she has given a reason for doing Cat's logs and not Cal's. She stated a few different times that she was only doing logs on quiet members, and at that time, Cat hadn't posted much. Whereas Cal has been active and posting long posts since day 1, and Midnight therefore didn't focus on her. But I do think that the logs are probably fixed.

And you realize that for you scum-teams, you mentioned all five of the choices available to you? You mention that you haven't looked into Mish, but you don't know what to make of Mish's cop-speak, Calxiyn or Midnight as your top two, but that you could replace one with Cstar, and then that you still have an idea about me. That's everyone. I suppose that you did admit that Cal and Mid were your top two, but that's still kind of a wishy-washy answer.

 

Oh, wow I wrote that sentence wrong. It was supposed to say "I'm still with my idea that Marushi is town. Also, I not saying that Mish is Mafia, I'm saying I'm not getting much of a read off him today. So, I was giving my thoughts on everyone, but not that they're all Mafia, that's not possible.

 

DAY 3 VOTE COUNT 2:​

Cat~ (1) - Mixt
Mixt (1) - cstar

Not voting (7) - Midnight Star, Cat~, Judge Sunrose, Ghost, Marushi, Calxiyn, Mish​

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to hammer.

Day 3 ends at 11 PM EST/EDT on July 9. There are approximately 2 days and 1 hours until phase end.