Mafia [MAFIA] [GAME OVER, TOWN VICTORY] The Classic Setup: Game 1

##Vote: Kingdom Hearts530

ohshi- now what

 

But since you revealed your plan of taking them off of the stand when you're done interrogating, you lost any kind of anxiety-inducing effect it may have had to create an environment where the person would have lost their cool or facade. Now that they know there is no danger they aren't going to have that effect on them anymore.

Does anyone else think it's suspicious that right after Midnight suggested putting someone up on the spotlight, Mish didn't even respond to her idea and instead just threw someone up? Mish could easily be Mafia trying to send a Random Townie up, due to the fact that as long as the person is Town and not Mafia, if we were persuaded by the Mafia or unconvinced Townies
to decide to lynch the person in question, The Town Member would be beneficial for the Mafia to get rid of.

Now, on that theory, Midnight could also be Mafia taking a leadership role, hinting to the other Mafia, in this case possibly Mish to follow her lead to put someone up on the stand, and later go back on not lynching them to get rid of a Town.

What do the rest of you think?

 

Wow your font/colour is kinda hard to read.

I'm actually really impressed at your analysis (well not that I might be mafia) but how much you managed to take from so little. I think you might be overthinking it a little but this kind of analysis is good on the whole and well done.

I think you're right about what I said taking all pressure off any votes. I didn't really think that through fully. I probably should have just voted for someone and stressed to not let it get to a hard lynch.

By the way HARD LYNCH = 7 VOTES. If someone takes it to a hard lynch I will accuse them of being mafia. We want to make the most out of our time.

 

lol no I'm afraid. Assuming you're trolling a bit there. Politics gets me riled up and I'll go on for a long time about it.

And as a result, I second this motion.

Probably a good idea. We've only got a limited time until the day ends so let's make the most of what we've got.

As to the first point, it's about seeing how they react in general. Whatever the reaction is will give us something and given that the person that Mish chose has spoken thus far it isn't an unreasonable choice as it's getting someone into the conversation.

Bear in mind that it was also explicitly stated that a proper lynch was not planned. What might be worth suspecting is a train building up because that's far beyond the requirements as it stands right now. I agree that it's a little odd that Mish didn't have much of a response, though I equally question the overall necessity of a full length reply when a simple follow up of the idea would suffice. Some people aren't as verbose as you or I. This could be the case with Mish, who so far hasn't posted enough for us to be able to judge her style.

And your concerns over Midnight while not necessarily groundless may also be an overreaction. Remember, this is Day One and someone who could be a Mafioso trying to guide the town could equally be a townie leading the charge against the Mafia and trying to energise the game. At the moment, I'm not overly concerned about Midnight because I don't think there's enough of a basis but it's always worth keeping such a suspicion in mind.


And would you look at that, Midnight posted midway through mine.

We concur on the hard lynch front. What I will say is this - Even though we don't intend a lynch to happen a post from someone new reacting to being voted up is still valuable. Even if there's not a massive threat behind it, there's still an element of fear that can be produced by being singled out. We won't get a hard knee jerk, but what we get could even be a little more valuable. It's important to understand the dispositions of people which we might get to understand.

With this in mind, I propose that ONE more person votes them up along with myself and Mish and that is it. I'd go so far as to say that Midnight, it should be you because this scheme was of your devising and it would be a little strange if you did not follow up on your own plan.

##Vote: Kingdom Hearts530

Also, I would like to remind you all of a stipulation in the rules. If we do not come to a conclusion on who to lynch ourselves, or we do not vote for a No Lynch, then one of us will be chosen randomly. Unless we decide not to lynch anyone, we need to carefully decide who it is we do choose. My personal recommendation would be anyone inactive before the end of the night, should they exist. Someone silent is infinitely less useful than someone vocal.

 

Agreed that you're reading too much into it Cal. But neat analysis in any case. I'm a person of few words lol.

The reason why I chose KH530, btw, is because out of Mak's list of players, she is the first one who hasn't posted anything yet.

@Kingdom Hearts530

 

That's a fair point, I was actually planning on doing that before Cal posted and distracted me.

##Kingdom Hearts530

I believe that makes 3 votes for her, 7 is a hard lynch and we don't want that. People should probably refrain from voting for her any more, at least until she's had chance to defend herself and even then we still don't really want a hard lynch.

I'm really liking the long analysis posts, you guys are awesome.

 

I agree with the logic of the choice, it's just a case of which quiet person to choose.

What I wanted to add in my last post but forgot to, @Makaze would you be so kind as to add a Hard Lynch threshold on the front page where we can easily see it? That would just make it a little easier for everyone to see what it is later one when there's few members.

And yes, no more votes.

 

What is your reasoning for voting in kingdom hearts530? I don't see a valid reason other than just voting for someone.

 

Be careful guys. The formula for a hard lynch is half the remaining players +1 and rounded up.
13/2 = 6.5
6.5+1 = 7.5
Rounds up to 8
We're giving ourselves lots of headroom now, but we wouldn't want to lynch someone prematurely in a later round.

Anyway, the only way not to lynch someone is the no lynch vote. And I would rather the lynch not just happen to the first person that got a spotlight on them. But we've still got time so I don't plan on rocking that boat anymore than I just did quite yet.

Midnight said it was to put heat on someone who hasn't talked yet. Not the best of reasons, but hey it's Day 1. There aren't good reasons for anyone yet.

 

That's silly though, it's just day 1 and over half the people haven't posted here. I've got my eye on you Midnight, you're def up to now good. Also Midnight just violated the 5 posts within a day rule.

 

That is a 5 post minimum per game day. So Midnight is in the clear but no one has violated it yet.

 

My reasoning was to create discussion relating to the game, which it has done. Specifically I wanted to see how someone would react under the spotlight. As long as she defends herself and doesn't do anything too suspicious, I'll probably unvote her but this is all giving us reference material to see how people behave that we will be able to refer back to later. I didn't want to waste the day on chat that was completely irrelevant to the game.

 

This game is set up so there is no soft lynch, unless we all vote for no lynch, somebody will die. This isn't a bad thing as such as lynching during the day is towns only chance to get mafia. As day one is really difficult, if nobody at the end of day one seems suspicious, I say we lynch the most inactive player. (This should hopefully act as motivation to get people to post)

 

Read.

Generally, I think it's actually a very good reason.

What Midnight is saying here makes an awful lot of sense. In a game like Mafia where it's about determining who or what people are depending on what they say and how they react, it's very important to see how people react to things like getting voted up. We've got a couple of days to build up a case on people so we had best make the most of that time. The fact is, Day One we have no information to use. That is why getting information is necessary.

And Mixt, thank you for the corrected timer. It takes 8 to kill which means that currently we satisfy 3/8. This is not a dangerous number by any stretch of the imagination. What this is, is pressure. And since the implication hasn't sunk in, once we've got pressure we can happily unvote as we see fit. Which I imagine we will unless they remain silent.

But I will reiterate this because it is important. If nobody is chosen, the lynch is random i.e. we cannot control who it will be. That is why I'd say on the 29th or even the 30th we should come to a consensus on who it is going to be. For now, there is little to be concerned about in terms of Midnight's behaviour. What she's doing has been done in games past and there's a decent reasoning behind it. And remember it was Mish who chose Kingdom Hearts530 on the basis of them being a quiet person on the list. This isn't a bad decision because they're quiet and we have to get people talking otherwise we have nothing to base a judgement off in the future.

What Midnight just said is very much what we need to do. The most inactive person must be the person we choose to lynch today, because it gets rid of an unknown factor.

We may also choose to pressure other inactives. That I will leave to everyone else's discretion, but right now information is power and we as the town need as much of it as possible.

And @Blaine , I'd change tack right about now. If you're going to insist on Midnight being suspicious based on her advocating pressure on another player and actively ignoring that she wasn't the person who placed the first vote, then one might be tempted to accuse you of being mafia yourself. You're trying rather hard to put Midnight down when she's not the only one who voted. What do you have to say about Mish? Or my own vote against the presently accused for that matter? Are you suspicious of us by the same token?

 

The Hard Lynch threshold is 13/2 + 1 OR rounded up, meaning 6.5 rounded up to... 7 votes to hammer.

Vote count will come tonight.

 

Your snark makes me suspect you. An attitude like that just shows you're defensive of what you're saying. Whether it's to defend your fellow Mafia or not remains to be seen.

Not that I disagree with you, Blaine's opinion on Mish would be more valuable then his thoughts on Midnight, who we've seemed to decide has a good reason for what she is doing, where as Mish, not so much.

@Krowley Lol. But seriously, Lime green is for Town, Bright red is for Mafia, White is player names, and Dark red is my normal text colour. For reference.

Right now, my suspect list is like this, for reasons previously stated and Al's commentary on Blaine:

1. Mish
2. Blaine
3. Midnight
4(1/2). Al