Look on the bright side

That's not hard at all for me to grasp. I may be related to my many cousins and uncles and aunts by blood, but for the most part, I barely know them, and even more important to consider than that, they've had little impact on my life. Robin Williams may never have known that I even existed (most probably didn't), but through his performances as an actor and generally respectable human being, he impacted me starting from a very young age. We were never in the same room or even building at the same time, yet he has made me smile and laugh and think deeply more than most of the friends I have on Facebook have done for me. Now he's gone, and to say that people should not mourn him (not saying that you're saying this) is to say that people have no right to feel sorrow for people if they were not directly friends or family, and I disagree wholeheartedly with that notion.

 

Like... I feel I can't say this without being insulting, so excuse me if it comes off that way.... Do you realize you dehumanized someone here? Like, you turned a human being's death into a vehicle for making a point about a video game because they're a celebrity you only knew via fiction.

Keep in mind, I love video games... BUT THESE ARE VIDEO GAMES.. and that's A HUMAN BEING DEAD.

You can easily look up to people you don't know. You can learn more about them, see their actions, judge them, and learn how they work and what they're style is. You can admire that. And then see that were a victim of a mental illness, died, and now they're lost to you. You'll never get to express your gratitude properly, nor will you get to see them develop any further. They no longer are capable of providing further inspiration. That's a lot to mourn to me.

 

Because it's totally fair to add the weight of the happiness of everyone you know onto the already crushing misery of depression. It's attitudes like this that push people further over the edge, the idea that people don't need support, that they should instead hold themselves in place by the potential GUILT of any sadness they might cause

Stop, stop STOP
This is a ****ING HUMAN BEING WHO HAS DIED
Stop digging this hole

 

You make a point, I was just saying that I wasn't trying to make a personal attack on anyone.

True, guess I'm just a bit desensitized to people making jokes about dead celebrities

I never said that people who are suicidal don't need support. I was just saying that the widespread tolerance of suicide isn't good on our society, because that'll result in more suicides. If there's one message that I think shouldn't be taught to people is that suicide is by any means okay.

Hey, it's just my opinion man. If this is upsetting you, you're free to disagree and not look at this thread.

 

You know what will cause more suicides? Intolerance of it. The stigmatization of it. People like you make it so difficult for a person to admit they have a problem

That's not even kind of a defense

 

That's a valid thought, and one that I share, but you don't discourage suicide by calling people who've commit it cowards or whatever; that honestly solves nothing and creates more issues. I think (not know, think) that the best solution is to continue trying to provide better and better support for people with these suicidal thoughts. If we don't do that, if we just say "well, he/she shouldn't killed himself/herself," what are we really doing to prevent it from happening more and more?

Like, think about this: how many people do you know who, at one point or more, have considered suicide? Being called a coward probably isn't what helped them (though I guess that depends on the individual,) but most people I think would agree that support rather than animosity is what got them away from those thoughts.

 

Chad, buddy, this doesn't seem like it's going anywhere good. And you've openly admitted where you may have been insensitive. Might I suggest requesting a lock?

 

Telling our kids that suicide is a valid life choice isn't gonna help either.

That's true. Animosity doesn't help.

I'm just afraid that more and more people who are contemplating suicide would go through with it under the pretense that they have a mental illness (whether they do or not) and think that they are beyond help. However, I'm glad that there are things like national suicide awareness week that informs young people that there are other options to killing oneself and that there is help out there.

lol Naw. I enjoy having an open discussion on things like this and getting different people's opinions and viewpoints that I may not have considered. I'm sure we're all mature enough for that, no?

 

Well good luck to ya