Birth by Sleep Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep Discussion

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  1. RoxaSora2010 Nulla è reale. Tutto è lecito.

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    While the fight, Roxas said "Tell me. Tell me why it chose you", so he wasn't talking about Axel, but about the Keyblade, but I don't know why he said that
     
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    I think that Roxas was talking about why he was chosen by terra,even though i beleive that since the keyblade choses it's master it blatently disobeyed his former master because riku was taken by the darkness and the keyblade chose sora.
     
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    But why he told about Terra? What does he center with Terra to say it?
     
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    He said:"Tell me why he picked you"
    You're right,i don't have almost any support to this.
    Only the conversation of Roxas and Axel after the fight.

    But anyway,i don't see how Roxas knew Terra or Ven.
     
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    Oooooh, now I think i've got it!!
    Roxas said that to Sora because he's interested to Kingdom Key, I don't know why, and his Keys are Oath and Oblivion, but he wanted for some reason Kingdom Key
     
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    The Oahtkepper and Oblivion Keyblades represent Sora connection to Riku and Kairi.
    And roxas can Wield Kingdom Key,he did in CoM.

    Anyway let's stop talking about this,and let's talk about BBS.
     
  7. RoxaSora2010 Nulla è reale. Tutto è lecito.

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    Hmm, I thought that all these theories will bring us to BBS :mellow:
     
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    Well i think that roxas actually had vens heart.When Ven lost his heart it was put into sora,his(i think) Brother.Once roxas was made he had nothing to make him.He needed some form of medium to stay alive and i think that it was vens heart.According to the ansem reports the heart contains memory and i think that once roxas went inside sora he began to remember vens past and who was chosen by who and was confused about what happened to the keyblades,that his brother got terra's keyblade.that is when he goes to the station and confronts sora.
     
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    I agree with this,except that Roxas knew that.
     
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    I think when he said "Why did he choose you?", he was talking about Xemnas. Cause Xemnas manipulated Sora to destroy the heartless so make Kingdom Hearts, instead of getting Roxas, who was in the Orginization to do it.
     
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    Maybe...i think nomura actually made it so that the confrontation on the station met alot of different things to confuse us even though it is actually all of those things!!!!
     
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    Well the part:"Roxas has Ven heart" is quite possible.
    If the heart contain the memories,how could the org members remember everything?
    I don't know but i think the memory is "stored" in the soul.
     
  13. RoxaSora2010 Nulla è reale. Tutto è lecito.

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    Hmm, so Ven is Sora's brother...and he has Ven's heart. In a pic we saw Ven on the beach near Destiny Islands, maybe because he can be near his heart and he can feel his heart, but he can't be seen from Sora
     
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    I hope so.
    Xemans used both,but he used more Sora than Roxas,well there's something in the Secret Report that explain this i think,i will search for it.

    If that's so,what did Ven lost?And was he erased?
     
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    hm....but it was said in COM that it was in stored in the heart.They also said that memories cannot be destroyed but buried so the memories of ven could've surfaced at that piont.
     
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    I will give the link to the Another Report if you want ot see it anyway:
    http://www.kingdomhearts3.net/another-report/

    And this should explain a bit,it was just after the text i put here earlier:
    "Furthermore, from the time that the two were both using the keyblade at the same time, the Organization itself was using Sora for their ultimate goal. Soon enough, each of the Organization's expectations differed. By changing Sora and Roxas's movements, eventually they became unable to use Sora for their true meaning. As a result, Sora became an obstacle to the movements of the organization itself and he had to be defeated. But even if Sora were to be defeated, you could say there are other things to think about in making that sacrifice. "

    If it was stored in the heart,how could org have acess to it?
    And i just thought about something:If the memory is stored in the soul,that means Sora didn't lost his while becoming a heartless since he remembers everything and Roxas don't,and then,Roxas shouldn't have one.

    But he has a soul,since he remembers evreything,i think the fact that Roxas has his own soul was why he had his own "heart".
    Probably wrong.

    And there's something you should see in the Another report,the page 56 has a"story" of Axel and Roxas,after CoM.
     
  17. daxma Hei Long: Unrivalled under the Heavens

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    Your after giving me a flash.I think your right but i need to think first.There are some holes in this theory but theres a chance it could work.
     
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    I could actually work it into my previous theory but i need to think about a fatal flaw.Don't ask me for details because i'm thinking.
     
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    Still nobody know why and how Sora and Roxas wielding the same Keyblade at the same time as to do with Xehanort Mamories.
    I mean,Kingdom Key could be related to Xehanort i know,but still,how could Sora use the SAME Keyblade Roxas was using?

    And there's also something that bothers me:
    Only by bringing a keyblade nearby,the keyhole appears,but how Riku could see the Keyhole of Destiny Islands?
     
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    I think there are 2 Kingdom Keys or they can summon the same Key because they are the same so can do that.
    And about Riku, in KH1 Ansem said that the Destiny Islands are connected to the darkness and Riku's heart had a little of darkness, so he can see the darkness, the keyhole...